Prospect Info: Round 1, 7th overall: Matvei Michkov, RW, SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

[swami24]

McKenzie's 2017 Draft Ranking: Top 93 and honourable mentions - TSN.ca

For the final edition, Bob McKenzie ranked the Top 93 players, covering what would be the first three rounds of the draft, as well as seven honourable mentions making it a Top 100.

www.tsn.ca

He had Nolan at 2.

 

[swami24]

He also had Gauthier at 4.

McKenzie's 2017 Draft Ranking: Top 93 and honourable mentions - TSN.ca

For the final edition, Bob McKenzie ranked the Top 93 players, covering what would be the first three rounds of the draft, as well as seven honourable mentions making it a Top 100.

www.tsn.ca

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[Random Forest]

I have no attachment to “consensus”, but it’s really easy to scoff at the consensus in hindsight when it’s wrong. Taking Makar or Pettersson ahead of Patrick would be like taking, say, Luchanko ahead of Catton this year. Maybe it works out! But how many people would have the balls to make a pick with that type of conviction without the benefit of hindsight?

I say that as someone who made several posts in spring 2017 to the effect of “I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the best player in the draft is someone not named Hischier or Patrick”. I remember arguing with people who thought taking anyone else was simply unthinkable (though it was Vilardi who I liked a lot that year). I wouldn’t have had the conviction to step out on such a limb though, and I doubt many people — if anyone — would have.

The reality is that “the field” is a better bet than almost any single player. But you don’t get to draft the field. With all the information available at the time, Patrick was the best bet. It failed.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Yea, but the scouts wanted Makar.

 

[Random Forest]

Yea, but the scouts wanted Makar.

The scouts wanted Bobby Sanguinetti too. This works both ways.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

The scouts wanted Bobby Sanguinetti too. This works both ways.

A joke, my man.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Yea, but the scouts wanted Makar.

According to Bob Clarke, who would never lie...

 

[mr figgles]

I have heard everyone in the room wanted someone different at this point. I‘m convinced that they couldn‘t agree on one, and simply went with the safe choice that the rest of the hockey world thought should be taken there.

 

[orangey]

Some fans will never learn...we need to move away from the old style of management.

We'll just draft one at 14th or so. No problem.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

If we had drafted Makar in 2017 there is a butterfly effect especially with who we drafted because Makar probably elevates them and they have slightly lower draft picks. Who knows who we would’ve drafted. It’s a fruitless exercise.

 

[trostol]

if we had drafted Makar people would be bitching that we didn't draft someone better because this org would have by now neutered all the offensive talent out of him

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I would rather have Boldy or Harley over Caufield (Although I don't blame them for taking York over Harley).

Boldy was already off the board. Caufield was the no brainer pick and while he may not be a superstar he's been one of the most productive players of that draft to date and I'd wagee he'll continue to improve over the next few years.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Someone like makar would never reach his potential here

 

[Larry44]

Someone like makar would never reach his potential here

Ghost says BOO!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Le sigh.

 

[Kermit the Prog]

Le sigh.

Wassa matta, Boo?

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The scouts wanted Bobby Sanguinetti too. This works both ways.

I wonder how many people were upset the Flyers didn’t get him the night of that draft.

 

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Michkov said he has a good relationship with Rotenberg. Also he doesn't pay attention at the rumors about where he will play next season.

 

[VladDrag]

Boldy was already off the board. Caufield was the no brainer pick and while he may not be a superstar he's been one of the most productive players of that draft to date and I'd wagee he'll continue to improve over the next few years.

Boldy was selected 12, Flyers traded from 11 to 14 to pick up another second. They could have, and should have drafted Boldy at 11, and never traded for Braun.

But yes I also agree that Caufield should have been the pick at 14. And I also had Harley over York at the time of the draft.

 

[DancingPanther]

Yeah but they needed defense!!1!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Wassa matta, Boo?

Every time the Nolan Patrick conversation is brought up I lose twelve brain cells.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Boldy was selected 12, Flyers traded from 11 to 14 to pick up another second. They could have, and should have drafted Boldy at 11, and never traded for Braun.

But yes I also agree that Caufield should have been the pick at 14. And I also had Harley over York at the time of the draft.

Oh crap I forgot they traded back. I would say I think at the time (and now) picking either Caufield or Boldy would have been fine at 11. Arguments for either one being better now or long term for sure, but both would have been good picks at 11.

I honestly don't remember my thoughts on Harley or York from 2019 because I was not expecting either of them to the pick. My response was probably more being bummed about not getting Caufield or someone else like Newhook or Krebs.

 

[VladDrag]

Oh crap I forgot they traded back. I would say I think at the time (and now) picking either Caufield or Boldy would have been fine at 11. Arguments for either one being better now or long term for sure, but both would have been good picks at 11.

I honestly don't remember my thoughts on Harley or York from 2019 because I was not expecting either of them to the pick. My response was probably more being bummed about not getting Caufield or someone else like Newhook or Krebs.

2019 was the only real year I watched prospects significantly, and I had a 12,000 word write up that I did on the top ~30 players of the draft. I remember it fairly well because of it. I watch them now, but no where like that year -- mostly I just follow the Flyers draft picks.

I'm looking at my write up now, I had Harley 17 and York 19, basically in the same group of skaters. Harley had a great skillset. I wasn't fully sold on him as a player, but it was clear he had more skill and high end potential than York.

At the time, I would have been very upset with Harley at 11 or 14, and was very upset with York. However, In 2019, I was more comfortable taking a higher-floor/lower ceiling player vs the lower-floor/higher-ceiling type player. Now, I've recognized that getting a high-end skill player who can be a top-of-the-lineup type player is difficult, so I'm more inclined to take a swing on a player you believe in.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Im not as optimistic as some that its a slam dunk that Matvei comes over this summer, but I wouldn’t be discouraged after reading that interview this morning.

I think him and Danny both clearly don’t want to rock the boat.

If he comes, I think his team is gonna play this off as “he’s family, we want him to follow his dream etc etc”

 

[Danko]

i think hes coming over uness the khl team gets butt hurt about something the media says.