Prospect Info: Round 1, Pick 5: Cutter Gauthier, LW, USNTDP -> Boston College

[GKJ]

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[Magua]

 

[GKJ]

I am not abjectly against it, but my concern lays more in the processes when these guys are getting here at the pro-level. You can like or dislike any prospect or player you want, if that is your main concern with the organization, and it is real, it doesn't really matter, you fundamentally believe what they does not work (or at the very least, do not maximize the potential of their players), thus only truly special players are able to outrun that. So, guys like Gauthier, could still be good picks who are thus doomed regardless.

 

[sobrien]

Boy HF hasn't changed. Curmudgeon central

 

[Adtar02]

My money is on nazar being the better forward. Just seems to see the ice better

 

[Adtar02]

Oh because all the "typical Flyers!" and "lol Fletcher!" comments are so insightful. He's a kid that most agree was taken in the right range and has a projection similar to the guys selected around him. I'm not going to pontificate on the kid's abilities and pretend like I am an expert in scouting like everyone else does here who apparently has enough time not only to read about all the picks but have personally watched enough tape on them to make decisions about their worthiness of this selection or disagree with scouting reports. I mean honestly, what is the complaint? He wasn't off the board. His projections are second liner maybe with top line potential, and his floor is a safe bet to reach the NHL. According to scouting reports (e.g., not random posters on HFBoards), he can skate, is good with the puck, and has a good shot.

If your problem with the pick is you wanted someone else, join the club. I wanted Nazar or a trade back. But don't act like this is some laughable pick because you don't like it because of some unspecified reason related (or maybe a specified reason like someone else said he isn't a good skater despite the scouting reports saying he is).

Nazar was the right pick. Wanted Zegras back in his draft but taken one spot ahead.

Wouldn’t have minded the the rd but nazar just scream Uber talented skilled and great vision

 

[Adtar02]

I'm not ignoring that. They are making criticisms and acting like there were other picks that were clearly better when there isn't. He's a scorer who can skate. Yes, I would have loved it if there was a sure-fire Center that could have been pick here or a franchise defenseman here...but that wasn't a reality in this draft. It sucks but that isn't Fletcher's fault. Fletcher is f***ing terrible. Worst GM in the league. I am still throwing up because of the TDA trade. But there is nothing wrong with this pick.

If Gauthier isn't a top five pick, who was in this draft? An injury history defenseman that at best is a #2 but is more likely a second pair guy? Look at the forwards that went after him and tell me which one is clearly better? Not who is the guy you wanted or who is arguably better...who is clearly better? Who did they pass on that is so much better that makes this pick so bad? The answer is clear: no one! And that would be the case for pretty much if they took anyone that went 6-15 too! This is a weak draft class. Any player that was available is not what you want in a top 5 pick.

I think nazar is clearly better and much higher ceiling. Elite ceiling not maybe will become a first liner

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I wonder where Jiricek was on the Flyers board

 

[HexyClarke]

Im not sure why this is considered a low ceiling pick. This kid is considered a tremendous athlete who is ambidextrous. And if true, can drive a golf ball 280 yards both lefty and righty. That’s an athlete with upside.

 

[Bigkarl]

Im not sure why this is considered a low ceiling pick. This kid is considered a tremendous athlete who is ambidextrous. And if true, can drive a golf ball 280 yards both lefty and righty. That’s an athlete with upside.

WTF

 

[HexyClarke]

Your comment means? It was so articulate it went right over my head.

 

[Tripod]

OH shit.....a burner

 

[HexyClarke]

OH shit.....a burner

Is this about my comment on the pick?

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Im not sure why this is considered a low ceiling pick. This kid is considered a tremendous athlete who is ambidextrous. And if true, can drive a golf ball 280 yards both lefty and righty. That’s an athlete with upside.

Ambidextrous? Well then, that changes everything

 

[HexyClarke]

No talent involved in that? And driving a ball 280 yards from both sides of the plate is pretty damn impressive. Just a question, have you ever done anything atheletic in your life? Regarding hand-eye coordination?

 

[BringBackHakstol]

When the flyers face a lefty goalie we can have cutter play with his righty stick

 

[HexyClarke]

When the flyers face a lefty goalie we can have cutter play with his righty stick

you are right not impressive at all. Ever do anything remotely athletic?

 

[Beef Invictus]

No talent involved in that? And driving a ball 280 yards from both sides of the plate is pretty damn impressive. Just a question, have you ever done anything atheletic in your life? Regarding hand-eye coordination?

Lots of prospects are highly gifted athletes, and that's true across all sports. There's more to success than athletic talent at the highest levels.

If anything, it should be concerning that he's possibly just gotten by so far on being a better athlete and borderline over-ager. Fletcher never gravitates towards players with brainpower.

 

[HexyClarke]

Lots of prospects are highly gifted athletes across all sports. There's more to success than athletic talent at the highest levels.

If anything, it should be concerning that he's gotten by so far on being a better athlete and borderline over-ager.

Over ager? The guy after him is older by a couple months. The guy before the same age. Solid critique!

 

[renberg]

I was hoping for Jiricek since quality RHDs are a premium right now. However Gauthier isn't a shabby player. Speed, size and a shot are good qualities. Watching him play on the USDT where he had Cooley at center, I don't know if Cooley made him look good with set ups or if Gauthier's assets were enough to draw the defense to him and away from Cooley. which gave Cooley more time to work the play.
The major question is whether he is a LW masquerading at center or a decent center by itself. He's been faulted for not seeing more of the ice. As a wing, usually they only see their half of the ice. We'll find out pretty quickly in the fall if he can expand his vision at BC where he'll be at center ice.

 

[TheKingPin]

WTF

I think he’s being sarcastic. His post is what they had to say about Cutter on ESPN.

 

[Rebels57]

Boy HF hasn't changed. Curmudgeon central

Yeah, being a fan of this team the past decade has given everyone reason to be happy-go-lucky and hopeful.

 

[TheKingPin]

I personally think it’s fine to not lock in a top line tawny in a draft like this. That is still the goal and likely a few teams did it after our pick, but I’m happy if he’s a good 2C level. It’s not like he’s a plodding big ass player that needs a lot of space to get a shot off or time to get open. Hes pretty quick and competes well with an obviously high end shot. I think he may be a big guy with a lot of Flyer type feel, but also fast so not all bad. They are allergic to guys like Cooley so it’s at best a work in progress, but a bad draft like this and it’s fine if we got a 2C. Missing out on a 2nd and looking for a dman there was the biggest mistake to me.

 

[HexyClarke]

I was hoping for Jiricek since quality RHDs are a premium right now. However Gauthier isn't a shabby player. Speed, size and a shot are good qualities. Watching him play on the USDT where he had Cooley at center, I don't know if Cooley made him look good with set ups or if Gauthier's assets were enough to draw the defense to him and away from Cooley. which gave Cooley more time to work the play.
The major question is whether he is a LW masquerading at center or a decent center by itself. He's been faulted for not seeing more of the ice. As a wing, usually they only see their half of the ice. We'll find out pretty quickly in the fall if he can expand his vision at BC where he'll be at center ice.

I was stuck between the 2 at that point also. I’m just commenting on the parrots stating it was a typical flyer pick, big, slow, safe, no skill. I pointed out, what to me proves being skillfully and athletic. But some people might not have any athletic ability whatsoever so they can’t comprehend the point.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Over ager? The guy after him is older by a couple months. The guy before the same age. Solid critique!

In the US system, the age cutoff works so that he's older than almost everyone around in his year, and he's at a developmental age where that can matter a lot. January birthdays tend to underperform relative to draft position.

So yes. It is a solid critique, thanks.

 

[HexyClarke]

In the US system, the age cutoff works so that he's older than almost everyone around in his year, and he's at a developmental age where that can matter a lot. January birthdays tend to underperform relative to draft position.

So yes. It is a solid critique, thanks.

So when these guys play internationally they play at different ages? Seems unfair.