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Prospect Info: Round 1, 7th overall: Matvei Michkov, RW, SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

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Boxscore said:
I wouldn't panic yet. The best times to cash in your chips are before the draft, mid-year when teams get desperate, or at the deadline when GMs are foolish. The problem is, Briere cannot wait until the deadline if the Flyers are scratching and clawing out more wins than they should.

Ideally, all three should be gone before October. But I don't think another team is touching Hart until the Team Canada Report is made public, unless they can get him for pennies on the dollar.
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I’m not full panic mode yet, but I’m not nearly as confident as I was a few months ago. The only one that I can understand is Hart because of the hockey Canada investigation. Guess we’ll see what happens before next years draft rolls around but I’m not holding my breath.
 
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Fly0rDie said:
I’m not full panic mode yet, but I’m not nearly as confident as I was a few months ago.
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I hear you. I think part of that is on the media as well. Once Briere said "rebuild" the media in Philly had him trading everyone for everything from multiple 1sts to good, young players like Jordan Kyrou. Much of it was speculation or a nugget of info blown out of proportion.

I think Briere (and other GMs) are waiting to see what happens with DeBrincat, Tarasenko, and Nylander before Konecny gets moved. Laughton is the head-scratcher who should have been traded before the draft imho.
 
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Magua said:
The front office would rather finish 11th — off the backs of veterans — and call it progress and a sign of a winning culture than finish bottom 5. Is it even a question?
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The front offices of Hextall and Fletcher for sure. But they likely wouldn't have drafted Michkov or traded Provorov either. So we'll see.
 
It’s strange to me that Michkov is so good that we are now highly ranked in prospects. Seems to be a franchise altering player. And yet so many teams let him fall? There were even reaches ahead of our pick. Seeing all the media on this it’s clear we got an amazing player. Don’t get this league
 
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TheKingPin said:
It’s strange to me that Michkov is so good that we are now highly ranked in prospects. Seems to be a franchise altering player. And yet so many teams let him fall? There were even reaches ahead of our pick. Seeing all the media on this it’s clear we got an amazing player. Don’t get this league
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Rumor was michkov refused to meet with Arizona or Columbus
 
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Beef Invictus said:
Like I said. They have Gauthier. They have Mitchkov. They'll dive into dmen next year and they're declaring it mission accomplished. They're going to waste MM's career like always.

They have no understanding of a rebuild. I know they think they're doing one. They are wrong.
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We don't need to be the Oilers to build a winning hockey team. It's the NHL. Winning puck battles, out hustling the other team, getting to tough areas infront of goal and good goaltending will always be rewarded in the Playoffs. Definitely still need some high end skill, as we saw with Vegas acquiring Eichel and getting over the hump. But this is not the NBA, there's top 6 talent lurking in almost every round, so this idea floating around here that we all have to suffer for years might fly in the NBA and MLB, but it doesn't apply to the NHL and NFL.
 
ProcessThis said:
We don't need to be the Oilers to build a winning hockey team. It's the NHL. Winning puck battles, out hustling the other team, getting to tough areas infront of goal and good goaltending will always be rewarded in the Playoffs. Definitely still need some high end skill, as we saw with Vegas acquiring Eichel and getting over the hump. But this is not the NBA, there's top 6 talent lurking in almost every round, so this idea floating around here that we all have to suffer for years might fly in the NBA and MLB, but it doesn't apply to the NHL and NFL.
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We've already been suffering for over a decade, we just dont have anything to show for it.
 
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The Rage Kage said:
We've already been suffering for over a decade, we just dont have anything to show for it.
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Yeah, it was a slow motion train wreck a lot of us saw coming by 2016's Draft. Taking Rubstov and Laberge over Debrincat still boggles my mind. Then the next year drafting Nolan Patrick when he'd obviously stalled out and had injury concerns, with Heiskanen, Makar and Pettersson going right behind him. Just brutal. Hopefully this management group has a better eye and feel for drafting.
 
Unger9 said:
Has anyone pointed out that Michkov's 20 points in 27 games came on a team that had 11 wins and 47 losses? Yeah opportunity, but he hardly had anything to work with. Additionally, something like 17/20 of his points were even strength, and his shooting percentage in Sochi was abnormally low for him. I also am very impressed to see how much ground he covers and how tenacious he is on loose pucks. Very possibly he could be underrated, which is insane
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I’ve watched more than just his highlights, this could very well be Crosby V Ovechkin rivalry type, if he comes over sooner with him and Bedard the skill gap is that close. The guy is the de facto #2 and if he was a 6’1” center prolly 1 OA, if he comes over this season. I think it’s actually insane he dropped to 7, when I saw he was there at 7 I shit myself. The fact that he wanted to be in Philly too, there’s reason to be happy as a Flyers fan.
 
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If the Flyers really believe the rebuild should only be a retool and waste Michkovs prime years the fans will (hopefully) burn off the building.

They better stick to the plan and amass valuable picks before Michkov comes over. His statemend "we probably start winning when I am here" is a clear indication how confident the guy is. This will change if they don't show a plan and install a winning team for the next decade.

You have two more seasons to

- get the most out of Konecny, Hart, Laughton and maybe Sanheim
- acquire role players and flipp them at the tdl for picks
- draft first line / top pairing talent OR trade for it because you did the above and have multiple assets
 
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ProcessThis said:
We don't need to be the Oilers to build a winning hockey team. It's the NHL. Winning puck battles, out hustling the other team, getting to tough areas infront of goal and good goaltending will always be rewarded in the Playoffs. Definitely still need some high end skill, as we saw with Vegas acquiring Eichel and getting over the hump. But this is not the NBA, there's top 6 talent lurking in almost every round, so this idea floating around here that we all have to suffer for years might fly in the NBA and MLB, but it doesn't apply to the NHL and NFL.
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They ARE going to be the Oilers. Worse, even. That's the path they're actively choosing right now. Have one, maybe two guys, and fail to build around them.

The Flyers have spent the last decade proving they are completely unable to figure out depth. On every conceivable front: FA, draft, trade, player development, waiver poaching, undrafted finds. They'll have their one or two main guys, and nothing else.

Building a Tortorella-desired team of grinders actually isn't rewarded every year, either. Pretty much never actually.
 
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Redpath said:
- "If he wants to get over, he's going to get over. It's not going to be a problem getting him here. It's just not. The question is when. And I think the Flyers are perfectly fine with him staying in Russia another year, he'd be like a junior hockey player. I wouldn't be surprised if he's here next year." From everything ASF is hearing, he wouldn't be surprised if next year is the year Michkov tries to get over.
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That was very apparent from all his interviews, he said he was targeting 2024.
 
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