Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[IslandersFan17]

Leads me to believe they have a good idea they are going to land Johnny

 

[The Winter Soldier]

One guy that I think the Isles should look into is Erik Gustafsson. He looked good last year at camp, we had to let him go. But at 800K he is an option IMO as a depth D to replace Chara or Greene.

 

[SayItAintSoJohnny]

Nino at $4,200,000 is good value - 24 goals in 71 games and 4 in the playoffs. I certainly think he fits our need better than Bailey.

Last year I talked about how if you can't get the top winger, you can upgrade the 3rd line and make up the difference there. We scored 229 goals in 82 games last year (2.79 per game) and 152 in 56 games the previous year (2.71 per game), with 54 in 19 playoff games (2.84).

If we don't land the big fish, we still can get there with some internal improvement from the kids and one more mid-6 winger putting up 25 goals.

Still would love Gaudreau or Tarasenko but there are other paths too.

Lee & Nelson - 30
Barzal - 25
Palmieri - 25
Nino - 25
Beau - 20
Wally - 20
Pageau - 15
Dobson - 15
Parise - 15
4th line - 25 if Martin/Johnston are not playing
Defensemen not named Dobson - 25 goals
etc

It's hard, but doable. That's 270 goals in 82 games and we win a lot of games

I dont know why people do this.

Yes, he had a nice season last year (24-20-44 in 71 games for a per82 of 28-23-51) which was very similar to his 25-32-57 campaign of 2016-17 with the Wild....

Unfortunately, those were outliers.

In his "other" 8-odd seasons he has a per82 of 19-19-38. so, no he isn't guaranteed 25 goals by any stretch of the imagination....

Beauvillier, who is almost 5 years his junior has a higher career average than that....

If you are looking for adding a third line goal scorer, I just soon find another Parise for 1/4th the cost and years....

Big (Ni)No

 

[Throttle]

Lou always gives too many years. If we get him, it'll unfortunately be three or four.

We are now entering the perennial "the Isles are in the mix to get so and so" part of the program by all of the NHL pundits, just to find out that we signed a 35 year old to a 4 year contract.

Lou or the Islanders? When you are behind the 8-ball as a franchise, then you have to overpay in $ or term. It is what it is until the fortunes change.

 

[doublechili]

Not sure if accurate, but the EDM blogger on HB says Kulak is going to test free agency. He'd be a good fit if the $$ was right.

HockeyBuzz.com - Sean Maloughney - Free Agency Eve Blog - Kulak To Test Market

www.hockeybuzz.com

 

[Throttle]

Leads me to believe they have a good idea they are going to land Johnny

$7M cap hit, $5M cash.

 

[CupHolders]

One guy that I think the Isles should look into is Erik Gustafsson. He looked good last year at camp, we had to let him go. But at 800K he is an option IMO as a depth D to replace Chara or Greene.

I think the Isles are feeling that some combo of Salo, Aho and Hutton are the depth. But with that said, Lou does tend to do a late summer camp PTO guys. They would likely re-visit someone like him much later... Lol, which for Lou it basically means on-time.

Del Zotto was brought up earlier (personally not keen on him specifically), but maybe there is a similar 1-1.5M, one year contract d-man the Isles can just swap Panik for?

 

[Throttle]

I dont know why people do this.

Yes, he had a nice season last year (24-20-44 in 71 games for a per82 of 28-23-51) which was very similar to his 25-32-57 campaign of 2016-17 with the Wild....

Unfortunately, those were outliers.

In his "other" 8-odd seasons he has a per82 of 19-19-38. so, no he isn't guaranteed 25 goals by any stretch of the imagination....

Beauvillier, who is almost 5 years his junior has a higher career average than that....

If you are looking for adding a third line goal scorer, I just soon find another Parise for 1/4th the cost and years....

Big (Ni)No

If you watch Nino actually play, then you realize he's kinda meh overall. However, people just look at the stats and 'the one that got away' mentality. He's been a decent player, that's about it.

 

[CupHolders]

$7M cap hit, $5M cash.

Without any Trade or movement restrictions too. So he is definitely a competitive disadvantage to the Isles if trying to move Bailey.

 

[MJF]

Lou has his guy!

Now he can hang out with Matt Harvey during his trial.

One guy that I think the Isles should look into is Erik Gustafsson. He looked good last year at camp, we had to let him go. But at 800K he is an option IMO as a depth D to replace Chara or Greene.

Dumpster diving Isles fans ::sigh::

I think the Isles are feeling that some combo of Salo, Aho and Hutton are the depth. But with that said, Lou does tend to do a late summer camp PTO guys. They would likely re-visit someone like him much later... Lol, which for Lou it basically means on-time.

Del Zotto was brought up earlier (personally not keen on him specifically), but maybe there is a similar 1-1.5M, one year contract d-man the Isles can just swap Panik for?

Del Zotto??? Really???

 

[xECK29x]

One guy that I think the Isles should look into is Erik Gustafsson. He looked good last year at camp, we had to let him go. But at 800K he is an option IMO as a depth D to replace Chara or Greene.

Ehh

 

[BrockLobster]

Isles: delzotto. Gustaffson. Kulak.

Johnny G to the flyers. Patrick kane to the rags

Just another NHL FA period in the islanders-verse.

 

[CupHolders]

Now he can hang out with Matt Harvey during his trial.


Dumpster diving Isles fans ::sigh::


Del Zotto??? Really???

Reading comprehension you chucklehead! I wrote I'm not keen on him. Just someone at a similar one year contract in exchange for Panik. Basically, instead of a vet like Panik, a Dman with similar deal.

 

[Throttle]

Without any Trade or movement restrictions too. So he is definitely a competitive disadvantage to the Isles if trying to move Bailey.

He has a $1M bonus for this year, which may bring his cash down to $4M for the acquiring team. Bailey is $5M cap, $3.5 M cash plus another year.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Tell me how you really feel about Gustafsson boys…

Really there is a method to my madness here. He had a great camp last year. Not expecting him to be our #6 more like the 7th D man that will come in with Mayfield for injuries instead of Aho. If salo is our #6 maybe a guy that will spell some off time. I want to see more quick puck movement and offence from the D this year.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I think the Isles are feeling that some combo of Salo, Aho and Hutton are the depth. But with that said, Lou does tend to do a late summer camp PTO guys. They would likely re-visit someone like him much later... Lol, which for Lou it basically means on-time.

Del Zotto was brought up earlier (personally not keen on him specifically), but maybe there is a similar 1-1.5M, one year contract d-man the Isles can just swap Panik for?

I’m all for cheap puck movers for the number 6D

 

[doublechili]

"The Montreal Canadiens would soon announce a transaction that was concluded during the draft, reports our informant Renaud Lavoie. "

CH: une transaction annoncée sous peu - TVA Sports

Le travail de Kent Hughes ne fait que commencer.

www.tvasports.ca

Trade concluded 5 days ago and rumors about it just coming out now? Uh oh.

More likely Petry going somewhere else, but who knows....

 

[doublechili]

 

[danteipp]

The Rags badly need a 2C and at least one, quality defenseman, so of course the rumors are that they are targeting yet another winger in Kane. Although I guess at least Kane is a RW, and not another LW to add to the collection of Panarin, Kreider, Laff, etc., lol.

Of course there are also indications that Drury was bothered by Panarin's playoff performance so, by all means, lets bring in another one of his buddies. That will learn him.

I would really love for the Rags to blow all of their remaining cap space on free agents AND trade away whatever young players still have value in their system PLUS their 2023 first rounder.

Hopefully Chicago isn't dumb enough to center a deal on a slug like Kraptsov, lil' Zac Jones (who is going to get tossed around in the NHL), etc.

Meanwhile Lou makes a hockey trade out of nowhere, like the Romanov deal, and nets the Isles the forward piece they need.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

So you're saying there's a chance.....because we ain't got the money.

 

[Throttle]

I don't think he wants to resign in CAL because of the arena uncertainty... That excuse hasn't been tossed out there just yet.

So you're saying there's a chance.....because we ain't got the money.

If PHI is trying to move JVR, then that's a signal he's going to PHI. Happy to have Fletcher creating a trainwreck in PHI in the Isles division. (unless in some odd way they also net P Kane too).

 

[periferal]

This isn't about money. Gaudreau is going to "pull a Tavares" and move back closer to home (northeast US).



*Also at 10M that is an overpay.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

I think Gaudreau wants Philly, and Philly knows that and will try to accommodate him as much as possible (looking for partners for JVR/buying out Lindblom). I feel terrible for Flames fans. They're a Cup contending team with him.

 

[IslandersFan17]

Makes ya wonder what it would have cost us at the draft

 

[SayItAintSoJohnny]

This isn't about money. Gaudreau is going to "pull a Tavares" and move back closer to home (northeast US).



*Also at 10M that is an overpay.

I still think it he takes that 80+ million.....

But 7/70 was going to be my offer, and his size worries me about going over that......

let the Flyers give him 7/80 and we move on...