Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

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6 years defines the Stanley Cup window for the core and minimizes the cap hits during that window as much as possible. And means we can add a piece of two via trade or free agency.
 

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While I am cautiously optimistic with the Cozens, in regards to his long term future, 7-8 year deals should be a rarity to forwards from here on out. We have a couple of inflection points, mainly Tuch's deal ending in `26 and Skinner's in '27. The HOPE is that the volume of draft picks we've used on forwards will lead to an assembly line-esque procession for our middle six wingers. When their ELC is over, bridge deals or flipped for assets should be the name of the game, keep the system refreshed and have a new group of ELC forwards to provide cheap producivity.
 
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Someone else said it so I'm just echoing the sentiment: down the stretch could we give guys like Okie, Zemgus, Boosh, heck even Skinner some rest days if we start looking good to secure a playoff spot? I'd like some of them to heal and recharge if they're going to play postseason hockey. Maybe I'm thinking too far ahead
 

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Someone else said it so I'm just echoing the sentiment: down the stretch could we give guys like Okie, Zemgus, Boosh, heck even Skinner some rest days if we start looking good to secure a playoff spot? I'd like some of them to heal and recharge if they're going to play postseason hockey. Maybe I'm thinking too far ahead

Way too far ahead. We've got the 2nd or 3rd hardest schedule left in the NHL.........I don't think there's a realistic chance that we're so far ahead that we can rest guys.

I think there's a FAR better chance we can sit guys because we're too far out than there is we sit guys because we're so comfortably in.
 

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Maybe all these good teams we have to play with our hard schedule will rest their good players and starters because they are comfortably in.
 

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Going to be 43 million once Dahlin signs. Thats half the cap in six players. Not a problem, but you only have a couple more of those core player contracts to hand out before you are into cap managing the bottom half.
It gets to be a problem quick. The salary cap is so low that it's always going to be difficult when you don't have 6 players on ELCs, no matter how many good deals you have. Look at the Avs, who had more bargain contracts than anyone.
 

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Going to be 43 million once Dahlin signs. Thats half the cap in six players. Not a problem, but you only have a couple more of those core player contracts to hand out before you are into cap managing the bottom half.

I really don't think Dahlin takes $11M AAV, and I'm really starting to wonder if he even takes a contract that starts with a 10 AAV. He's part of the group that's super tight in the locker room, and I get the sense that money really doesn't matter to him at all. I think it's entirely possible he takes a Makar/Fox/McAvoy/Werenski deal........and I'm actually starting to lean as that as the probable case, not just possible.
 

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I think Adams has the room to go after two bigger contract players. I'd be in on a Chychrun or Ekholm trade. I'd also look at a free agency move if Larkin or Aho don't get the deals they want.

I'd also be in on something to get Miles Wood. Perfect lower line power player. Luke Tuch out of Montreal is a good target. Still would like to get Comtois as a reclamation project.
 

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It gets to be a problem quick. The salary cap is so low that it's always going to be difficult when you don't have 6 players on ELCs, no matter how many good deals you have. Look at the Avs, who had more bargain contracts than anyone.
I mean the Avs made some moves that were probably not ideal also. Paying Manson 4.5 per to be a 3rd pairing Dman was questionable, had they not signed Manson and found a suitor for EJ they likely could have kept Kadri. They'd probably be in better shape if they didn't have so many players struggling with injuries as well.
 
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I think Adams has the room to go after two bigger contract players. I'd be in on a Chychrun or Ekholm trade. I'd also look at a free agency move if Larkin or Aho don't get the deals they want.

I'd also be in on something to get Miles Wood. Perfect lower line power player. Luke Tuch out of Montreal is a good target. Still would like to get Comtois as a reclamation project.
It's hard for me to have opinions on stuff like this until I know what their plans are for Mitts, VO, Asplund, Girgs, Okposo, et al. I could support any of the proposals but I'd prefer to wait until the draft or offseason.
 

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I think Adams has the room to go after two bigger contract players. I'd be in on a Chychrun or Ekholm trade. I'd also look at a free agency move if Larkin or Aho don't get the deals they want.

I'd also be in on something to get Miles Wood. Perfect lower line power player. Luke Tuch out of Montreal is a good target. Still would like to get Comtois as a reclamation project.
I know, the website etc .. but this guy nails it and both would be great for us if they hit cleanly.


Aho would be Worth making everyone fight a little harder for their seat at the family table.. He always seems to give real effort.
 
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Doug Prishpreed

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I mean the Avs made some moves that were probably not ideal also. Paying Manson 4.5 per to be a 3rd pairing Dman was questionable, had they not signed Manson and found a suitor for EJ they likely could have kept Kadri. They'd probably be in better shape if they didn't have so many players struggling with injuries as well.
That proves my point -- if a team can manage the cap perfectly for a decade and then get thrown off course from a measly $4.5M contract, then I don't know how you can disagree with my statement.

I also have a spreadsheet where I project outer years and it shows that things getting tricky really quickly with such a low cap, even when you have bargain contracts like the Avs did, and like Buffalo is starting to have.
 

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I really don't think Dahlin takes $11M AAV, and I'm really starting to wonder if he even takes a contract that starts with a 10 AAV. He's part of the group that's super tight in the locker room, and I get the sense that money really doesn't matter to him at all. I think it's entirely possible he takes a Makar/Fox/McAvoy/Werenski deal........and I'm actually starting to lean as that as the probable case, not just possible.
If Dahlin can be signed for under 10, I think we have our answer to how much "vibes" are worth. And that 100% changes the calculus for whether the team should add at the trade deadline. Between the Giraffe, Cobra, and Workhorse contracts and any potential discount on a Dahlin contract, "vibes" now could be worth a real impact player in the contending window. In which case, any deadline move this year MUST consider the impact on the "vibes".

Here's hoping Adams has had talks with Dahlin's camp to at least get a general idea of what that deal could look like, even if he can't agree to something until 7/1.
 

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While I am cautiously optimistic with the Cozens, in regards to his long term future, 7-8 year deals should be a rarity to forwards from here on out. We have a couple of inflection points, mainly Tuch's deal ending in `26 and Skinner's in '27. The HOPE is that the volume of draft picks we've used on forwards will lead to an assembly line-esque procession for our middle six wingers. When their ELC is over, bridge deals or flipped for assets should be the name of the game, keep the system refreshed and have a new group of ELC forwards to provide cheap producivity.
If you multiply 11 by 7 in devious kid victory math.. 1 line elc and 4 mitts underachiever and old guy round the annual family table .
 

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I think Granato and KA will want Okposo back. The other options are: is Dahlin ready to be captain, or do they go with no captain next season?


And no. Tuch is not going to be captain next year.
 

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I think Granato and KA will want Okposo back. The other options are: is Dahlin ready to be captain, or do they go with no captain next season?


And no. Tuch is not going to be captain next year.

There are so many choices and I wouldn't be surprised by any of these four:

Dahlin
Tuch
Cozens
Samuelsson

But I believe we get Okposo for one more year.

Zemgus is going to be around as a leader for a few more years too even if he's good with the A.
 
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A Megna-Lyubushkin third pairing looks sub-optimal to me on paper. So in terms of roster building, I feel that would not be a great fit.

I think both players are best complimented with someone that skates well and can create some space/carry the puck when needed.
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A 6'6" low event #6 Dman who would have been the best PKer on the team and only D-man on the team with a positive short handed GAR or xGAR.

As far as how he compliments Boosh... in my hypothetical world we also trade for a top 4D. Megna/Joker make a great 3rd pairing and would compliment each other well.
 
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