Mattilaus
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is it just me or does Tage look absolutely ripped in that picture? Maybe the sunburn creating some contrast?
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They're going to come back crispy AF. If they're anything like a bunch of other teams, we can hope they're as PO'd too.
Mattilaus
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I have only ever put on pads once when I had a sunburn, a long time ago when I was a kid. I still remember how awful it was and it did indeed piss me off.
Zman5778
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Oh, the irritation. Oh how it hurt. My parents and teammates just laughed at my dumbass.
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Jesus can split the top6
But will he lead us to the promised land?
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I wonder why Quinn has sig. better stats than Peterka? they dont look that much different through the lazy eye test
So, in doing a bit of math on this, making a few assumptions (going to focus on the forward group)
1. Leaving 6M budgeted for both goalies
2. Assuming Dahlin on a 11M deal and Power on 6M.
3. Leaving a ~9.5M budget to cover the bottom 4 D-men post 24-25 and beyond (4-7)
So, if we have a static cost of 36M for goalies and D for 25, 26, and 27
That leaves:
20.8M for the bottom 6 forwards in 2025 (Assuming a 87.5M cap) (Krebs RFA)
27M for the bottom 8 forwards in 2026 (assuming 92.0M cap) (Peterka/Quinn RFA)
31.8M for bottom 9 forwards in 2027 (assuming 92.0M cap) (Tuch UFA)
Going a step beyond that, let's consider the 4th line. If we can have 1 ELC (925k) + 2 vets (2.5M each) to keep the overall spend at 6M for the 4th line...that leaves:
14.8M 3x middle six forwards in 2025 (4.9M each)
21M for 5x middle six forwards in 2026. (4.3M each)
25M for 6x forwards (including a top line winger) (4.1 each)
But, in looking at THIS summer, that tells us that the real inflection point on our forward group is going to be once Peterka/Quinn hit their RFA year. However, I think that also sets us to pursue trade targets that hit UFA in 2026. It should also reinforce that Olofsson is likely gone after next year (If not sooner). Mittelstadt would largely depend on the price, though even middling middle six wingers can get pricy once you start buying UFA years.
This, of course, also assumes we will be spending to the cap in those years, which isn't anything set in stone either.
1. Leaving 6M budgeted for both goalies
2. Assuming Dahlin on a 11M deal and Power on 6M.
3. Leaving a ~9.5M budget to cover the bottom 4 D-men post 24-25 and beyond (4-7)
So, if we have a static cost of 36M for goalies and D for 25, 26, and 27
That leaves:
20.8M for the bottom 6 forwards in 2025 (Assuming a 87.5M cap) (Krebs RFA)
27M for the bottom 8 forwards in 2026 (assuming 92.0M cap) (Peterka/Quinn RFA)
31.8M for bottom 9 forwards in 2027 (assuming 92.0M cap) (Tuch UFA)
Going a step beyond that, let's consider the 4th line. If we can have 1 ELC (925k) + 2 vets (2.5M each) to keep the overall spend at 6M for the 4th line...that leaves:
14.8M 3x middle six forwards in 2025 (4.9M each)
21M for 5x middle six forwards in 2026. (4.3M each)
25M for 6x forwards (including a top line winger) (4.1 each)
But, in looking at THIS summer, that tells us that the real inflection point on our forward group is going to be once Peterka/Quinn hit their RFA year. However, I think that also sets us to pursue trade targets that hit UFA in 2026. It should also reinforce that Olofsson is likely gone after next year (If not sooner). Mittelstadt would largely depend on the price, though even middling middle six wingers can get pricy once you start buying UFA years.
This, of course, also assumes we will be spending to the cap in those years, which isn't anything set in stone either.
$6m for goalies? Gonna carry 4 of em? Goalies getting $5m+ have SV%'s of .910+. 6K is gonna get something along the lines of 3-4 years @ ~$3m. if we keep Comrie @ $1.8m, that save a mill.
Unless OP takes a HUGE leap, his bridge is closer to $4m than it is to $6m (2 or 3 yrs). More like 2x$4m or 3x $4.5M. Another $1.5-2m saved
I can't see Dahlin taking more than $10m, and I'd wager on $9.5 before I'd bet on $10.5m+. Another mill saved
Der Jaeger
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We might get a kick out of this, but seriously, this type of stuff is what keeps teams together and eventually builds champions.
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I think back to the times I was so f*kin dumb when I got sunburned. Just need to prepare ahead of time.
Dahlin is a smart one.
Comparing metrics of players in different systems is misleading. Megna would not be the teams best penalty killer.
SJ has been a great penalty killing team for years. Every one of Buffalo's defenders would have good numbers playing there with the way they PK as a team.
I watched his Kraken debut last night and he made some poor reads and Horvat was his responsibility on that goal. He left Horvat to double Barzal. There is a reason Sharks fans are universally pretty happy getting a 4th for him.
He's a fine 6/7 D, and a Megna-joker pairing could work, but as the team is built currently, I feel he is a poor fit.
I definitely spray on the SPF 30. Being Irish & Polish doesn't lend well for a nice tan.
Daniel Sprong was a healthy scratch yesterday, but turns out the "healthy" is only because sunburn is not listed as an injury
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You don't have Dahlin's skin tone and not figure out a thing or two about sun protection.
I realize you are not alone on this prediction, as a lot of posters also have Dahlin coming in at 10-12M+
But why is he being compared to the UFA contracts of previous Norris winners?
Fox won the Norris 2 seasons ago and then signed for 9.5
Makar was runner up two years ago, signed for 9, and then won the Norris.
Why is everyone assuming Dahlin should be so much higher paid than those two RFAs?
Is everyone anticipating him holding out for a premium contract? Or do you anticipate the cap really will jump and GMs will give out some crazy stupid contracts in 2024 giving Dahlin different comps?
I have a feeling Dahlin re-ups this summer for 9.5 personally. He's becoming a huge target for cheap shots from other teams around the league, and signing this year gives him a little insurance in case of a major injury next season.
Because Makar and Fox were both post ELC contracts, meaning 4 of those years were RFA years.
Dahlin is 1 year from UFA, meaning 6 or 7 of those are UFA years.
If Karlsson is the standard on a an 8 year, 92M deal (which is closer to a 7 year, 90.5M deal since the last year only pays 1.5M)
Werenski and Jones, far lesser d-men, got 9.5M per in a similar situation.
Dahlin is gonna get paid.
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If he wants it. I can't help but shake this nagging feeling that Dahlin is going to tell his agent that he doesn't want a huge deal. That he wants a deal that's going to allow Buffalo to sign the others in the group.
I don't think he's interested in being "The Highest Paid Sabre Ever". Hell, I don't think he'd care if he wasn't "The Highest Paid Sabre Currently".
There's more to it than just 'does he want it'.
His agent is going to want him to get paid.
His family is going to want him to get paid.
The NHLPA is going to want him to get paid.
And BEYOND that, there is a good chance that when he does sign an extension, the team will have never had made the playoffs in his 5 years here. Him signing a 7 or 8 year deal would be symbolic of faith in the front office/ownership. And that too is worth something.
So again, he's going to get paid. He will probably be a top 5 paid d-man once everything settles out. Somewhere in the 10-11 range is my guess.
I'm curious if it's just Joki and UPL doing the NYC trip or if they have others with them as well.
They just got tickets for those two guys and then they were Finnished.
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post all star game the canadian market has been all about Dahlin, its made me realize something
if Dahlin takes 10 mil, he gave Buffalo a deal
leagues on the cusp of the top end contracts moving another 1-2 million up, if Dahlin wanted to he could walk into Adams office and tell him hes the highest paid Dman in the league and Adams wouldnt have much room to tell him otherwise
theres 12 teams out there that would want to be in that bidding war and 3-4 that I wouldnt be shocked if they put 85mil on the table
Fox had just won the Norris, and his deal bought 4 years of UFA (he will be 27 in year 3)
Jones was a terrible deal made by a desperate GM. It was a Skinner-like situation where the GM overpaid to keep a player that everyone knew was not worth the AAV, but would likely test the UFA market if not overpaid.
Star players coming off of ELCs are no longer bound to the salary structure of old. If you are a top player, it does not really matter if you are coming off of your ELC anymore. Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosy and McDavid have changed that and it is reflected in the deals secondary stars are now getting, like Hughes, Suzuki, Stutzle, Norris, Tkachuk, and even Cozens.
Karlsson's deal was universally panned by everyone except Doug Wilson.
LA rewarded Doughty for bringing them two cups
Dahlin is great, but I just don't see him having earned that kind of money. I certainly do not believe he would get it in arbitration with the other comps currently out there.
I also do not believe Adams gives him 11M. If he holds out and the negotiations drag into late 2024, you may be right, but if he signs this summer, I am completely expecting something between 9 and 10.
Maybe Dahlin will sign for 10.1 just so he can say he signed for 8 figures per year. Still would be a good deal IMO from the Sabres perspective.
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