Speculation: Rumour, Trade, and Free Agent Speculation 2018-19 - Part IV

[Adam da bomb]

Considering how beneficial #25 Stastny was to the Jets push in the last playoffs, I would like to see Alexander Steen come into the roster and make a legitimate push for the cup, as he is near the end of his long career and his team is looking for changes/and cap space. Also taking on his father's heritage uniform and number will undoubtedly make Steen a player born with personal inspiration the likes of which the NHL free agency has never seen before.

St. Louis Blues: Pros And Cons Of Trading Alexander Steen

I thought Steen had fallen off the cliff the way they talk bout him on the main board.

 

[Maukkis]

I mean... his OISH% of 5.2 from this season blurs the view quite a lot. He has been an excellent defenseman at creating offense for years. (also, what the f*** is that penalty differential)

For reference, here's Giordano's isolated impact - the guy who has been Hamilton's primary D partner for the past two years (based on the way people are portraying Hamilton as Giordano's product, anyway).

What Carolina is doing is mindblowing, and I don't think you can put Hamilton at fault. The lack of finishing talent and star power must hurt the team more than you'd think (even though those are not found to be instrumental to success).

 

[Zhamnov10]

Dougie Hamilton is apparently available:



Chevy please

I actually think the jets should be looking at Ferland I feel like his game is a piece that is missing in ours, especially for a playoff run.

 

[Atoyot]

Doubt he makes it to us, but Jordan Schmaltz is on waivers and would be great as a band aid for Buff that could become more. Gives us an actual RHD so we wouldn't need to use Kuli on his off side and then we could have Niku playing on the Moose rather than sitting in the press box.

Hell if it were up to me I'd have Niku and Schmaltz in before Morrow and Chiarot.

 

[almostawake]

Considering how beneficial #25 Stastny was to the Jets push in the last playoffs, I would like to see Alexander Steen come into the roster and make a legitimate push for the cup, as he is near the end of his long career and his team is looking for changes/and cap space. Also taking on his father's heritage uniform and number will undoubtedly make Steen a player born with personal inspiration the likes of which the NHL free agency has never seen before.

St. Louis Blues: Pros And Cons Of Trading Alexander Steen

If he were a rental, sure. Versatile player that can play up and down the lineup in a variety of roles.

But with two more seasons remaining at 5.75M? Blech. No. No way.

 

[JetsFan815]

What do you like about Hamilton? If he has warn out his welcome in Carolina already that can’t be a good sign.

The guy has had exemplary results everywhere he has played. While he may have legitimate off-ice/hockey parent issues, he can help us on the ice. He's also signed for a couple more years and with Trouba likely gone, gives some certainty on the backend.

Also puts us in a position to accept a different kind of package for Trouba (maybe a C or some combination of futures) rather than trying to get a dman back which will reduce the number of suitors and potentially lower the return.

I can deal with Chevy having to deal with a mercurial hockey mom if it means we have two #1 D men on the right side for the next 2 years and can maximize the return on Trouba.

If I were Chevy, I would make a move for Dougie for a 1st, Kulikov/Myers and a prospect.

 

[JetsFan815]

I actually think the jets should be looking at Ferland I feel like his game is a piece that is missing in ours, especially for a playoff run.

While a decent player, he's a pending UFA... I don't want to give up assets for pure rentals this year.

 

[Whileee]

The guy has had exemplary results everywhere he has played. While he may have legitimate off-ice/hockey parent issues, he can help us on the ice. He's also signed for a couple more years and with Trouba likely gone, gives some certainty on the backend.

Also puts us in a position to accept a different kind of package for Trouba (maybe a C or some combination of futures) rather than trying to get a dman back which will reduce the number of suitors and potentially lower the return.

I can deal with Chevy having to deal with a mercurial hockey mom if it means we have two #1 D men on the right side for the next 2 years and can maximize the return on Trouba.

If I were Chevy, I would make a move for Dougie for a 1st, Kulikov/Myers and a prospect.

Hamilton is a UFA only one year after Trouba. So, I'd think of him as a one year rental as a replacement for Trouba, and Trouba is better than Hamilton overall.

 

[10Ducky10]

If I'm Chevy, I'd go after Murray or Muzzin hard. I'd also try to pry Staal from the Wild and re-sign him for 2 years. In my opinion, he would do as well if not better than Stastny did.
I have to admit though, Kuli's play has been really good since he has come back. Myers and Kuli are a great 3rd pairing. I think we could probably re-sign Murray (Morrow goes on waivers) for somewhere around 5 x 4.5m and Staal (send Lemmy down) for 2 x 4.75m.
Trading Trouba this summer will bring back some of the prospects/picks we gave up to get these two.
Morrissey, Murray and Niku/Samberg looks nice on the left side.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

Can't recall the article (maybe Free Press online) but it listed 5 top trade targets for the Jets.
Usual suspects in Stall, Hayes, Muzzin, Duchene...

and (blech) Bouwmeester... ugh...

Unless I'm missing something that sounded like a terrible suggestion and made the rest of the article pretty invalid.
I haven't seen anyone say anything good about him in a while and didn't like what I saw in head to head matches vs the Jets.

 

[204hockey]

duchene would be fun between laine and ehlers/connor the line combos we cld come up with cld be fun also

ehlers duchene wheeler
perrault shief laine
connor little roslovic
copp lowry tanev

 

[JetsFan815]

Hamilton is a UFA only one year after Trouba. So, I'd think of him as a one year rental as a replacement for Trouba, and Trouba is better than Hamilton overall.

That's still 1 year more than Trouba. Hamilton also Canadian and signed long term with Calgary so it seems he has no problem signing in Canada... we would have a shot at re-signing him. Whether Trouba is better or not is debatable but not too relevant as we are not choosing between Trouba and Hamilton. Trouba is most certainly already gone.

 

[voyageur]

If we're scouting Carolina-Ottawa I hope it is for Micheal Ferland.

He would fit on a line with Little and Laine in a way that Connor and Ehlers can't, with the heavy game.

With Ehlers out awhile and Copp a health risk, he would be the type of acquisition who could help us break from the pack.

Connor-Scheif-Wheeler
Ferland-Little-Laine (or inverted)
Tanev-Lowry-Perreault

As our top 9.

If Copp is out we can move Roslovic back into the middle.

But we could have a 4 line team when Ehlers comes back.
Connor-Copp-Roslovic
Or
Connor-Roslovic-Appleton

With room to move players around, for different looks.

I don't know what the asking price is, but I guarantee we have enough assets to make a deal.

 

[voyageur]

Can't recall the article (maybe Free Press online) but it listed 5 top trade targets for the Jets.
Usual suspects in Stall, Hayes, Muzzin, Duchene...

and (blech) Bouwmeester... ugh...

Unless I'm missing something that sounded like a terrible suggestion and made the rest of the article pretty invalid.
I haven't seen anyone say anything good about him in a while and didn't like what I saw in head to head matches vs the Jets.

I'd like Bowmeester. Over Morrow. And he can also play the right side. Price will be right on him. I'll say this about an NHL player having watched a lot of hockey. A player at the end of his career often has an extra spark in the playoffs because it's the twilight of their career.

 

[Daximus]

I'd like Bowmeester. Over Morrow. And he can also play the right side. Price will be right on him. I'll say this about an NHL player having watched a lot of hockey. A player at the end of his career often has an extra spark in the playoffs because it's the twilight of their career.

Bouwmeester is basically done. Blues fans think he should be retired. His skating is basically gone.

 

[voyageur]

Bouwmeester is basically done. Blues fans think he should be retired. His skating is basically gone.

St. Louis has no structure though. And he's insurance for us. If you had some injuries that called Niku into the lineup, he'd be a smart defenseman to pair with him.

 

[Daximus]

St. Louis has no structure though. And he's insurance for us. If you had some injuries that called Niku into the lineup, he'd be a smart defenseman to pair with him.

He used to be. We can find a better player on the waiver wire. He's basically a black hole now. Ask Blues fans. He was on the ice for like 4 of Laine goals in that 5 goal game I think.

 

[voyageur]

Joe Morrow was a black hole for Montreal and he won a playoff round with us. I think Charlie Huddy would use him right. That's just my opinion though, I can't back it up empirically.

 

[JetsFan815]

Joe Morrow was a black hole for Montreal and he won a playoff round with us. I think Charlie Huddy would use him right. That's just my opinion though, I can't back it up empirically.

So by this logic we trade for players who are "black holes" on other teams and hope they turn around when playing for us? Maybe Chevy should consider a trade for Lucic.

 

[voyageur]

So by this logic we trade for players who are "black holes" on other teams and hope they turn around when playing for us? Maybe Chevy should consider a trade for Lucic.

There's hyperbole instead of logic. Good scouting finds good players. At a good price. We have our six defensemen. Bowmeester as a 7 bolsters depth without selling the farm. Would fit with more players than Morrow. He has a helluva of a lot more experience than the players on the farm, and the experience itself is a calming influence on younger players.

 

[Duke749]

St. Louis has no structure though. And he's insurance for us. If you had some injuries that called Niku into the lineup, he'd be a smart defenseman to pair with him.

Ok but if he can’t skate, what does structure even matter?

 

[Maukkis]

Connor for Hamilton+. Carolina gets what they need: someone with a lick of finishing ability. We get a #1 RHD and make our lives significantly easier for the potential Trouba trade. We also get a bit of cap relief, seeing as Connor won't sign for less than six in any conceivable scenario, and Hamilton is signed for 5.75 AAV. The plus is there due to Connor being younger and under team control for longer.

We have the offensive tools needed even without Connor, and Hamilton creates a metric f***ton of chances by himself.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Connor for Hamilton+. Carolina gets what they need: someone with a lick of finishing ability. We get a #1 RHD and make our lives significantly easier for the potential Trouba trade. We also get a bit of cap relief, seeing as Connor won't sign for less than six in any conceivable scenario, and Hamilton is signed for 5.75 AAV. The plus is there due to Connor being younger and under team control for longer.

We have the offensive tools needed even without Connor, and Hamilton creates a metric ****ton of chances by himself.

I'd rather we kept Connor instead of Hamilton.

While I realize you need to give in order to get, I'd be disappointed that that was what we got for Connor.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I think there's a better chance that Laine gets moved over Connor...and that's slim too.

If we were dealing with Carolina, I'd be more interested in some of their other D. They seem better value for money.

 

[Jets]

There's hyperbole instead of logic. Good scouting finds good players. At a good price. We have our six defensemen. Bowmeester as a 7 bolsters depth without selling the farm. Would fit with more players than Morrow. He has a helluva of a lot more experience than the players on the farm, and the experience itself is a calming influence on younger players.

Bouwmeester as our #7 at his cap hit just means we're worse somewhere else to compensate. He's getting paid too much to sit in the press box for us and he's not good enough anymore to crack the lineup.