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I literally trust NRD more than any other “insider” so I’m expecting to see Perron in an Isles jersey come Wednesday.
Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California
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lafellaesobar
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*come week 3 of the jets and bengals game
also Perron would be well needed scoring btw. a bit old but still incredibly consistent.
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As soon as I thought that I said to myself that’s the guy we’re definitely going to bring in lol
doublechili
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"Novice" is an interesting description of Lambert. But considering how they responded to the veteran legendary coach last season, maybe novice or trainee or intern or whatever will be an improvement.
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That was a flawed roster with extenuating circumstances. Take those two factors out, NYI would have been a 3/4 seed in the Metro, IMHO.
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The flip side of that coin is maybe the response to the veteran legend says more about the players than the coach.
I think a good fit. Isles need speed, he is young and is from Long Island. Should be more motivated to play well here (unless he is a Rag fan growing up). You can have him cheap.
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Lou solidified TORs goaltending in one move with the Andersen acquisition. He did the same with Devils with Brodeur in drafting him, later trading for Schneider, and with the Isles getting Sorokin over and signing Varly as a UFA.
This dumbo in TOR keeps wasting asset after asset on below average goalies.
It makes perfect sense. It’s a very subtle way of blaming Campbell for TORs playoff failures. He did the same with Freddy - he was Lou’s goalie and that was the problem.
Change my mind. Heard he is real bad defensively so he probably will ride the bench a lot here playing in a defensive sound system. He needs to go to a team that only cares about offense, not the defense.
This should be Bailey's last year if not traded this summer. If you need a good passer, you can probably sign Steel for much cheaper now that he is a UFA - similar skill set, and play a similar style. Try him out for a one-year contract to see if worth keeping. If not, you bring up Holmstrom next year.
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I just checked out Sam Steels stats because I was really high on him in junior where he absolutely dominated and something I noticed was pretty weird.
He’s scored exactly the same amount of goals (6) every year in his 4 years in the NHL no matter the games played.
He’s scored exactly the same amount of goals (6) every year in his 4 years in the NHL no matter the games played.
It concerns me the reports coming out that we are interested in Kadri. That move would make less than no sense. A guy who has been a 15-20 goal, 45-50 point player for his whole career who has one big season on an offensive powerhouse team and now is going to get 8-9 million at the age of 32. AND he plays the one position we have no hole in the lineup for. Mark my words this would be the worst decision of Lou's tenure. If we are going to spend 8-9 million on a forward it should be for Kane, Tarasenko, Gaudreau or Miller. Kadri is not in the same league as these guys. I just pray that we are not the ones who overpay this guy after one big season. I would rather Palat, Trocheck, Perron at 4-5 million than Kadri at 8-9 million, if we cannot get one of the gamebreakers mentions above.
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5 PM today is when the first buyout window closes. Palmieri on his way out? Would cost 1.667M against the cap for 6 years. NYI is currently paying Johnston and Panik a combined 1.35M, if they shed those contracts it would essentially be a wash.
SayItAintSoJohnny
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Where is this buying out Palmieri stuff coming from?
Granted it was a horrible beginning, but the guy was 14-12-26 in his last 40 which is a near 30 goal pace. I feel confident he bounces back and we need him to do so. We are supposed to be adding to our only real goal scorers, not subtracting from them...
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I really hope Perron is not under consideration here. I just don't like his game. I also don't like the gutless attempted hit afer Kadri scored, but that's another thing. I think he's a potential disaster away from where he's comfortable. And he's no speed demon.
New crazy idea - sign Samsonov to back up + learn from Sorokin (he is the master now), and trade Varlamov to Vegas in a deal for Pacioretty. (Whatever needs to balance it out happens.) Perhaps I'm wrong about their needs, but I don't think Lehner can shoulder the load for a full year. Otoh, nobody doubts Varlamov/Lehner could work. I realize that's only a 1 year solution. But flexibility is good.
New crazy idea - sign Samsonov to back up + learn from Sorokin (he is the master now), and trade Varlamov to Vegas in a deal for Pacioretty. (Whatever needs to balance it out happens.) Perhaps I'm wrong about their needs, but I don't think Lehner can shoulder the load for a full year. Otoh, nobody doubts Varlamov/Lehner could work. I realize that's only a 1 year solution. But flexibility is good.
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I am not overly excited about the prospect of adding Perron either, but it depends on the price...
He is 34 years old now, and even though he really hasn't shown any real signs of slowing down (per 82 of 31-41-72 the last 4 seasons), my guess is he is looking to cash-in, which at that age screams overpay.
He is coming off a 4/16 bargain deal and is going to want those same years and 5-6 million; which is why the Blues passed on him. 3/15 is about all I would want to give him, and even that I would be itchy about since he has missed 50+ games over those 4 years.
Still, he had a good postseason (9 goals, 13 points in 12 games) and I would much rather add him than overpaying for Kadri- assuming he would accept that offer....
I was actually hoping the Blues would have re-signed him however, which would have perhaps forced the issue with Tarasenko, who has still not rescinded his trade request
He is 34 years old now, and even though he really hasn't shown any real signs of slowing down (per 82 of 31-41-72 the last 4 seasons), my guess is he is looking to cash-in, which at that age screams overpay.
He is coming off a 4/16 bargain deal and is going to want those same years and 5-6 million; which is why the Blues passed on him. 3/15 is about all I would want to give him, and even that I would be itchy about since he has missed 50+ games over those 4 years.
Still, he had a good postseason (9 goals, 13 points in 12 games) and I would much rather add him than overpaying for Kadri- assuming he would accept that offer....
I was actually hoping the Blues would have re-signed him however, which would have perhaps forced the issue with Tarasenko, who has still not rescinded his trade request
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was Lou not poking around Pacioretty a few years ago? I could see something like this happening
SayItAintSoJohnny
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They are almost identical in production and Max is only about 100 days younger, plus he missed quite a few more games...
Perron: 31-41-72 (missed 52 games) last 4 seasons
Pacioretty: 36-36-72 (missed 89 games) last 4 seasons
Plus Pacioretty is signed for only a single year at 7 million. I am not trading my best asset for a single year, and I am not too keen to extend someone who has only averaged playing 58 games the last 5 years, and also will be 34 next season....
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You do not want Pacioretty if you expect to go far in playoffs. People who complain about Eberle have not watch Pacioretty in playoffs
I think Pacioretty and Barzal could be deadly on the rush. And Pacioretty gets his shot off much faster than Nelson when stationary, making him a better option for the right half position on the PP.
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Net: Lee
Half/dots: Barzal Pacioretty
Bumper: Beauvillier/Pageau
Point: Dobson
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Palmieri
Wahlstrom-Nelson
Beauvillier/Pageau
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doublechili
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Happy Lous-day everyone. Not saying he'll do something, but I would think some teams might be looking to shuffle some assets to set themselves up for tomorrow. So if he's looking to trade, today might be a good day.
Having said that, I wonder if tomorrow will be one where we see names flying off the board or if the UFA signings will be spread out and take some time - like days, not hours?
It's interesting that Lou signed Aho when he was a UFA and they could have just walked away. They must still think he can develop into an NHL defenseman. Or maybe it was just a fallback in case they can't land a bigger fish. I will note that right now our #6 and #7 defensemen are both young Swedes, and Alexander Edler is a veteran LHD that probably won't require a huge salary or more than 1 year term. Might be a nice fit to fill the Greene/Chara mentor role and play 40-50 games.
Having said that, I wonder if tomorrow will be one where we see names flying off the board or if the UFA signings will be spread out and take some time - like days, not hours?
It's interesting that Lou signed Aho when he was a UFA and they could have just walked away. They must still think he can develop into an NHL defenseman. Or maybe it was just a fallback in case they can't land a bigger fish. I will note that right now our #6 and #7 defensemen are both young Swedes, and Alexander Edler is a veteran LHD that probably won't require a huge salary or more than 1 year term. Might be a nice fit to fill the Greene/Chara mentor role and play 40-50 games.
You mean like Kadri's gutless hit on Binnington (and many others in the past) that basically won the series and the cup for Colorado? If that POS did that to Sorokin, you wouldnt have been cheering if Lee or Martin tried to take his head off?
I realize it's super controversial to trade a 34 year old with injury history + 1 year on their contract for a 33 year old with injury history + 1 year left on their contract. Super duper.
I do understand a move like that not being a top choice, but I think it's pretty obviously a better choice than signing David Perron for multiple years, when everyone finds out early in year 1 he should have stayed where he was happy and productive.
Kadri's done terrible things in the past (I disagree about the Binnington collision), but that's absolutely no excuse to try and blow up a player who is celebrating a goal. WTF kind of Islanders fan thinks that's okay?
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