Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Doshell Propivo]

Seriously if they do hire Chris Lamoriello after everything I hope season tickets are at an all time low.

Why?

 

[Osakahaus]

Why?

Because I don't want someone hired just because their last name is "Lamoriello"

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Telling an ancient executive to gracefully “retire” or get fired is not mutually exclusive to baseball lol

To be fair, they hired Lou only for short years ago. When he was 76. He's 80 now. I don't think his "ancient" age has all of a sudden taken anyone by surprise.

 

[MJF]

Lou is the President and GM he already upstairs.

True lol. Then he has to be kicked to the curb.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Because I don't want someone hired just because their last name is "Lamoriello"

What if they hired him because he has been a successful pro hockey executive at the AHL and NHL level for almost 30 years? Methinks the name bias is a you problem.

 

[Osakahaus]

What if they hired him because he has been a successful pro hockey executive at the AHL and NHL level for almost 30 years? Methinks the name bias is a you problem.

If he's able to do a better job than grandpa, thats great.

 

[PK Cronin]

I'd be more interested in the mental history of the Dunkin Donuts manager.

Just buy a coffee and a single sprinkled donut and they'll fax it right over.

I’m more comfortable with the Dunkin Donuts conversation.

First of all, I’m going there just for the coffee, not for the donuts and definitely not for the bagels.

Hit your local bakery, donut store or bagel place if you crave the carbs.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

I'm half and half here, depending on what you mean. I think the defense first and grinding style was the strategy for sure, because that's what the roster dictated be done and it's how Trotz and Lamoriello both like teams to play. To leave Barzal on an island, no, I don't think that was the strategy. I think it was last year, to an extent, to hang around until the deadline and then make a deal but that never materialized.

He did some nice things and addressed issues along the way, but he also missed a bit and it's hurting the team now. Bringing in Pageau helped stabilize the third line. Greene was a great get to help stabilize the defense. Then there's the Palmieri and Zajac deal, which I liked, but haven't panned out well. I also still like the Romanov deal. It just wasn't enough and with the expansion draft and cap crunch, the deals just kept things status quo instead of progressing the team. Now we're going backwards.

To clarify, Yes, of course Lou (and Trotz especially) believe in defense-first hockey. But that doesn't mean they wouldn't welcome a top scorer with open arms. Trotz hockey was good enough to score bunches of goals and win a cup with the caps. Here he had to be even more conservative with what he was dealt.

 

[periferal]

What if they hired him because he has been a successful pro hockey executive at the AHL and NHL level for almost 30 years? Methinks the name bias is a you problem.

Actually I have a friend who worked in the NHL and most people there think that one of the only reasons Chris L. had any type of a notable NHL position is literally because of his last name.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Actually I have a friend who worked in the NHL and most people there think that one of the only reasons Chris L. had any type of a notable NHL position is literally because of his last name.

Your friend doesn't know what most people in the NHL think. And it's not surprising that some people do think that. Hell many fans assume that simply because of his last name. I'm not advocating for him but his resume speaks for itself. And if he had a different last name, I'd bet many of his detractors would feel differently.

 

[seabass45]

People loved when he first got here because he was less friendly than Staple, now they don't like him because he's less friendly.

I’ve been here for way too long and I can’t think of one time people here liked someone who writes about the team in any fashion. I’m sure Staple warned Kurz on the way out.

 

[seafoam]

Your friend doesn't know what most people in the NHL think. And it's not surprising that some people do think that. Hell many fans assume that simply because of his last name. I'm not advocating for him but his resume speaks for itself. And if he had a different last name, I'd bet many of his detractors would feel differently.

What are you referring to here? His AHL teams never advanced past the second round of the playoffs, and he’s been the GM of one since 2001.

 

[seabass45]

Your friend doesn't know what most people in the NHL think. And it's not surprising that some people do think that. Hell many fans assume that simply because of his last name. I'm not advocating for him but his resume speaks for itself. And if he had a different last name, I'd bet many of his detractors would feel differently.

What’s his resume look like?

 

[seafoam]

Kurz isn’t at The Athletic to echo fan concerns, he’s there to flex his ‘writing prowess’ and write interesting pieces.

Anyone with Islanders media credentials knows the game their playing (i.e. don’t throw dictator under the rug or the dictator will pull the rug out from under you).

 

[Lek]

Overall i think Kurz does a great job!

 

[Doshell Propivo]

What are you referring to here? His AHL teams never advanced past the second round of the playoffs, and he’s been the GM of one since 2001.

The main metric of an AHL GM with a parent NHL team isn't playoff success of the AHL team. The Devils did quite well during his tenure there.

I just think it's a stretch to look at his bio and come to the conclusion that he is clearly inept.

What’s his resume look like?

The last 27 years:

NHL
Director of Player Personnel
Assistant General Manager
Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations

AHL
General Manager

 

[Osakahaus]

What are you referring to here? His AHL teams never advanced past the second round of the playoffs, and he’s been the GM of one since 2001.

wait WHAT

 

[Doshell Propivo]

It took Barry Trotz 20 years to make it past the 2nd round in the NHL as a head coach.

 

[Top Corner]

I think it'd require too much roster turnover to do mid-season. Usually we don't see teams moving out three regulars and replacing them with new guys at the deadline.

Lou has certainly got himself into a pickle. I haven't really watched Meier much but I can see
Lou rolling the dice on an over payment for him as it might be our only chance to land a young 30/40 goal scorer while also adding Chychrun as well knowing he will be letting Mayfield walk or he's included in the deal to one of these clubs. If he can pull this off, I might just like him as a GM.
Offseason, he would then need to move the Bailey's/Palms & Lee to become cap compliant

 

[steveat]

I think Anders is planning to retire...he already expects to be sent out to pasture:

 

[Top Corner]

It's crazy that only a few years ago I could not say anything that was less than glowing about
Lou without a huge backlash from the "In Lou we Trust" crowd. Fast forward and it looks
like he got more than a capacity crowd at the UBS center willing help him pack his bags. Not that its true, but radio stations up here have discussed the idea that if Lou is sent packing, Bergevin's name is in the mix. I hope NOT

 

[beach]

Just buy a coffee and a single sprinkled donut and they'll fax it right over.

Not many good bakeries in the RDU. I miss the Buttercooky and Tulip Bakeshop bakeries in Floral Park.

 

[seabass45]

The last 27 years:

NHL
Director of Player Personnel
Assistant General Manager
Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations

AHL
General Manager

Googling his wikipedia page wasn’t necessary, was hoping for a more inspiring case to be made that he should be promoted but thank you.

 

[YearlyLottery]

It's crazy that only a few years ago I could not say anything that was less than glowing about
Lou without a huge backlash from the "In Lou we Trust" crowd. Fast forward and it looks
like he got more than a capacity crowd at the UBS center willing help him pack his bags. Not that its true, but radio stations up here have discussed the idea that if Lou is sent packing, Bergevin's name is in the mix. I hope NOT

*Poster spends first three years of Lou's tenure spouting nonsense.

*Year 4 finally right.

"I TOLD YOU SO!!!!"

 

[Big L]

*Poster spends first three years of Lou's tenure spouting nonsense.

*Year 4 finally right.

"I TOLD YOU SO!!!!"

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