Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Zeeker]

You really need to step back from the ledge

Pointing out that a good roster doesn’t completely nosedive when there’s a few injuries makes one suicidal?

 

[leeroggy]

Colorado is at least trying. They had the injury excuses and their star player at least carried filth. What is Barzal's excuse? I love mat but my god, someday he has to put on his big boy pants. Im not trying to sound jealous or whiny, i'm saying that Colorado has still been able to stick around and they'll still make the playoffs, and even if they fail they still did something the isles couldn't: beat tampa for a cup.


right now we are literally having a rerun of 2018. Its almost identical to the garbage of Doug Weight hockey.

If you think that's the worst, try Year One, then some of the Milbury years

Pointing out that a good roster doesn’t completely nosedive when there’s a few injuries makes one suicidal?

I do worry at times about some of the 'sky is falling' comments

This is about us rooting for a Sports team, not whether we have a roof over our heads or a sick child.

 

[Osakahaus]

If you think that's the worst, try Year One, then some of the Milbury years

well im not that old. if anything i've been spoiled by the past few seasons. mediocrity is probably the worst hell you could imagine for a team like us, even if the years we were bad, they absolutely whiffed on picks.

 

[leeroggy]

well im not that old. if anything i've been spoiled by the past few seasons. mediocrity is probably the worst hell you could imagine for a team like us, even if the years we were bad, they absolutely whiffed on picks.

Only one team ends the season happy. Enjoy what goes well, sigh over what goes wrong.

And remember what's truly important.

And Milbury still holds the lowest appeal!

 

[The Real JT]

As certain as I am that this team needs to get younger and faster, I’ve come around to the conclusion that signing Mayfield at the right price is prudent.

At the right price. Give him your best offer by the trade deadline and if it’s not going to happen, then sell him off for assets.

 

[Throttle]

but to just fall off a cliff without three players is even worse. just terrible.

Look at the players that didn’t get injured and are playing this entire time - those same players are seen as the keepers in a rebuild.

That rebuild will go nowhere. Same with a retool with those players.

 

[MJF]

Look at the players that didn’t get injured and are playing this entire time - those same players are seen as the keepers in a rebuild.

That rebuild will go nowhere. Same with a retool with those players.

Makar and Toews were MIA for the first 5 weeks of the season.

 

[Osakahaus]

Look at the players that didn’t get injured and are playing this entire time - those same players are seen as the keepers in a rebuild.

That rebuild will go nowhere. Same with a retool with those players.

so we're in no mans land then

 

[Top Corner]

right now we are literally having a rerun of 2018. Its almost identical to the garbage of Doug Weight hockey.

It's essentially the same team , so one should not expect that what we seen back then would be virtually what we might see now. Trotz extruded as much as he could from a team devoid of scoring and depth and unfortunately the GM isn't sure he should break it up because that would mean he would be wrong !

 

[SI]

May not be very popular decision, but I wonder if Isles claim Hinostroza. They could use his speed and it is an expiring contract under 2m they have the cap space to do it.

Having Hinostroza could be a way to have Beau play with Maty.

 

[leeroggy]

May not be very popular decision, but I wonder if Isles claim Hinostroza. They could use his speed and it is an expiring contract under 2m they have the cap space to do it.

Having Hinostroza could be a way to have Beau play with Maty.

0 Goals in 19 games and you want to claim him? WHY???

 

[Throttle]

0 Goals in 19 games and you want to claim him? WHY???

Makes one feel good. Two weeks later, complain about claiming him and ask for Leddy, Eberle, etc.

 

[gordie43]

0 Goals in 19 games and you want to claim him? WHY???

Sounds like he fits right in. Put him on the power play.

 

[Taswell]

Me: Time to blow this team up.

Lou: Time to ship out our 23 1st rounder and one of Raty/Dufour in an attempt to make the playoffs.

This is my least favorite timeline

 

[leeroggy]

Me: Time to blow this team up.

Lou: Time to ship out our 23 1st rounder and one of Raty/Dufour in an attempt to make the playoffs.

This is my least favorite timeline

Oh, go fry something in your double-wide!

Finally, got to use my Sweet Home Alabama quote . . .

 

[impaaaaaact]

and now we're too far from any possible tank, but also too close to a "playoff" berth. its frustrating to just be in that middle ground.

If there’s one silver lining here, it’s that we should be able to still get a very very good prospect around the 10-12 area. We might not be able to Tank Hard for Bedard or Play Silly for Fantilli but we can still Succ for But and I for one would be quite pleased with that.

 

[MJF]

Nobody claimed yesterday.

 

[IslesNorway]

So much to digest from all the comments here and this teams recent slide. My preferred bottom 9 next season.

Parise CC Fasching
Holmstrom JGP Wally

Top 6
Lee Nelson upgrade
upgrade. Barzal Palms

You're keeping Palms?? He should be one of the first ones out the door if a retool is on the books.

 

[Osakahaus]

If there’s one silver lining here, it’s that we should be able to still get a very very good prospect around the 10-12 area. We might not be able to Tank Hard for Bedard or Play Silly for Fantilli but we can still Succ for But and I for one would be quite pleased with that.

bold of you to assume lamoriello won't just trade the pick on another mid player. He did it for Schneider, he did it for Romanov, and he'll do it one more time.

 

[Lame Lambert]

You're keeping Palms?? He should be one of the first ones out the door if a retool is on the books.

No one is taking that bum off our hands unfortunately

 

[TeamKidd]

It's clear we can't compete. Time for the firesale. Correctly executed we could be back in contention in 2 years. Out from cap help, prudent signing and solid picks. It has happened before....

 

[Mike C]

It's clear we can't compete. Time for the firesale. Correctly executed we could be back in contention in 2 years. Out from cap help, prudent signing and solid picks. It has happened before....

EXECUTED being the word that stands out over here!!

If there’s one silver lining here, it’s that we should be able to still get a very very good prospect around the 10-12 area. We might not be able to Tank Hard for Bedard or Play Silly for Fantilli but we can still Succ for But and I for one would be quite pleased with that.

silver lining = good prospect available

dark cloud = pick will be BOO for Lou

 

[Mike C]

so we're in no mans land then

correct. Isles Norway has stated that several times and he is very wise in that hypothesis!

 

[leeroggy]

bold of you to assume lamoriello won't just trade the pick on another mid player. He did it for Schneider, he did it for Romanov, and he'll do it one more time.

Schneider was not a middle player when that trade was made, it only occurred because Vancouver wanted to accommodate Luongo:

2010-2011	VAN	25	22	6	4	--	2	714	55	2.23	663	.929	1	1,371:47
2011-2012	VAN	33	28	20	8	--	1	945	60	1.96	885	.937	3	1,832:50
2012-2013	VAN	30	30	17	9	--	4	835	61	2.11	774	.927	5	1,733:19

Those were the 3 years prior to the Luongo trade with the Panthers. If that's middling, you need to call Sorokin that too.

 

[Osakahaus]

Schneider was not a middle player when that trade was made, it only occurred because Vancouver wanted to accommodate Luongo:

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[TD]VAN[/TD]
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[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
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[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]835[/TD]
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Those were the 3 years prior to the Luongo trade with the Panthers. If that's middling, you need to call Sorokin that too.

and it barely helped the devils go anywhere. my concern is that he'll do it again.