Rumor: Rumors & Trade Proposals Thread | Post Mortem '23-24 Season: Who Should Stay, Who Should Go & Who Should We Bring In?

[TheNumber4]

Point being he's a 3rd pair RHD and need to be paid accordingly. There's no room to be signing him for ~$2M or whatever he might get elsewhere.

Ideally and it's what I hope for. But Id hate to see a 1M D-man that sucks ass like Benning brought in instead of a 2M Vinny that can actually do the job well though, even if hes overpaid. Guess it comes down to what he'll command on the market, that will ultimately answer this for us.

 

[McDNicks17]

That Walman trade is pretty wild.

I remember when he was getting hyped as the next big thing on D.

 

[TheNumber4]

Jeff Skinner buyout maybe? I'd be all over that as our Top 6 Winger we've been missing. Maybe once bought out, he decides he wants to just go for a Cup on the cheap.

I remember an old Oil Change episode and I think Stu Macgregor was talking about how he's a can't miss scoring machine, but we wouldn't be in range to draft him that year. Maybe a full circlish type of moment if we can find a way to fit him in.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Ideally and it's what I hope for. But Id hate to see a 1M D-man that sucks ass like Benning brought in instead of a 2M Vinny that can actually do the job well though, even if hes overpaid. Guess it comes down to what he'll command on the market, that will ultimately answer this for us.

I mean, Vinny was healthy scratched for the end of the playoffs. Thats not a guy who CAN do it. You can’t pay 2mill for a guy you willingly sat

 

[TheNumber4]

I mean, Vinny was healthy scratched for the end of the playoffs. Thats not a guy who CAN do it. You can’t pay 2mill for a guy you willingly sat

3rd pair guys usually are swap in swap out guys just like bottom 6 forwards. They come and go as the team makeup needs it. Vinny was good throughout the regular season and fine in 2 playoff rounds until Broberg brought something we needed more. I also think he was dealing with injury and that brought his game down.

It’ll depend on the overall make up of the club and how much money is left. But I bet there’s a lot of teams that would take Vinny on the 3rd pair.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mean, Vinny was healthy scratched for the end of the playoffs. Thats not a guy who CAN do it. You can’t pay 2mill for a guy you willingly sat

Even I don't agree with him being sat, this is a solid assessment, as much as I love the kid. Spot on.

Kemp isn't as mean, from all accounts, but he skates well enough and moves the puck better, I suspect he might be able to fill Vinny's role next year.

 

[cruisecity]

Even I don't agree with him being sat, this is a solid assessment, as much as I love the kid. Spot on.

Kemp isn't as mean, from all accounts, but he skates well enough and moves the puck better, I suspect he might be able to fill Vinny's role next year.

Besides the silly grouchy faces there is nothing mean about Desharnais as a player. He's like Stortini level soft. Never throws big hits, never actually does much punishment to the opposition with stick work or after the whistle. He'll just grab on to people.

 

[TheNumber4]

Besides the silly grouchy faces there is nothing mean about Desharnais as a player. He's like Stortini level soft. Never throws big hits, never actually does much punishment to the opposition with stick work or after the whistle. He'll just grab on to people.

He’s plenty mean and plays like it. Gets under forwards skin too doing it. How much that ultimately brings value to us is debateable though. But for mean-ness by D, he does his job.

 

[CycloneSweep]

3rd pair guys usually are swap in swap out guys just like bottom 6 forwards. They come and go as the team makeup needs it. Vinny was good throughout the regular season and fine in 2 playoff rounds until Broberg brought something we needed more. I also think he was dealing with injury and that brought his game down.

It’ll depend on the overall make up of the club and how much money is left. But I bet there’s a lot of teams that would take Vinny on the 3rd pair.

We would too but we can’t afford to pay a player as limited as Vinny 2 mill+.
He is a 6/7 d and that’s like 1.1 mill at MAX.

 

[TheNumber4]

We would too but we can’t afford to pay a player as limited as Vinny 2 mill+.
He is a 6/7 d and that’s like 1.1 mill at MAX.

Hmm possibly. We did get away with 2.75M on the 3rd pair this last year though. If Broberg is replacing Kulak and his dollars, maybe we can afford 2M on the other side this time around. But I really haven't even considered what our Cap looks like yet.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Besides the silly grouchy faces there is nothing mean about Desharnais as a player. He's like Stortini level soft. Never throws big hits, never actually does much punishment to the opposition with stick work or after the whistle. He'll just grab on to people.

Honestly, he's very mean and physical, he's just smart and doesn't take penalties, which for a player with a game like his is kind amazing.

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Vinny at his age and career earnings I fully expect to chase the dollar, it’s the best thing for him.

Saw a poster mention Jeff skinner after a buyout, imo he’s too small and won’t be a factor in the playoffs even if he made it.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Vinny at his age and career earnings I fully expect to chase the dollar, it’s the best thing for him.

Saw a poster mention Jeff skinner after a buyout, imo he’s too small and won’t be a factor in the playoffs even if he made it.

It's just adding veteran depth. This team already has difference makers, Skinner doesn't need to be that, just contribute a bit and make the team deeper overall

 

[5 14 6 1]

Besides the silly grouchy faces there is nothing mean about Desharnais as a player. He's like Stortini level soft. Never throws big hits, never actually does much punishment to the opposition with stick work or after the whistle. He'll just grab on to people.

My biggest issue is his complete inability in the O zone. Doesn't even have a hard slap shot.

I'd still bring him back on a cheap deal as our 6 though

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Vinny at his age and career earnings I fully expect to chase the dollar, it’s the best thing for him.

Saw a poster mention Jeff skinner after a buyout, imo he’s too small and won’t be a factor in the playoffs even if he made it.

Ooh Oilers should be all over that if he gets bought out.

 

[McHelpus]

Daniel Sprong. Can be played up and down the lineup, only 27, could desperately use a one timer weapon other than Draisaitl.

 

[OilerFanInLangley]

lol are you kidding? hes one of the reasons it went to 7 games this series. Losing him would be foolish. Who do you replace him with? reminder Ullmark gone.

Not kidding at all. He's good for a bad goal/game on most nights. The Canucks' 3rd-string goalie was better than Skinner. Let's trade for that guy. His sv% was .898 and Skinner's was .901, but Silovs played against the Oilers pp. Skinner never faced anything like that firing squad.

 

[5 14 6 1]

Not kidding at all. He's good for a bad goal/game on most nights. The Canucks' 3rd-string goalie was better than Skinner. Let's trade for that guy. His sv% was .898 and Skinner's was .901, but Silovs played against the Oilers pp. Skinner never faced anything like that firing squad.

Skinner was fantastic in the playoffs. Not the reason we lost. Do you expect him to be Shesterkin in his sophomore year for 2.6M AAV?

 

[McShogun99]

Jeff Skinner buyout maybe? I'd be all over that as our Top 6 Winger we've been missing. Maybe once bought out, he decides he wants to just go for a Cup on the cheap.

I remember an old Oil Change episode and I think Stu Macgregor was talking about how he's a can't miss scoring machine, but we wouldn't be in range to draft him that year. Maybe a full circlish type of moment if we can find a way to fit him in.

The key to winning a Stanley Cup is having at least 1 Sabre castoff on your team.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Not kidding at all. He's good for a bad goal/game on most nights. The Canucks' 3rd-string goalie was better than Skinner. Let's trade for that guy. His sv% was .898 and Skinner's was .901, but Silovs played against the Oilers pp. Skinner never faced anything like that firing squad.

This is a you problem, not a Skinner problem

 

[McShogun99]

Skinner was fantastic in the playoffs. Not the reason we lost. Do you expect him to be Shesterkin in his sophomore year for 2.6M AAV?

I’ve always said this team wins the Cup with .900 goaltending. Skinner provided that for most of the games but we came a goal short. He was the problem. Our top 6 completely disappeared in the finals minus 8 periods where Mcdavid went supernova.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Daniel Sprong. Can be played up and down the lineup, only 27, could desperately use a one timer weapon other than Draisaitl.

I don't mind looking at him either, I wonder if he gets overpaid by a Chicago or Utah

 

[CycloneSweep]

Hmm possibly. We did get away with 2.75M on the 3rd pair this last year though. If Broberg is replacing Kulak and his dollars, maybe we can afford 2M on the other side this time around. But I really haven't even considered what our Cap looks like yet.

Okay but Kulak is a substantially better player than Desharnais. You can’t pay a guy like Vinny who is a 6/7 d 2mill when you are paying your 4/5 d 9mill

 

[Joey Moss]

How did Nurse manage to get a full NMC in his contract as well? Christ sake.

Good riddance Holland, we should be celebrating Sunday when his contract expires.

The team is handcuffed with Nurse. Going to take some really creative maneuvering to bring back our 3rd line while adding to the rest of the roster.

 

[CycloneSweep]

The way you improve on Skinner is pretty easy. You find a goalie that you are comfortable giving 35 starts to and run a tandem. Skinner CAN be very good. But he often gets overworked. Skinner is also a younger goalie.