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Speculation: Roster/Trade Discussion Thread: Draft and FA addition

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Last rebuild was so underwhelming. Didn’t hit on any of the top picks lol. Why do we suck so much

I want to know what it feels like watching dynamic young home grown talent. Just give me one….

We were in the top 5 like twice.

You have to try it more than that. Picking ten and in the teens is no guarantee.

And the Lias Andersson draft was just shit luck.

Look at Edmonton. Lots of bad picks in there.

Keep at it. Keep getting high picks. Keep stacking assets.
 
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i'm saying the speculation on both sides is worthless. i'm not claiming he would have signed here even if we paid him 20mm a year. I don't know what he was basing his decision on. i contend if we'd really wanted to we could have fit both gav and kandre. but that's just my speculation.

the part i disagree with you on is your characterization of "2 years of awful play."

i won't dispute that he had some bad giveaways late in games that led directly to goals against. those ones hurt and they always LOOKED terrible. like the WJC giveaway that laf scored on. Dunderhead shit.

but to say he was awful for 2 years?

Wrong. wrong wrong wrong. analytically wrong, eye-testingly wrong, fundamentally and foundationally wrong. that's the part of this boards groupthink that i take issue with.

Again, I was never part of the group-think. I had qualms about signing him long-term for the $$ he reportedly wanted, but my preference was to bridge him.

As to the bolded, I don't even know what to say to that, because it is absolutely obvious to anyone that KAM took a MASSIVE step backwards in 23-24 (13 point dip in scoring, more frequent examples of the "dunderhead shit," etc). Even then, what bothered me more was what we weren't seeing anymore. In 22-23 (and earlier), Key was fun to watch because you could see the 1D potential. I remember multiple occasions where an opponent would look to be on a breakaway, and Key would fly in out of nowhere to poke the puck away. When he turned on the jets, he seemed like he could catch anyone.

His last two years here? You never saw that anymore. He looked more disengaged. Less willing to take the body. Lazier with his stick. The offense dried up. All of that is on top of the turnovers.

I'm happy for the kid that he turned it around. With the Rangers out of the playoffs this year, I was pulling for Carolina BECAUSE they had Miller. But none of that erases the fact that he played himself out of a big extension in his last two seasons here, OR that Drury did a good job of getting a solid package of assets for a player insisting on a contract he hadn't earned. Sometimes a guy is just a better fit (mentally) for a different market. I believe Key is one of those guys.
 
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Pipe dream, but I'd love that. Never going to happen.

Trocheck and Schneider for 4OA.

Vancouver gets cold feet on Malhotra and takes Carson Carels.

4OA Rangers take Malhotra
5OA Rangers take Reid

Rangers send 26 to Anaheim for McTavish

Rangers put both draft picks in the minors for a year and stink again. Rangers draft Alexis Joseph in the top 5 next year and sign Quinn Hughes in free agency.
 
Trocheck and Schneider for 4OA.

Vancouver gets cold feet on Malhotra and takes Carson Carels.

4OA Rangers take Malhotra
5OA Rangers take Reid

Rangers send 26 to Anaheim for McTavish

Rangers put both draft picks in the minors for a year and stink again. Rangers draft Alexis Joseph in the top 5 next year and sign Quinn Hughes in free agency.
don't forget alison brie DMing my wife and convincing her that the three of us are destined for thruppledom
 
it is absolutely obvious to anyone that KAM took a MASSIVE step backwards in 23-24 (13 point dip in scoring, more frequent examples of the "dunderhead shit," etc). Even then, what bothered me more was what we weren't seeing anymore. In 22-23 (and earlier), Key was fun to watch because you could see the 1D potential. I remember multiple occasions where an opponent would look to be on a breakaway, and Key would fly in out of nowhere to poke the puck away. When he turned on the jets, he seemed like he could catch anyone.

His last two years here? You never saw that anymore. He looked more disengaged. Less willing to take the body. Lazier with his stick. The offense dried up. All of that is on top of the turnovers.
i respect your opinion but disagree wholesale with this characterization of his play. You sound like me discussing Conor Sheary: devaluing or refusing to acknowledge anything good he does while loudly highlighting exclusively bad things.
 
Teams around the league doing us a massive favor here.

Chris… PLEASE play the kids. Sell off a few players, and just commit to the long game.
Sorry CHUD, the retool is on and nothing can stop what's coming. (Unless Drury runs out of players to acquire because everyone else is a better GM with better assets than Uncle Stanky Pizza)
 
Trocheck and Schneider for 4OA.

Vancouver gets cold feet on Malhotra and takes Carson Carels.

4OA Rangers take Malhotra
5OA Rangers take Reid

Rangers send 26 to Anaheim for McTavish

Rangers put both draft picks in the minors for a year and stink again. Rangers draft Alexis Joseph in the top 5 next year and sign Quinn Hughes in free agency.
Screw it. Take Maholtra and Bjorck.

Rongos way - both suck and we still need a center
Or - one makes it to their potential and we finally have a good young center.
Or - BOTH live up to their potential and we win cups.
 
Do you guys think we could hire Mike Babcock to go to Colony Grill all summer and say mean things to Drury so he moves quits and moves to Europe
They should have fired Drury, promoted Sullivan to President and GM and hired Babcock as coach to get everyone to waive the NMC’s. “Excuse me Mika, what is this shitty lame ass DJ techno music on your phone?” “Uh that’s me DJing a party coach.” “Stick to hockey Mika.”
 
Here's a blast from the past, what about Puljujaarvi? He had a very good season in the Swiss league last year
Saw a post about this on X apparently his garnering a good amount of attention. Wouldn't hate it, honestly those are the kind of moves Drury should be making assuming the price tag isn't insane. Reclamation projects, hole fillers, stop gaps while the kids develop. Low risk stuff you can move on from later at the deadline for assets. However I doubt Poolparty is looking to ressurrect his career on a bottom feeder.
 
Trocheck and Schneider for 4OA.

Vancouver gets cold feet on Malhotra and takes Carson Carels.

4OA Rangers take Malhotra
5OA Rangers take Reid

Rangers send 26 to Anaheim for McTavish

Rangers put both draft picks in the minors for a year and stink again. Rangers draft Alexis Joseph in the top 5 next year and sign Quinn Hughes in free agency.
You have me fully sold but you realize that there is a better chance of us being able to accomplish interstellar travel?

I really do love these scenarios. It would be killer for us. But it is wholly unrealistic.

Also, if by chance this does happen, you take BPA and I don't think Malholtra is BPA there.
 
Screw it. Take Maholtra and Bjorck.

Rongos way - both suck and we still need a center
Or - one makes it to their potential and we finally have a good young center.
Or - BOTH live up to their potential and we win cups.
This is what I want, take swings down the middle. Enough with the wingers and D men.
 
player A: 32yo 901gp 295g 279a 574p 47.4% FO


player B: 32yo 868gp 239g 392a 631pts 54.3% FO


any guesses?
 

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