Speculation: Roster Speculation, 2018 Off-Season

[Shootica]

For just a pick though?

We probably have nothing interesting to them at that value.

Adding Hunwick probably lowers the cost and lets us send a lesser pick.

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

Apparently an ROR deal is verbally agreed to

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

A 4th that can become a 3rd. So basically free, sweet

 

[Sabre Dance]

We probably have nothing interesting to them at that value.

Adding Hunwick probably lowers the cost and lets us send a lesser pick.

You know what doesn't make much sense with Botterill so far, he's willing to take on multi-year contract dumps to aquire a player he wants but he's not willing to buyout bad contracts on the Sabres.

 

[Sabre Dance]

A 4th that can become a 3rd. So basically free, sweet

Plus a contract dump.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Is Hunwick a cap dump?

Pretty much, maybe he's a decent 7th. But we seem to have a couple highly priced 7D.

 

[DolanPlsGoSabres]

Dahlin to the pressbox and Hunwick getting 20 mins a night (e4)

 

[jc17]

His possesion stats are pretty bad from last year.

Either way, does this end the "Botterill literally doesn't do anything" talk?

 

[EichHart]

Apparently an ROR deal is verbally agreed to

Source?

 

[sabrebuild]

Competent coaches have good players. No coach is going to be good when his D consists of the players we have had the last 4 years. You guys make it sound like coaching is rocket science and each team plays a dramatically different system, having enough talent and players buying in is how you win hockey games.

Gerard Gallant isn't some revolutionary coach, he's not a huge X and O's guy. He put a simple system in place, and his players bought in. That's more on the players then the coach.

Smart people are not complaining that Housley is doing the opposite of Bylsma.

They are annoyed that he went into an offseason, training camp and preseason with one plan, and somehow couldn’t predict that his “plan” couldn’t work until 5 games in. And then you have a variety of usage questions just like bylsma and a refusal to try different things when the season is lost.

I knew this would happen before we hired anyone, but just because some of us correctly identified Bylsma’s incompetence, does not mean that the next guy would be competent. Particularly if the next guy has almost no experience for the job he got.

Babcock is the easy go to for how a team low on talent can still be molded into a unit during their tank year. That team came in last place. I watched about 10 of their games throughout the year. They had a coherent plan that they actively tried to follow thru on all year. Their tank team played as a team far better than we did last year, during the team years and during the bylsma era.

But forget that and look at Arizona last year. Rick “The Gambler” took over a new team, that has been trash, bad culture, years of losing. And they struggled badly out the gate. And then he helped build a structure and a plan that the players understood and worked their way into by the second half.

Now maybe it’s just the players here. Maybe it’s O’Reilly’s attitude. But on pure talent Arizona was not better than the Sabres. And they looked a lot better in the last 40 games.

 

[joshjull]

Would love to see Sheary tried with Jack to start.

Sheary/Jack/Sam

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

Source?

Check out the ROR thread it’s all in there

 

[darcyRegier]

Idk how good of a source Jeremy White is, but still

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

Would love to see Sherry tried with Jack to start.

Sheary/Jack/Sam

I loved Sam with ROR but if he does get moved I’d like to see this line too

 

[Shootica]

You know what doesn't make much sense with Botterill so far, he's willing to take on multi-year contract dumps to aquire a player he wants but he's not willing to buyout bad contracts on the Sabres.

There is no reason to buy players out unless you're running out of cap space. You're better off just waiving them like we did with Moulson last year and getting rid of the contract and year earlier.

Adding Hunwick lowers the cost to acquire a goal scoring LW that we desperately need.

Why can't we just discuss the trade without turning everything into a jab at Botterill.

 

[Jim Bob]

There is no reason to buy players out unless you're running out of cap space. You're better off just waiving them like we did with Moulson last year and getting rid of the contract and year earlier.

Adding Hunwick lowers the cost to acquire a goal scoring LW that we desperately need.

Why can't we just discuss the trade without turning everything into a jab at Botterill.

Who is this "goal scoring LW" that the Sabres got?

I see that they traded for a guy that only had two more goals than Pominville last season and has a career high of 23 goals.

 

[CaptPantalones]

Fwiw Chad Dedominics tweeted hes been told the Sabres and wild have been in talks recently

 

[Reddawg]

Who is this "goal scoring LW" that the Sabres got?

I see that they traded for a guy that only had two more goals than Pominville last season and has a career high of 23 goals.

If you take away Kane, I don't think all of our LW's combined from last season scored 23 goals.

 

[Shootica]

Who is this "goal scoring LW" that the Sabres got?

I see that they traded for a guy that only had two more goals than Pominville last season and has a career high of 23 goals.

I'm not saying he's the long term answer, but he's a hell of a lot better than what we have now. And he was cheap.

Should be a good complementary piece on Jack or Casey's wing for a couple years while we build up some home grown depth. And for at most a third round pick, I'm not complaining.

 

[CatsforReinhart]

Sheary for a 4th. There is one winger I was talking about. Haters gonna hate.

 

[jc17]

Who is this "goal scoring LW" that the Sabres got?

I see that they traded for a guy that only had two more goals than Pominville last season and has a career high of 23 goals.

Sheary was 69th in goals/60 last year. 19th last year. This is all 5v5 which we desperately need.

 

[darcyRegier]

Yessss...I don't think you're doing your job as a GM if you aren't taking advantage of other GM's who get themselves into cap trouble

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Who is this "goal scoring LW" that the Sabres got?

I see that they traded for a guy that only had two more goals than Pominville last season and has a career high of 23 goals.

You really love to reach.41-42-83 in 140 gp since 2016. A 82 game average of 48.6 points per season. Which makes him a high end LW2 low end Lw1. Btw look at the LW scoring over the last decade. Not too many options there. If RoR is a 1C then Sheary is a high end goal scoring LW2. I know we got him for cheap and you want to discredit Botts but you can't,not with a straight face.

 

[CatsforReinhart]

Sheary is basically a 20 goal scoter fpr a 4th round pick. It's a nice add.


Now get a top 6 winger and a top 4 D for RoR

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Fwiw Chad Dedominics tweeted hes been told the Sabres and wild have been in talks recently

Give me Nino, Brodin, Coyle for ROR and Beaulieu plz.