Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Mike C]

How will the Toronto players cope with losing a roster player though? I heard that’ll make the guys in the locker room sad

They'll cheer up realizing with the onset of March, golf season is soon to follow

 

[IslesNorway]

That's a bit steep for Sandin isn't it?

 

[PK Cronin]

How will the Toronto players cope with losing a roster player though? I heard that’ll make the guys in the locker room sad

We'll see. I feel like they've turned over half their team in the last week.

 

[Crashsunday]

Really boggles my mind how some deals are made.

 

[WangMustGo]

I think thats a stupid trade for the Leafs unless they flip the 1st for an upgrade. Maybe thats part of a package for Chyrchun, otherwise a very late 1st round pick for a young defenseman is stupid for a team in win now mode.

That's a bit steep for Sandin isn't it?

Is it? We paid more for Romanov.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

He wasn't a first but throw in Krill Petrov. And that Song kid.

Song (publicity stunt) and Rosen (some private backroom deal) were absolute disgraces.

A thoroughly unprofessional means of dealing with an asset. IMHO. But surely not only MHO.

Petrov was well worth the risk. At the time, he was the second ranked Russian in the draft. It was also feared he may never come over. People also weren't sure if his age was accurate (some felt he was actually older).

We had lots of picks in that draft. Those are the kind of homerun swings you go for when you have extra darts.

What Russian-related tidbit hurt a lot during the Snow era was when he skipped over Buchnevich (3rd round) to grab McAdam (goalie). Having covered a lot of U18 hockey at the time, I was sold on Buchnevich being a first round talent. At the U18 in Sochi that year, he was clearly one of the 3 best players in the tournament - a tourney that featured no less than McDavid, Nylander, and Draisaitl.

f***ing Rangers always get what they want. Are you kidding me with this return? Disgusting that the Blackhawks just gave him away.

To be fair, I believe Kane has a 2-team protection list as part of his contract.

Chicago's hands are kind of tied.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

If we weren't quite sure where the Caps stand with the Orlov trade, we are now:

I too am surprised that they got Sandin here for a guy who was a tryout cut for us several camps back.

Then again, Gustafsson has 38 points and a +9 this season. That'll cost ya.

 

[TeamKidd]

 

[beach]

Uh oh - who's leaving

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

It really is a tale of 2 realisms on this board, per usual.

First you have the "want to make the playoffs crowd" who really have no real faith that the Islanders are contenders, even with a couple of additions at the deadline but feel that goal alone is reason enough to trade even more of the few assets we have left. They say things like we are "in a playoff spot" but know damn well that so many games in hand from teams behind us make that a falsehood where odds actually have us currently as the THIRD most likely to take that final 8th spot.

To say nothing about how loaded the East is- and who we would be facing should we get that spot. A team that is on pace to break the single season record for wins and have outscored us 14-6 this season (3-0).

To say nothing about other loaded East teams (the only ones with a fair chance of beating the Bruins) who are adding significant pieces themselves during this deadline.

To say nothing about the fact we lost our best player for who knows how long and are still waiting for the return of our 3C- a team that can ill afford such losses because of our lack of depth at forward.

And then you have the more realistic group of fans who want no less to see the Islanders in the postseason- but not at the expense of trading away more assets (or I would argue not trading for more assets with expiring players)- UNLESS WE HAVE A CHANCE OF CONTENDING.

They realize they are still a LONGSHOT to make the playoffs and literally have NO CHANCE of contending this season for the myriad of reasons mentioned above, so as much as it hurts they want THE FUTURE (2023-24 and beyond) to be more in the forefront than simply "trying" to make the playoffs this season...

Unfortunately Lou embraces the former group and the later just has to watch more bad decisions being made and hope Sorokin becomes God in Net to justify it....

We're not winning the Cup anyway.

 

[GOLFWANG]

third rounder

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

This would be such a Lou move.

Imagine us hearing almost simultaneously that two Islanders moves have taken place.

Lou sends Bailey, Aho, and Holmstrom to St. Louis for Parayko, Greiss, and a '24 4th.
Lou sends Mayfield and Varlamov to Edmonton for Janmark, Foegele, Kulak, Bourgault, Munzenberger, '23 1st, and '24 2nd.

This time of the year is fun...

I have never wanted a team to get bounced in the first round more than I do the Rags. The high I would feel might very well extend my life by five years.

The only thing better is if we'd be the team to do it.

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

Engvall is clearly a rental. Big guy, good third liner but more than anything we helped Leafs create more cap space room. I dont see who this guy replaces unless its part of another move we are going to make.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

My goodness....

I actually like this guy.

Like the longest neck and head ever, but he's got some game.

 

[mm11]

Can he skate and hit? Does he hate losing? That's all I care about, and play the French kid!

 

[SI90]

After the Engvall trade we still have a little over $5mil in Cap I believe

Can he skate and hit? Does he hate losing? That's all I care about, and play the French kid!

Supposedly he isn’t a tough guy but forechecks really hard and plays defense and has some finishing ability

 

[mm11]

After the Engvall trade we still have a little over $5mil in Cap I believe


Supposedly he isn’t a tough guy but forechecks really hard and plays defense and has some finishing ability

remember he scored a few annoying goals against us lately. Ehhh, not my money, it's an NHL body and player to fill in for these injuries. Just a rental, I guess

 

[The Wahligator]

This TDL is f***ing awesome!! Wish it was like this every year

 

[GOLFWANG]

that Engvall trade came out of nowhere

 

[SI90]

This TDL is f***ing awesome!! Wish it was like this every year

Was just coming to post this. Huge Pickup for EDM. Not just a rental.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

We'll see. I feel like they've turned over half their team in the last week.

40000 posts about how stupid and incompetent the Leafs are, capped off by how smart they are at the deadline with video game trades.

 

[beach]

 

[The Wahligator]

To me this says Clutterbuck is getting the Boychuk treatment.

 

[GOLFWANG]

I like the trade for the depth

 

[BarzyClub]

After the Engvall trade we still have a little over $5mil in Cap I believe

Just enough for Chychrun?