Roster speculation part XIV

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

I agree with Zip, there is no way I can see Vanek coming back here, either his decision or ours. His career in Buffalo is over and can't think of 1 reason why we would put assets into acquiring him, not one. He's already 32, already showed a "who gives a ****" attitude, and one of the old core who were passengers....and he was on the ice when Miller got run over, he's a check collector.

Pass.


I still think the deal is Nash. I think NY will want the big fish in Stamkos, needs to clear space, etc., etc. Nash to Buffalo to play on Eichel's LW for the next couple seasons seems like a natural fit, and one NY would be on board with. Not too many teams can absorb that cap hit.

 

[sabrebuild]

He's a rapidly depreciating asset. Would he be more productive than Moulson? Of course.



Re: Moulson. If Moulson got significant PP time, I'd argue he'd have 10-15 goals this year. The biggest issue he has currently is that he's behind Kane/Girgensons/Foligno on the depth chart, all who are much more effective 5 on 5 players. There isn't really much room to shelter players with how Bylsma rotates the top 3 lines. And since he likes to load up 1 PP unit, Moulson simply hasn't gotten any quality time

Moulson, simply sucks at this point.

He could be on Patrick Kane's line and struggle to get 10 goals. Can't skate, can't shoot, can't crow. He's an old man in neverland.

 

[Husko]

I'd take Vanek back as basically a cap dump if we strike out on other top 9 options we like. I really only want to bring in one top 9 winger. If it's Vanek, I'm fine with it, baring other options didn't work and we gave up peanuts for him.

In terms of preferred retreads: 1) Campbell 2) Gaustad 3) Anyone else

 

[Jame]

I'd take Vanek back as basically a cap dump if we strike out on other top 9 options we like. I really only want to bring in one top 9 winger. If it's Vanek, I'm fine with it, baring other options didn't work and we gave up peanuts for him.

In terms of preferred retreads: 1) Campbell 2) Gaustad 3) Anyone else

I wouldn't want Vanek anywhere near this young team

 

[OkimLom]

Only re-treads I would want on this team, Campbell and Pommers. That's it.

 

[Onslow]

Sign Campbell, trade for Nash. LHD and scoring winger solved (temporarily)

Draft BPA. Develop Nash/Campbells' replacements internally.

That would be a successful offseason. IMO anyways.

 

[Dingo44]

Only re-treads I would want on this team, Campbell and Pommers. That's it.

Murray does NOT like Pommers.

 

[Icicle]

Sign Campbell, trade for Nash. LHD and scoring winger solved (temporarily)

Draft BPA. Develop Nash/Campbells' replacements internally.

That would be a successful offseason. IMO anyways.

This is better than gutting the team for a LHD and signing Stamkos to a crippling contract. Hopefully Murray's plans to snag a LHD in a hockey trade doesn't result in a gutting. Let's hope the expansion draft didn't screw his plans to move the players to make this kind of deal.


But let's be realistic. We're going to get 1OA in April, trade it to Arizona for the 2OA and OEL, then solve both issues immediately.

 

[Myllz]

I don't know why people would want any part of Pominville. He's about as useful as Moulson now.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I don't know why people would want any part of Pominville. He's about as useful as Moulson now.

Who comes out for Hudson Fasching once he signs

 

[Ace]

Cal O'Reilly.

 

[Chainshot]

I wouldn't want Vanek anywhere near this young team

That was a big part of my earlier point. We're talking about a high-salaried vet who has checked out in the middle of a playoff race. That isn't the sort of influence to put anywhere near this club.

I don't know why people would want any part of Pominville. He's about as useful as Moulson now.

Said it before the Minny game -- he's where Moulson was at the end of last year. He's lived most of this season off the likes of Haula and Niederreiter generating. He's done.

 

[Jim Bob]

I wonder if the Sabres are in the mix? Although, he's a RHD, so....

 

[TehDoak]

Murray does NOT like Pommers.

I agree that Pom's probably isn't a good fit right now, but considering Poms was gone before Murray took over as GM, do you have any source on his supposed dislike of him? I've never heard him say 1 word about him either way.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Hopefully Ennis is back before the end of the month and we get to see a full team for 5-6 games.

I wonder what the lines would look like.

Kane - O'Reilly - Ennis
Girgensons - Eichel - Reinhart
Foligno - Larsson - Gionta
Deslauriers - Legwand - Fasching

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

Murray has stated repeatedly that he wants a big, tough team to play against, why would he want 5 of the softest players in the NHL back.....

2011 Sabres - 29 (pomminville), 44 (Sekera), 28 (gaustad), 57 (Myers) and 26 (Vanek) were all on the ice for the Miller hit and they all showed their true colors....completely check cashiers, no toughness at all, all have not accomplished anything of significance in the NHL.

Why would anyone want them around any of our young studs?????

Why?????


They were all part of a failed management and a failed core....


Campbell would be a good fit but he was never a problem here, even cried on his way out of town. A position of need and brings a Cup.

The only other ex-Sabre I can think of that I would let come back would be Paille. Good role player that played on very competitive teams also.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

Murray has stated repeatedly that he wants a big, tough team to play against, why would he want 5 of the softest players in the NHL back.....

2011 Sabres - 29 (pomminville), 44 (Sekera), 28 (gaustad), 57 (Myers) and 26 (Vanek) were all on the ice for the Miller hit and they all showed their true colors....completely check cashiers, no toughness at all, all have not accomplished anything of significance in the NHL.

Why would anyone want them around any of our young studs?????

Why?????


They were all part of a failed management and a failed core....


Campbell would be a good fit but he was never a problem here, even cried on his way out of town. A position of need and brings a Cup.

The only other ex-Sabre I can think of that I would let come back would be Paille. Good role player that played on very competitive teams also.

Because one play defines a personality and career...

If the circumstances were right, I'd take Sekera and Myers back in a heartbeat. I'd take Campbell too, but I'm not making much of his crying when he left. He was given a fair offer to stay, but chose to chase the money. I am glad it all worked out for him.

 

[Ace]

I tired of having to bend over backwards to put Myers in position to succeed long before they did. Sekera is way overpaid for what he is. Campbell is old but as a stopgap fine.

And yes, that one play defines Gaustad.

 

[stokes84]

Another point on Vanek before he is written off - he continues to play among a wasteland of centers. The only time in his career that he got to play with a great one was in his short stint with NYI, and he ripped it up. I think putting him next Eichel or ROR would be a boon to his career.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Vanek would be along for the ride, not driving the bus. Not really worried about his leadership abilities at this point.

 

[Jim Bob]

Trading for Vanek should be like Plan Q for adding a winger with talent this offseason.

Drafting someone who speaks Finnish, Rick Nash, a UFA like Okposo, etc. are all routes to go down before you get to trying to get Vanek to waive a NMC to come back to Buffalo.

One of the +s to adding Vanek would be having him as the net front presence guy on the 1st PP unit. Then you have Eichel, Reinhart, ROR, and Risto working the puck around.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

I tired of having to bend over backwards to put Myers in position to succeed long before they did. Sekera is way overpaid for what he is. Campbell is old but as a stopgap fine.

And yes, that one play defines Gaustad.

Well, yes, hence why I didn't include him in my list of folk I wanted back. I blame that on Gaustad, and not the other players on the ice. Sorry I did not make that more clear.

By Myers' last year here he was on the top pairing and doing very-well. I'm not sure how that equates to bending over to put him in a situation to succeed.

Sekera has always been vastly underrated on this board, and I also said if circumstances were right.

 

[sabrebuild]

I tired of having to bend over backwards to put Myers in position to succeed long before they did. Sekera is way overpaid for what he is. Campbell is old but as a stopgap fine.

And yes, that one play defines Gaustad.

Bending over backwards for Myers?? When did this happen?

And out of curiosity, what do you think Sekera should make?

 

[stokes84]

Yes, drafting a Finn should be plan A, but it is a long shot. I also don't think the two are mutually exclusive. Sure, trading for Nash can be plan B, but if the cost to acquire is significantly greater, no thanks. Not to mention he also has a NMC, but has no allegiance to Buffalo like Vanek does. Signing a big name UFA? I'll take Vanek over Okposo with a huge contact every day of the week. So calling it "plan Q" is fine, but it doesn't take you that long to get there.

 

[Sabretooth]

I don't think vanek has "allegiance" to buffalo. If the rumors are true, he turned down a pretty big contract that would have made him the highest paid player in the NHL or something.