Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | What Do Our RFA's Sign For Edition

[ChaoticOrange]

That's what I assumed, bub.

You watch a club that couldn't get it done in the postseason over many consecutive seasons now, a club that boasts the two best players in the league.

A club that refuses to make the appropriate corrections. Until the club does make the necessary changes expect the same futility we've seen in the past.

And instead of pointing out the obvious - wingers that couldn’t get it done, Nurse and Campbell contracts holding it down - you’ve chosen to harp on a pair of 23 year olds for some reason. Moar Vets doesn’t mean we win anything, it just means the group gets older, worse, slower, and farther out of their prime. Not what we need. But about what I expect from a guy that thinks that Nick Bjugstad is a huge loss. Dude can’t clear the table after dinner, never mind an opposing player

Some of them cheer "go go go go" but they fail to appreciate the finer aspects of the game.

And some of them run headfirst into concrete walls before posting on here because they hate everyone under 25 - except Broberg, inexplicably. Considering you despise “soft” players I’m shocked you haven’t changed your name yet since the guy literally injured himself cutting steak once

 

[Broberg Speed]

Who thinks Bouchard gets approached with an offer sheet? And yes, I do think he might sign one if he gets offered a long term contract. The possibility has to be acknowledged.

We could "trade him for more now" than the offer sheet compensation.

Holland should be proactive.

And instead of pointing out the obvious - wingers that couldn’t get it done, Nurse and Campbell contracts holding it down - you’ve chosen to harp on a pair of 23 year olds for some reason. Moar Vets doesn’t mean we win anything, it just means the group gets older and slower. Not what we need. But about what I expect from a guy that thinks that Nick Bjugstad is a huge loss. Dude can’t clear the table after dinner, never mind an opposing player

All criticism is welcomed.

Talk all you want about the wingers that couldn’t get it done. Then talk about the Nurse and Campbell contracts.

Just be more interesting.

 

[GOilers88]

Not popular but there is a strong case to move both of our RFAs. McLeod is a speedy player with size and skill that would be attractive to many clubs. Bouchard gives any struggling power play in this league automatic legitimacy.

Oilers need a traditional 3rd-line center that's ready to go 4 rounds in the playoffs who can face off against elite competition and lean on them hard. Here come the arguments about McLeod dominating over Eichel. That's f***ing ridiculous.

The Oilers have the best pp in the league by a long shot if Bouchard is part of it or not. A strong puck moving two-way defender, that can make breakout passes, and specializes in defensive coverage fits the club's requirements more than an elite offensive power play specialist that needs the help of Ekholm to be respectable in his own end.

If you’re dumping these two cheap players based on the potential return they’d bring in with legitimate, big game players, then you’re also attaching cap dumps to them to make the money work.

Why not just trade the cap dumps with other assets and keep both players?

 

[TheBrew]

Who thinks Bouchard gets approached with an offer sheet? And yes, I do think he might sign one if he gets offered a long term contract. The possibility has to be acknowledged.

We could "trade him for more now" than the offer sheet compensation.

Holland should be proactive.

All criticism is welcomed.

Talk all you want about the wingers that couldn’t get it done. Then talk about the Nurse and Campbell contracts.

Just be more interesting.

I think only 9 teams are able to do a offersheet in the 6-10 million a year range at the moment. And all of them except Vegas are rebuilding so I doubt they want to give up their first rounder for Bouchard.

 

[Mr Positive]

Who thinks Bouchard gets approached with an offer sheet? And yes, I do think he might sign one if he gets offered a long term contract. The possibility has to be acknowledged.

We could "trade him for more now" than the offer sheet compensation.

Holland should be proactive.

All criticism is welcomed.

Talk all you want about the wingers that couldn’t get it done. Then talk about the Nurse and Campbell contracts.

Just be more interesting.

I don't think Bouchard gets an offer sheet.

Why? The Maroon situation. He was a 30 goal power forward and didn't get a big contract. GMs saw that he got his numbers with McDavid and Draisaitl and didn't trust he could do it without them. Bouchard had his big step up after getting stapled to Ekholm and getting PP1 with our best players.

I don't believe any team has scouted Bouchard close enough to be really sure that it's all him.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Who thinks Bouchard gets approached with an offer sheet? And yes, I do think he might sign one if he gets offered a long term contract. The possibility has to be acknowledged.

We could "trade him for more now" than the offer sheet compensation.

Holland should be proactive.

All criticism is welcomed.

Talk all you want about the wingers that couldn’t get it done. Then talk about the Nurse and Campbell contracts.

Just be more interesting.

Thanks, but I don’t need your permission to say whatever I want.

You haven’t been interesting since the day you gambolled on in here so I’m returning your irrational energy. You have the weirdest targets I’ve ever seen.

 

[McShogun99]

I don't think Bouchard gets an offer sheet.

Why? The Maroon situation. He was a 30 goal power forward and didn't get a big contract. GMs saw that he got his numbers with McDavid and Draisaitl and didn't trust he could do it without them. Bouchard had his big step up after getting stapled to Ekholm and getting PP1 with our best players.

I don't believe any team has scouted Bouchard close enough to be really sure that it's all him.

Bouchard will probably get an extra 20 points a season playing on the Oilers top PP unit compared to any other team in the league. Plus not many teams with the cap space to offer sheet him have anywhere close to the PP that Edmonton does. I guess it’s always a possibility but probably a low one.

 

[Broberg Speed]

If you’re dumping these two cheap players based on the potential return they’d bring in with legitimate, big game players, then you’re also attaching cap dumps to them to make the money work.

Why not just trade the cap dumps with other assets and keep both players?

Cheap? Not so much for much longer. And both are ransoming the club's remaining available cap space.

Thanks, but I don’t need your permission to say whatever I want.

You haven’t been interesting since the day you gambolled on in here so I’m returning your irrational energy. You have the weirdest targets I’ve ever seen.

Good for you, that's showing initiative.

I think only 9 teams are able to do a offersheet in the 6-10 million a year range at the moment. And all of them except Vegas are rebuilding so I doubt they want to give up their first rounder for Bouchard.

Actually there are 16 teams with the required draft picks to offer sheet Bouchard at $6,435,186. There are only 32 teams in the league. If you classify the Oilers as "also in the race to sign Bouchard" that's 53% of the teams that could theoretical sign Bouchard one way or another.

A 6.435M offer sheet only nets the Oilers 1 first round pick and 1 third round pick as compensation if the Oilers are unable or unwilling to match. If Bouchard signed a 6 year deal for $6,435,186 he would make 38.6M then be an UFA at the age of 29.

The Oilers could trade Bouchard to 31 other teams and I believe many of them would be willing to give up a boatload.

The proactive GM may seize the day.

 

[TheBrew]

Cheap? Not so much for much longer. And both are ransoming the club's remaining available cap space.

Good for you, that's showing initiative.

Actually there are 16 teams with the required draft picks to offer sheet Bouchard at $6,435,186. There are only 32 teams in the league. If you classify the Oilers as "also in the race to sign Bouchard" that's 53% of the teams that could theoretical sign Bouchard one way or another.

A 6.435M offer sheet only nets the Oilers 1 first round pick and 1 third round pick as compensation if the Oilers are unable or unwilling to match. If Bouchard signed a 6 year deal for $6,435,186 he would make 38.6M then be an UFA at the age of 29.

The Oilers could trade Bouchard to 31 other teams and I believe many of them would be willing to give up a boatload.

The proactive GM may seize the day.

And which of the the 16 teams have the cap space or would be willing to give up their first and third for Bouchard at 6,435,186?
Bouchard must know it’s in his best interest to play the next two years on the best PP and paired with Ekholm.

 

[Hockeylife2018]

Cheap? Not so much for much longer. And both are ransoming the club's remaining available cap space.

Good for you, that's showing initiative.

Actually there are 16 teams with the required draft picks to offer sheet Bouchard at $6,435,186. There are only 32 teams in the league. If you classify the Oilers as "also in the race to sign Bouchard" that's 53% of the teams that could theoretical sign Bouchard one way or another.

A 6.435M offer sheet only nets the Oilers 1 first round pick and 1 third round pick as compensation if the Oilers are unable or unwilling to match. If Bouchard signed a 6 year deal for $6,435,186 he would make 38.6M then be an UFA at the age of 29.

The Oilers could trade Bouchard to 31 other teams and I believe many of them would be willing to give up a boatload.

The proactive GM may seize the day.

Of those 16 teams, how many have the required cap space?

Can't see many teams lines up to offer sheet, especially if it involves giving up assets for the offer sheet, and assets to make moves for the required cap

 

[Broberg Speed]

Me every time I see Broberg Speed post concerning Bouchard or McLeod:

so long

 

[CupofOil]

Well, the Byram and Miller contracts pretty much set the market for the Buochard contract. I'd guess it'll be something like 2 years $3.8m or so. I think 1 year is off the table because they can't afford to pay him the season after with Brown's bonuses on the books.

 

[Broberg Speed]

And which of the the 16 teams have the cap space or would be willing to give up their first and third for Bouchard at 6,435,186?
Bouchard must know it’s in his best interest to play the next two years on the best PP and paired with Ekholm.

The classic Bouchard betting on himself vs Bouchard betting on McDrai and Ekholm conundrum.

Of those 16 teams, how many have the required cap space?

Can't see many teams lines up to offer sheet, especially if it involves giving up assets for the offer sheet, and assets to make moves for the required cap

I'm not sure but perhaps Holland ends up learning the hard way from one of his rivals on how a GM goes about dumping salary quickly in order to scoop up a player.

 

[Seanaconda]

Cheap? Not so much for much longer. And both are ransoming the club's remaining available cap space.

Good for you, that's showing initiative.

Actually there are 16 teams with the required draft picks to offer sheet Bouchard at $6,435,186. There are only 32 teams in the league. If you classify the Oilers as "also in the race to sign Bouchard" that's 53% of the teams that could theoretical sign Bouchard one way or another.

A 6.435M offer sheet only nets the Oilers 1 first round pick and 1 third round pick as compensation if the Oilers are unable or unwilling to match. If Bouchard signed a 6 year deal for $6,435,186 he would make 38.6M then be an UFA at the age of 29.

The Oilers could trade Bouchard to 31 other teams and I believe many of them would be willing to give up a boatload.

The proactive GM may seize the day.

I think they match that and make room , in the end I think that extention would be a steal

 

[Broberg Speed]

I think they match that and make room , in the end I think that extention would be a steal

Then cross your fingers Bouchard signs an offer sheet. I'm not doing that.

There are other possible combinations of money and term an offer sheet could be set at. A 6 year 38.6M offer sheet with the possibility of becoming UFA at the age of 29... I thought might be appealing to Bouchard and his representation. And the club acquiring Bouchard only surrenders a 1st and a 3rd as compensation.

 

[McHelpus]

Oilers should go for Mason Shaw if we still need a center, he would probably be our full time 4th line center. He was not qualified by Minnesota for some reason? He is also from Lloydminster so I could see him taking a minimum deal with us.

 

[McDrai]

I’d be shocked if anything gets done before August 4. Fully expecting McLeod to go to arbitration. Until then, Dog Days of summer

 

[Dr Awesome]

3.85 per for Bouchadd
1.7 per for McLeod

 

[Cerebral]

Oilers should go for Mason Shaw if we still need a center, he would probably be our full time 4th line center. He was not qualified by Minnesota for some reason? He is also from Lloydminster so I could see him taking a minimum deal with us.

He's definitely an interesting player given the local angle and his defensive abilities. This one article makes him out to be one of the best PK'ers in the entire league:

Why Mason Shaw's Injury Was A Bigger Blow Than Wild Could Have Imagined

Who would have thought the Minnesota Wild’s playoff hopes would have been so affected by the loss of a fourth-line winger? When grinder Mason Shaw tore the ACL in his right knee earlier this month, there was plenty of disappointment for the fan favorite who had already overcome so much. It was th...

hockeywilderness.com

However, he only took 28 faceoffs last season so I suspect he was primarily playing the wing in Minnesota.

 

[McHelpus]

He's definitely an interesting player given the local angle and his defensive abilities. This one article makes him out to be one of the best PK'ers in the entire league:

Why Mason Shaw's Injury Was A Bigger Blow Than Wild Could Have Imagined

Who would have thought the Minnesota Wild’s playoff hopes would have been so affected by the loss of a fourth-line winger? When grinder Mason Shaw tore the ACL in his right knee earlier this month, there was plenty of disappointment for the fan favorite who had already overcome so much. It was th...

hockeywilderness.com

However, he only took 28 faceoffs last season so I suspect he was primarily playing the wing in Minnesota.

Ok now I see why Minnesota didn't qualify him. Not only did he tear his ACL, but it's the 4th time hes had a torn ACL?! That is such bad luck.

 

[CookiesAndMilk]

Holy F. I agree with two successive Bro Speed posts.

The two of you are just different sides of the same coin...





...in duul's purse.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

lol did someone suggest Bouchard would sign long term for under $6.5m With the cap going up as much as it will be over the next couple years? Maybe if this was 2019...

 

[Paralyzer008]

If you look at who has cap space - and what it'd take to offer sheet Bouchard successfully - once the Kraken did re-sign Will Borgen, they were the last team who could maybe afford it and now they can't.

He's not getting offer sheeted.

 

[Fourier]

If Bouchard got an offer sheet for a long term deal the Oilers would match anything up to 2 1st's a 2nd and a third. It would force them potentially to move out Foegele and or buyout Campbell, but they would not let him go for less. If they did they would immediately have to spend more assets to replace him.

The danger is a 1 year predatory offer sheet in the $7-8M range. But few teams would consider doing this because of possible payback. Moreover, the only teams that can afford the space right now would be risking a lot since their draft picks will probably be worth a lot. Arizona and Anaheim would be crazy to risk potentially 2 top end picks to get Bouchard. Chicago might be able to get away with it but I don't see them doing so as they have other options to build their team.

 

[Anarchism]

The two of you are just different sides of the same coin...





...in duul's purse.

Who is this Duul guy ....? He has a purse...? Well you know ....times have changed.
Your the "the yes man right?"
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