Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | What Do Our RFA's Sign For Edition

[Perfect_Drug]

If Bouchard got an offer sheet for a long term deal the Oilers would match anything up to 2 1st's a 2nd and a third. It would force them potentially to move out Foegele and or buyout Campbell, but they would not let him go for less. If they did they would immediately have to spend more assets to replace him.

The danger is a 1 year predatory offer sheet in the $7-8M range. But few teams would consider doing this because of possible payback. Moreover, the only teams that can afford the space right now would be risking a lot since their draft picks will probably be worth a lot. Arizona and Anaheim would be crazy to risk potentially 2 top end picks to get Bouchard. Chicago might be able to get away with it but I don't see them doing so as they have other options to build their team.

Nobody is offer sheeting Bouch for that much unless Eklund comes with him.

He won't replicate his PP success anywhere else and every GM knows that.

 

[Fourier]

Nobody is offer sheeting Bouch for that much unless Eklund comes with him.

He won't replicate his PP success anywhere else and every GM knows that.

Broberg Speed suggested they could trade him now for more than they would get on a successful long term offer sheet. My post was outlining the type of offer it would take for the Oilers to even think about letting him go which I believe would be 2 1st's, 2nd, 3rd. I agree. I don't think there is any real chance that an OS would happen at that level unless Bouchard wants to move on. Outside of Edmonton he is probably getting around $3.5-4M on any competitive team. There is no reason for him to sign such an OS since I am sure the Oilers are in the same ballpark.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

The two of you are just different sides of the same coin...





...in duul's purse.

I have 2 of the 3 on ignore. If I put the 3rd on ignore this thread has only 17 posts in it.

Who is this Duul guy ....? He has a purse...? Well you know ....times have changed.
Your the "the yes man right?"
AHHHH yes the banter of a summer morning where the only hockey played anywhere is in the basement of some kids home in southern saskatchewan.

….aaaand the 3rd goes on ignore.

 

[Canovin]

Broberg Speed suggested they could trade him now for more than they would get on a successful long term offer sheet. My post was outlining the type of offer it would take for the Oilers to even think about letting him go which I believe would be 2 1st's, 2nd, 3rd. I agree. I don't think there is any real chance that an OS would happen at that level unless Bouchard wants to move on. Outside of Edmonton he is probably getting around $3.5-4M on any competitive team. There is no reason for him to sign such an OS since I am sure the Oilers are in the same ballpark.

I'm okay with the Oilers taking the 2 x 1sts, 2nd and 3rd and trading maybe a 3rd round pick for Barrie. Bouchard is really not that good lol

Bouchard is going to be a bigger headache than Nurse once he sign his deal after a bridge

 

[brentashton]

I have 2 of the 3 on ignore. If I put the 3rd on ignore this thread has only 17 posts in it.



….aaaand the 3rd goes on ignore.

Whereas some posters want to add to the conversation with intelligent and cogent factual posts (and thankfully we have many on HFOil), others seem like they want to simply antagonize and stir pots for no purpose except to be a rabble rouser. Zero insight, devoid of fact their posts might as well be in an echo chamber. This thread has become an interesting one to follow because of 3 such posters. I too have added to the ignore list, so it’s like they are barking at shadows, for me. Much better now.

 

[Beerfish]

You don;t develop a young offensive Dman, live with his foibles and errors, hand him the reigns of the pp QB and then jetison him, unless you have MAJORLY screwed up your team planning an your salary cap situation.

It would be brain dead to the extreme to move Bouchard at this point in time.

 

[fuswald]

Wow, very interesting to see a player do this with the intention of sticking around the NHL. Has any other European done that?

Swap for Campbell toss in McLeod

 

[Fourier]

I'm okay with the Oilers taking the 2 x 1sts, 2nd and 3rd and trading maybe a 3rd round pick for Barrie. Bouchard is really not that good lol

Bouchard is going to be a bigger headache than Nurse once he sign his deal after a bridge

The issue though is that no team would offer Bouchard a contract that would trigger 2 x 1sts, 2nd and 3rd which is why an OS is unrealistic right now.

Swap for Campbell toss in McLeod

He already became a UFA and then signed with SJ for $1.1M.

 

[Canovin]

The issue though is that no team would offer Bouchard a contract that would trigger 2 x 1sts, 2nd and 3rd which is why an OS is unrealistic right now.


He already became a UFA and then signed with SJ for $1.1M.

Flames and Jets can.

 

[McDoused]

I brought this up on the Got Yer Back Podcast. Is the solution as simple as just trading Brett Kulak? I know they like him and its a tough move but allows you to hit mutiple birds with one stone.

1. You give Broberg the icetime that he needs as a bottom pairing defenceman.
2. It opens up money so that you can sign Bouchard and McLeod to the deals that they need and maybe even give them some extra term.
3. Have money leftover to accrue cap space and ice a 22 man roster which is needed for TDL acquisitions.
4. You get an asset back from moving Kulak - he has value.

 

[duul]

I brought this up on the Got Yer Back Podcast. Is the solution as simple as just trading Brett Kulak? I know they like him and its a tough move but allows you to hit mutiple birds with one stone.

1. You give Broberg the icetime that he needs as a bottom pairing defenceman.
2. It opens up money so that you can sign Bouchard and McLeod to the deals that they need and maybe even give them some extra term.
3. Have money leftover to accrue cap space and ice a 22 man roster which is needed for TDL acquisitions.
4. You get an asset back from moving Kulak - he has value.

The heroic solution is to move Nurse somehow. Add whatever it takes. Solve all of these solutions listed while also affording yourself enough space to pay our guys and bring in a few different changes to deepen our group at multiple positions.

 

[K1984]

Flames and Jets can.

How?

 

[Slats432]

The scuttlebutt on Oilers Now with Hart Levine from Puckpedia is that they can get up to $5.8M for both but would have to run 21 players. I think that is lots, so Kenny trying to bring that down to allow for another player. $3.9M and $1.9M are the top end I would think, but certainly the agents are going to try to get the best deal for their clients. The Byram and Miller deals help us in this regard since Bouchard based on important criteria is not head and shoulders higher than those guys (TOI being the most important).

The heroic solution is to move Nurse somehow. Add whatever it takes. Solve all of these solutions listed while also affording yourself enough space to pay our guys and bring in a few different changes to deepen our group at multiple positions.

Despite his flaws, the moment the Oilers trade Darnell Nurse, they will wish they had Darnell Nurse.

 

[Fourier]

Flames and Jets can.

The Flames have Weeger and Andersson as well as Tanev on the right. They would have to trade both Lindholm and Hanifin as well. Paying Bouchard almost $9M and giving up those picks just to piss off the Oilers would not seem to be a smart move nor would it be in character for Conroy who so far has not shown that he is being all that aggressive.

Winnipeg would b e risking two very high picks to overpay a defenseman who has yet to fully establish himself. This is definitely not their MO.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

The scuttlebutt on Oilers Now with Hart Levine from Puckpedia is that they can get up to $5.8M for both but would have to run 21 players. I think that is lots, so Kenny trying to bring that down to allow for another player. $3.9M and $1.9M are the top end I would think, but certainly the agents are going to try to get the best deal for their clients. The Byram and Miller deals help us in this regard since Bouchard based on important criteria is not head and shoulders higher than those guys (TOI being the most important).


Despite his flaws, the moment the Oilers trade Darnell Nurse, they will wish they had Darnell Nurse.

Haha that game Nurse was suspended should've shown how much we actually needed him.


About 2.25million overpaid, but he is still a valuable Dman, and would be a prize at $7m AAV.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Market's kind of been set for Bouchard now with the Miller extension, hey?

I'm perfectly fine with Bouchard at two years in the 3.5-4 range. He'll comfortably outplay that contract.

... It'll kick us in the teeth afterward though. He's going to put up 70 points next year.

(and before you're tempted to whine and bitch about Bouchard or call him a powerplay specialist, he has more even strength points than Miller over the last two seasons 61-57)

 

[WaitingForUser]

The scuttlebutt on Oilers Now with Hart Levine from Puckpedia is that they can get up to $5.8M for both but would have to run 21 players. I think that is lots, so Kenny trying to bring that down to allow for another player. $3.9M and $1.9M are the top end I would think, but certainly the agents are going to try to get the best deal for their clients. The Byram and Miller deals help us in this regard since Bouchard based on important criteria is not head and shoulders higher than those guys (TOI being the most important).


Despite his flaws, the moment the Oilers trade Darnell Nurse, they will wish they had Darnell Nurse.

Absolute truth like the Potis and Petrys before him people won’t realize his impact until he is no longer here. Then we will bitch for a decade we can’t get any decent d men to play in Edmonton

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Absolute truth like the Potis and Petrys before him people won’t realize his impact until he is no longer here. Then we will bitch for a decade we can’t get any decent d men to play in Edmonton

I'm still semi convinced trading Kulak is the move. Deal Kulak, play Broberg, grab a depth D like Holden or Harrington and a depth F like Erne/Watson/Khaira and see what happens.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Oskar Sundquivst was a guy I was hoping they’d take a look at. Can play all 3 fwd positions, right shot, big guy, can be physical, can pk.

Went back to STL on a 775k one year deal.

 

[Faelko]

Literally the biggest jerk off around here and that’s saying something because this board has some doozies

It’s basically just trolling at this point...lol

 

[Faelko]

I have 2 of the 3 on ignore. If I put the 3rd on ignore this thread has only 17 posts in it.



….aaaand the 3rd goes on ignore.

Haha, Im all for differing opinions but after the 1000th post saying the exact same thing, it’s definitely ignore time.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Haha that game Nurse was suspended should've shown how much we actually needed him.


About 2.25million overpaid, but he is still a valuable Dman, and would be a prize at $7m AAV.

Did it? The only thing it showed is that Nurse has severe brain cramps at the worst possible time.

We lost when he was gone and we lost when he came back. Like many players on the team he failed to elevate his game when it mattered the most.

 

[subnet]

I have 2 of the 3 on ignore. If I put the 3rd on ignore this thread has only 17 posts in it.



….aaaand the 3rd goes on ignore.

I finally had enough and made some changes to certain settings last week as the noise from a few posters was insane - it's soooo much better now (well there are a few exceptions but I'm trying to be tolerant, lol).

I'm all for being persistent but seeing the same thing over and over and over and over is so tiring.

 

[McAsuno]

I'm still semi convinced trading Kulak is the move. Deal Kulak, play Broberg, grab a depth D like Holden or Harrington and a depth F like Erne/Watson/Khaira and see what happens.

Why Khaira in your opinion?
(Personally fine with Watson or Erne)

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Why Khaira in your opinion?
(Personally fine with Watson or Erne)

I have the suspicion that the Oilers want a guy that can play C or W, has some size, and is good on the draw. Khaira's health is a big question mark though and he really shouldn't be doing any fighting. Erne or Watson are better for that role, if it's what they want.