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Round 1 Game 3 Sharks @ Kings: Kings Lose 4-3; Sharks Lead series 3-0

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kingsholygrail said:
Name the goals.
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How about you break down all the goals that aren't his fault? Bottom line is he is not making the saves he did in 2012 and 2013 up until the WCF.

His regular season numbers dipped as well.

I love the guy! I'm not calling for him to be shipped out; however, I'm going to say he's playing below his standards when he does so.

Now is one of those times. Even his #1 Fan Sutter believes so.

**** happens. Whatever. This guy helped blow the game against SJ in 2011 and then won the Cup the next season. Chill out.
 
KingKopitar11 said:
The only player who's slow on defense for Boston is Chara...think about it...the second slowest is Johnny Boychuk.
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McQuaid (when healthy) is slower than both. Meszaros makes Muzzin look like Duncan Keith. I actually love the way Boston uses Krug. That's precisely how I hoped Hickey would be used on the Kings blueline.
 
17 goals allowed in 3 games... has that sunk in yet? From the Jennings Trophy as the team that allowed the least amount of goals to the team that has the worst defense in the playoffs.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
17 goals allowed in 3 games... has that sunk in yet? From the Jennings Trophy as the team that allowed the least amount of goals to the team that has the worst defense in the playoffs.
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The Kings didn't even have a stretch like that in January playing Garbage hockey.

Kudos to the Sharks, they want this more(and it shows).
 
I don't think anyone is pinning the performance on one player, I just think some people think that some players have no fault in the way this went. As a whole, this team has smelled worse than port a potty at chili festival.
 
damacles1156 said:
The Kings didn't even have a stretch like that in January playing Garbage hockey.

Kudos to the Sharks, they want this more(and it shows).
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You know what's funny, if they do win the cup. The amount of complacency their team has shown in the past is going to be so prevalent during their hangover year and years after.

Right now Marleau and Thornton are busting ass for the cherry on the top for their careers
 
Too much pressure on Quick and the Kings defense. 3 goals scored and a 1 goal lead in the third period used to be automatic wins for the Kings. They are not scoring enough and when they do score it takes such very hard work to accomplish scoring the goal. Kings really need some better top six playmaking forwards besides Kopitar. Sadly, I feel this will be a sweep for the Sharks. This game 3 was an absolute, critical game to win and they came up short in OT.
 
DryIslandBartender said:
Dishing out hits and getting points. Kopitar is the least of the teams problems.
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He has 3 assists, 0 goals and is a -3. Not exactly playing like he's a top Selke candidate. Tonight he had a FO% of a mere 44.

BigKing said:
How about you break down all the goals that aren't his fault? Bottom line is he is not making the saves he did in 2012 and 2013 up until the WCF.

His regular season numbers dipped as well.

I love the guy! I'm not calling for him to be shipped out; however, I'm going to say he's playing below his standards when he does so.

Now is one of those times. Even his #1 Fan Sutter believes so.

**** happens. Whatever. This guy helped blow the game against SJ in 2011 and then won the Cup the next season. Chill out.
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Sticking Jones out there doesn't lower the goals against. At all. If so many of these goals are easily savable, then putting Jones in should clearly resolve the problems the Kings are facing against the Sharks, but it won't because the goalie position isn't a problem for the Kings in this series.
 
Kopitar has been ok, not great but ok...

Sadly though this will be the second playoff's in a row for Kopitar that he is just kinda there.

Not an impact.

Stoll sadly was the best center on the ice tonight.

Again the Kings were doomed if Kopitar/Drew/Quick had bad games.

Well that has happened.

Drew is hurt and only probably 50% Quick is Human after all, Kopitar can only do so much.

Done and done.
 
I think everyone should look at the last page or so, 50 posts or so, and realize that so many different posters have named so many different players from Quick/Brown/Kopitar/Richards to Bernier and ****ing Hickey that this is a team-wide problem and not a scapegoat problem.
 
Brad Doty said:
I think everyone should look at the last page or so, 50 posts or so, and realize that so many different posters have named so many different players from Quick/Brown/Kopitar/Richards to Bernier and ****ing Hickey that this is a team-wide problem and not a scapegoat problem.
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Right on through the coaching staff....I want Davis Payne fired.

What exactly does Payne do ?

Jamie Kompon at least had the Forwards ready to play.

Yes Kompon's PP sucks, but he had the Kings forwards ready for Breakouts ETC.
 
damacles1156 said:
Kopitar has been ok, not great but ok...

Sadly though this will be the second playoff's in a row for Kopitar that he is just kinda there.

Not an impact.
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It will also be the second year in a row the bottom six has been a highly exploitable part of the Kings game.

I'm not laying this at the feet of Kopitar or Quick or even Richards.

This is a collective problem for the team. When you don't have threats spread out through your lineup, your top guys aren't going to do ****.

When your defense can't manage the puck in their own end or the neutral zone, your top guys aren't going to do ****.

And yes when you give up bad goals, you're not helping anyone. Most of Quick's goals against have come on breaks and out numbered attacks. Could he have saved a few of those? Probably, but they would have been exceptional saves and Quick has had plenty of exceptional saves in this series. We just don't remember them because the results haven't been there.

His biggest **** goal was the first of the series, but he always gives up at least one of those in a series.
 
kingsholygrail said:
It will also be the second year in a row the bottom six has been a highly exploitable part of the Kings game.

I'm not laying this at the feet of Kopitar or Quick or even Richards.

This is a collective problem for the team. When you don't have threats spread out through your lineup, your top guys aren't going to do ****.

When your defense can't manage the puck in their own end or the neutral zone, your top guys aren't going to do ****.

And yes when you give up bad goals, you're not helping anyone. Most of Quick's goals against have come on breaks and out numbered attacks. Could he have saved a few of those? Probably, but they would have been exceptional saves and Quick has had plenty of exceptional saves in this series. We just don't remember them because the results haven't been there.

His biggest **** goal was the first of the series, but he always gives up at least one of those in a series.
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I agree.

Which is why I just hate the Lewis/Clifford signing's.

I love his effort....But man the Bottom six has to be more productive.

And Lewis stops that from happening.

Over 82 games. Lewis/Clifford didn't even make 25 points COMBINED.

That is just really bad. You can't pay over 2 million dollars in cap money for that.
 
Kopitar is PPG and the only center on the right side of the advanced statistics. Kopitar is the LAST player that should be criticized in this series, and he's been the only one that could handle any of SJ's four lines.

The bottom line on Quick is that he could have played better, obviously. The Sharks ran him, chirped him, and the refs swallowing their whistles on all of that got in his head. Quick was beaten mentally this series. It is what it is.

If you really break down SJ's goals, most of them have come off flukey bounces or total defensive breakdowns. Should Quick have stopped a few of those? Yes. Is he the primary reason we're down 3-0? No.

The primary reason we're going to lose this series is a terrible, slow, aging D and big no shows from our captain and Richards.
 
RAZZIE King said:
I think we need a good case of the Trotz to slightly improve our offense...with Bernie as our offensive coach...
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I would stop being a Kings fan if Barry Trotz was the coach.

He sucks the life and fun out of any hockey game.

There would literally be no point in watching the Kings play.
 
kingsholygrail said:
He has 3 assists, 0 goals and is a -3. Not exactly playing like he's a top Selke candidate. Tonight he had a FO% of a mere 44.



Sticking Jones out there doesn't lower the goals against. At all. If so many of these goals are easily savable, then putting Jones in should clearly resolve the problems the Kings are facing against the Sharks, but it won't because the goalie position isn't a problem for the Kings in this series.
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I'm not pining for Jones; however, I am pining for my starting goalie to play better.

He hasn't been up to snuff. Don't take it personally.

I just walked to the bar for a pint. They were showing the replay. What the hell was he doing on the 2nd goal? His ultimate weakness is the allowance of a goal within two minutes of the Kings scoring.

Do I still want him as my goalie? Absolutely. Great players can play poorly though. He's been average at best. Team has played like ******* in front of him, but he also hasn't done himself any favors.
 
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