Post-Game Talk: Round 2, Game 2: Rongos vs The Streak

[BroadwayBlues]

This coach is VERY slow with adjustments.

 

[slipknottin]

This coach is VERY slow with adjustments.

There were no adjustments to be made that would fix the PP and the turnovers

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Yea. It's the NHL playoffs. This happens every year. Maybe instead of always being on the losing end of it and whining about it the Rangers should build a team and gameplan that can take advantage of it. Just a thought. Even everyone's favorite "skill" model the DRW were masters at this.

That's kind of hard considering they get called for everything. Case and point, Dorsett and Girardi in the third.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

There were no adjustments to be made that would fix the PP and the turnovers

Its time to get desperate with the powerplay. Put some guys out there that will work hard and keep it simple. Park Boyle's ass in front of the net and funnel pucks there.

 

[silverfish]

Yeah, that DD penalty certainly looked like a flop. I'm only saying that because I never saw a replay where Kunitz's head hit the glass, and he sure acted like it did.

That was a flop. I thought Bortuzzo flopped when Nash "cross-checked" him, too.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Yeah, that DD penalty certainly looked like a flop. I'm only saying that because I never saw a replay where Kunitz's head hit the glass, and he sure acted like it did.

That was a flop. I thought Bortuzzo flopped when Nash "cross-checked" him, too.

If it was during the play, Im pretty sure it would've been overlooked. Dorsett's idiocy was at the forefront because it was after the whistle.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Missing tonight's game because I'll be working. Can the second half of the GDT be called "I'm missing Jack Bauer for this?", same way last night was Game of Thrones. Please and thank you.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

That's kind of hard considering they get called for everything. Case and point, Dorsett and Girardi in the third.

They get called for everything because they commit very little. Rangers stay disciplined but no matter what they will be on the PK 2-4 times a game. It may seem illogical and foolish. But there is no way they are going to call every single pick play or scrum against Pitt. Saw the same against Philly. Those teams commit 1+ per shift knowing that the refs don't want to keep one team shorthanded for 30 min unless they are McSorely'ing their opponents.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

They get called for everything because they commit very little. Rangers stay disciplined but no matter what they will be on the PK 2-4 times a game. It may seem illogical and foolish. But there is no way they are going to call every single pick play or scrum against Pitt. Saw the same against Philly. Those teams commit 1+ per shift knowing that the refs don't want to keep one team shorthanded for 30 min unless they are McSorely'ing their opponents.

I agree 100%. Also, how many embellishment calls went against the Rangers last series?

 

[Whiplash27]

Teams will continue to get away with anything they want against the Rangers. When you're playing against a team who never scores on the powerplay, there's no fear in taking penalties.

If you played against the 1994 Rangers there would be a fear of taking a penalty, because if you did there's a good chance you're getting a goal scored against you.

This powerplay is completely pathetic and will be the downfall of this team if it doesn't get better.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Yeah, that DD penalty certainly looked like a flop. I'm only saying that because I never saw a replay where Kunitz's head hit the glass, and he sure acted like it did.

That was a flop. I thought Bortuzzo flopped when Nash "cross-checked" him, too.

This! The refs weren't gonna call the bortuzzo cross check on St. Louis until Nash cross checked him! It gets to a point where the game becomes a farce and most casual fans stop watching.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Teams will continue to get away with anything they want against the Rangers. When you're playing against a team who never scores on the powerplay, there's no fear in taking penalties.

If you played against the 1994 Rangers there would be a fear of taking a penalty, because if you did there's a good chance you're getting a goal scored against you.

This powerplay is completely pathetic and will be the downfall of this team if it doesn't get better.

And I agree with this as well. However, the lack of calls would otherwise factor in to the opponents level of fatigue! Not just scoring on a PP.

 

[silverfish]

This powerplay is completely pathetic and will be the downfall of this team if it doesn't get better.

Well it's a good thing they have plenty of time to practice new PP strategies

 

[True Blue]

There were no adjustments to be made that would fix the PP and the turnovers

Then that is a very, very bad fact. The PP is ALL about coaching.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Then that is a very, very bad fact. The PP is ALL about coaching.

Its also about skill and work ethic. A lot of this falls on the players. They dont seem to want to work to retrieve the puck on the PP.

This team has been having all kinds of problems when the opposition stacks the blue line and clogs the middle of the ice.

 

[True Blue]

And I agree with this as well. However, the lack of calls would otherwise factor in to the opponents level of fatigue! Not just scoring on a PP.

Maybe if the team showed up to play, they could generate some calls their way.

On the long, long list of what is not working, the refereeing is far down.

 

[True Blue]

Its also about skill and work ethic. A lot of this falls on the players. They dont seem to want to work to retrieve the puck on the PP.

This team has been having all kinds of problems when the opposition stacks the blue line and clogs the middle of the ice.

Work ethic, yes. Skill not so much. They are generating ZERO offense if the rush does not work. Why? Because they do not want to get their noses dirty. It is one thing to loose the battles because the other team just imposes their wills (Boston last year). It is entirely another thing to loose the battles because the compete level is just not there.

Both the Flyers and Pens gameplan is to take away the rush by not allowing free access across the blue line. The way to combat that is to chip the puck past them or....gasp....dump the puck. Off course both courses of action require that you then actually have to go and retrieve the puck, which is where the problems begin to arise. The Rangers have shown no interest in going into a corner. As such, their opponents have a shorter ice to skate than they do. The Rangers get separated from the puck and the rush is on.

To me, AV has to begin to answer questions. Lack of battle level and horrendous PP is all about him.

 

[McRanger]

The crappy powerplay is a product of the teams overall play. The team hasn't been able to string together two crisp passes in a row at even strength either. Their two shot options seem to be goalies chest or wide.

The team has also relearned some of its old bad habits. Players aren't moving their feet enough and their transition game is taking a big hit. They are futzing with the puck too much in their own zone, making pointless passes in the wrong direction when the best thing to do is just clear the zone, or forcing a bad clear when they have time to make a play. They are also back to the "I have the puck on my stick so I must swing the puck around behind the goal even though no one is there" mentality. Also the two forechecking forwards are not receiving enough support from the high forward or the defense. The penguins drop 5 guys down on defense so there is no way the two Ranger forwards are going to come away with the puck. All it does is guarantee a turnover and an easy breakout for the opposition.

Some of this is just fatigue from this idiotic schedule. But most of it is simple execution.

 

[Blueshirt Special]

If we can get a win tonight, I think we have a real good chance of advancing, though I think it will go 7 games. (I said we'd win in 6 befoer the series started)

But it will be tough to get the win tonight. I think our D is gassed and thay haven't had enoough time to recover. Hank is looking good so it could happen.

If we lose tonight, then of course Wed becomes the dreaded "must win".

 

[McRanger]

The Penguins also get away with bloody murder when it comes to interference. One of the reasons they can stand up so effectively at their blueline is that they have no problem interfering with a player who chips the puck past the defense. It's one thing to cut across a transitioning player to make him change directions and lose speed, but on some of these plays they look like the late '90's Devils.

Since the refs aren't interesting in calling it, The Rangers need to start making plays just inside the blueline, preferably without going offside.

Of course that would require the Rangers to use their speed and make a strong and accurate pass...

 

[True Blue]

But it will be tough to get the win tonight. I think our D is gassed and thay haven't had enoough time to recover.

Pens have played only one less game.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

The Penguins also get away with bloody murder when it comes to interference. One of the reasons they can stand up so effectively at their blueline is that they have no problem interfering with a player who chips the puck past the defense. It's one thing to cut across a transitioning player to make him change directions and lose speed, but on some of these plays they look like the late '90's Devils.

Since the refs aren't interesting in calling it, The Rangers need to start making plays just inside the blueline, preferably without going offside.

Of course that would require the Rangers to use their speed and make a strong and accurate pass...

This is pretty much what I've been railing about this morning.

 

[chosen]

So much of the usual whining about the refs and scheduling and infractions.

Sometimes it is simple. The other team outplayed the Rangers. Get over it. They have more offensive talent and they are more physical. One loss and some of you cry like children.

Anyone complaining about effort is nuts.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I'd shift Carcillo to the 4th line tonight, scratch Dorsett, put Miller or Fast on the 3rd line with Richards, and scratch J. Moore in place of Diaz.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

So much of the usual whining about the refs and scheduling and infractions.

Sometimes it is simple. The other team outplayed the Rangers. Get over it. They have more offensive talent and they are more physical. One loss and some of you cry like children.

Anyone complaining about effort is nuts.

Justin St. Pierre, is that you? Please tell me how the refs are infallible. Aren't you the one who always makes the point that the refs are human beings that make mistakes? Are these same human beings free from any and all biases?