Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Y'all Got Any Good Goalies?

[CanadasTeam99]

We're really letting a couple of trolls run our board these days hey.

If you are referring to me, sorry I am not a part of the "defend SKinner at all costs" movement.

I also compliment him when he has good games.....Seasons young. I hope they do not go into the playoffs with no better backup for when Skinner creates any more bad playoff records.

 

[McTonyBrar]

For comparison, we would’ve had to give:

Philp Pickard 2nd and a 5th?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Skinner can't crack a 900 average or a respectable GAA on a top 10 defensive team and people defend him like he is holy. Are we missing something?

 

[McTonyBrar]

These baboons just being bungling again?

 

[VeteranPresence]

For comparison, we would’ve had to give:

Philp Pickard 2nd and a 5th?

That's about right, and it's a second next year, which is worth even less. People acting like this is a king's ransom for a possible solution at the most important position in hockey are out to lunch.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Oh, the meltdown when a mediocre trade happens on here is magical

It is when the biggest weakness on the team doesn't get addressed. A few good games doesn't fix it. This mediocre trade probably does wonders compared to what we got in net lol

like I said, lets see what they do down the road. If they wanna lick Skinners nuts all year go ahead. But go get somebody you think can supplant him once he lays another egg come playoff time.

 

[K1984]

Goalies on shitty teams that are roughly equal or better than Blackwood and possibly available by the deadline, but just likely not yet available because these shitty teams still think they might be able to do something:

- Gibson
- Reimer
- Husso
- Lyon
-Talbot
- Forsberg
- Nedjelkovic
- Vejmelka
- Ingram

For those convinced that Blackwood was the only hope.

What is the "major" trade chip here- the 2nd round pick who won't make an opening night roster until 2030 at the earliest if at all, or the 25 year old rookie with 8 points in 28 games?

Whether you want to believe it or not - a second round pick, and a young, skilled roster player with upside are good trade chips.

What trade chips do we have in abundance that are better exactly? And if we dealt them for a backup goalie which trade chips would we have left over to upgrade on D?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Goalies on shitty teams that are roughly equal or better than Blackwood and possibly available by the deadline, but just likely not yet available because these shitty teams still think they might be able to do something:

- Gibson
- Reimer
- Husso
- Lyon
-Talbot
- Forsberg
- Nedjelkovic
- Vejmelka
- Ingram

For those convinced that Blackwood was the only hope.



Whether you want to believe it or not - a second round pick, and a young, skilled roster player with upside are good trade chips.

What trade chips do we have in abundance that are better exactly?

I would say the only guy on that list who has performed worse than Skinner is Ingram.

 

[TheGingaNinja]

For comparison, we would’ve had to give:

Philp Pickard 2nd and a 5th?

I'd switch out Podz for Philp value wise, but that's pretty close.

 

[Zerotonine]

Pretty sure people are more mad that other teams are atleast trying to improve while we sit around and do fk all

 

[belair]

The problem I see with Blackwood is he playing with 0 pressure. When he was asked to win for new jersey he was no better than what we have.

That was also a thing in junior.

They lost to North Bay in Ekblad's draft year. He crumbled on the road in that series.

Pretty sure people are more mad that other teams are atleast trying to improve while we sit around and do fk all

The wheels aren't exactly falling off here.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I feel skinner, when on his game, is a better goalie than Blackwood. I also feel that Pickard has done everything we’ve asked of an inexpensive back up goalie, and more. All that being said, I feel it wouldn’t hurt to get an upgrade at our backup goalie, just someone who can push Skinner a little more, a guy who might take the over as 1A goalie. I don’t feel Pickard is that guy, but, to be fair, they’ve never given him the chance, so who knows ? Blackwood seems like the guy I could have seen in that role. Unfortunately due to his cap hit and the oilers cap situation, I don’t think he was ever going to work here. Bottom line, could the Oilers use an upgrade in net? Sure , not many teams couldn’t , especially teams paying under 4 million combined for their tandem. Do you the oilers need an upgrade in net? I don’t think so.

 

[harpoon]

Oh, the meltdown when a mediocre trade happens on here is magical

This hardly qualifies as a meltdown. There has been a lot of talk on this board for months about Blackwood because he’s one guy who could potentially fit that 1B designation and was obviously available. The Avs stepped up with an overpay offer (that realistically the Oilers couldn’t match anyway), taking one of the potential targets off the table. I can understand why some fans are disappointed about that.

 

[Oilslick941611]

That was also a thing in junior.

They lost to North Bay in Ekblad's draft year. He crumbled on the road in that series.


The wheels aren't exactly falling off here.

Yup. Some people are acting like we are 29th in the league and not within reach of the division lead.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I feel skinner, when on his game, is a better goalie than Blackwood. I also feel that Pickard has done everything we’ve asked of an inexpensive back up goalie, and more. All that being said, I feel it wouldn’t hurt to get an upgrade at our backup goalie, just someone who can push Skinner a little more, a guy who might take the over as 1A goalie. I don’t feel Pickard is that guy, but, to be fair, they’ve never given him the chance, so who knows ? Blackwood seems like the guy I could have seen in that role. Unfortunately due to his cap hit and the oilers cap situation, I don’t think he was ever going to work here. Bottom line, could the Oilers use an upgrade in net? Sure , not many teams couldn’t , especially teams paying under 4 million combined for their tandem. Do you the oilers need an upgrade in net? I don’t think so.

Lets see how SKinner keeps going here.

2.92GAA / 892%
18 starts - 8 games of 800% and less. Almost 50% of the time sub 900. 9 wins/18 games

- That is definitely something you should want to upgrade on

 

[McFlash97]

Goalies on shitty teams that are roughly equal or better than Blackwood and possibly available by the deadline, but just likely not yet available because these shitty teams still think they might be able to do something:

- Gibson
- Reimer
- Husso
- Lyon
-Talbot
- Forsberg
- Nedjelkovic
- Vejmelka
- Ingram

For those convinced that Blackwood was the only hope.



Whether you want to believe it or not - a second round pick, and a young, skilled roster player with upside are good trade chips.

What trade chips do we have in abundance that are better exactly? And if we dealt them for a backup goalie which trade chips would we have left over to upgrade on D?

Vejmelka all day

 

[TheGingaNinja]

Vejmelka all day

Vejmelka would be my choice form that list as well. Depends on the acquisition cost too though.

 

[McFlash97]

The game against Vegas is textbook example of the type of games the Oilers almost always lose. Niether team giving an inch. Except one team has a goaltender that doesn't allow the winning goal. Skinner is not it folks.

 

[TheNumber4]

Blackwood was the only realistic CHEAP option out there worth a damn.

But is the difference between him and Picard worth what the Avs paid and losing 1.35M in cap space?

Picard (1M) last 2 years:
.909
.892

Blackwood (2.35M) last 2 years:
.899
.911

That Kovalenko kid looked like a pretty good player when we played Colorado. Pretty sure he’d have more value than Philp too. Plus Georgiev as a struggling “starter”, Grier might be trying to roll the dice on. Georgiev has had some hype in his career, Picard has never really had hype. We’re probably underestimating what Colorado paid here.

Givani Smith was waiver fodder (value-less) and the 5ths cancel eachother out.

 

[CupofOil]

Skinner can't crack a 900 average or a respectable GAA on a top 10 defensive team and people defend him like he is holy. Are we missing something?

So you're going to make believe that Skinner didn't have a .913 and a .905 save pct. the last two seasons? Hell, he had a .913 the season before too when he broke in.
So, yeah, you're missing something like a 120 game sample size of something.

 

[TheNumber4]

The game against Vegas is textbook example of the type of games the Oilers almost always lose. Niether team giving an inch. Except one team has a goaltender that doesn't allow the winning goal. Skinner is not it folks.

For what I remember, We did win a 1-0 game against the Kings in the playoffs. And a 2-1 game against Dallas where we were pretty much dominated all game. And we won a 1-0 game in the regular season against Hellbucyk.

So it’s not like it doesn’t happen ever.

If you are referring to me, sorry I am not a part of the "defend SKinner at all costs" movement.

I also compliment him when he has good games.....Seasons young. I hope they do not go into the playoffs with no better backup for when Skinner creates any more bad playoff records.

No one was defending Skinners play when he sucked. There’s plenty shitting on him for having good games though.

 

[K1984]

So you're going to make believe that Skinner didn't have a .913 and a .905 save pct. the last two seasons?
So, yeah, you're missing something like a 110 game sample size of something.

Also, I loathe to do this because I hate cherry picking stats like this, but I think the fact that they occurred at the same time the last two years indicates a certain consistency.

Take out the first 5 Skinner starts over the past two years - what do those numbers look like then?

It isn't excusable and its something he needs to figure out before next year (like half the damn team), but Skinner is more or less incapable of playing at an NHL level in October, but then gets going after that. He's probably .910+ after his scheduled garbage play to start each year.

Still need a redundancy that isn't Pickard in case he randomly craters again at the wrong time, but he plays well after he embarrasses himself to start each year. It isn't an emergency or even a need to replace him.

 

[Faelko]

That's about right, and it's a second next year, which is worth even less. People acting like this is a king's ransom for a possible solution at the most important position in hockey are out to lunch.

The picks are currency, once it’s gone, it’s gone, just have to be careful how you spend it (and if you feel it was worth spending it on Blackwood, that’s totally fair)

 

[TheNumber4]

These baboons just being bungling again?

Overdrive while a bunch of Oilers hating, Leaf ass sniffing clowns, aren’t rumor mongers. This is probably legit.

 

[McTonyBrar]

That's about right, and it's a second next year, which is worth even less. People acting like this is a king's ransom for a possible solution at the most important position in hockey are out to lunch.

I kind of would not have given up Philp...

Also, Kovalenko got moved down the lineup because injured players have come back. The guy is close to becoming a top six winger. I think it would've taken more from our end to get Blackwood

It is when the biggest weakness on the team doesn't get addressed. A few good games doesn't fix it. This mediocre trade probably does wonders compared to what we got in net lol

like I said, lets see what they do down the road. If they wanna lick Skinners nuts all year go ahead. But go get somebody you think can supplant him once he lays another egg come playoff time.

Wow you really do have FOMO don't you? Seems more like you want to lick every goalies nuts except Skinners