Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Mike C]

If Mayfield wants to get paid I’m letting him go to the market and spending 5-6M + moving out Bailey/Beauviller on a guy like Kane or Tarasenko. Dobson/Pelech/Pulock/Romanov is the future on defense.

That is unless NYI isn’t sold on Romanov and want to package him with a Bailey/Beauvillier for assets and roll with Aho/Bolduc/Salo on the second pairing (which I doubt they would do).

Mayfield can easily be a second pairing guy

You are right Chychrun would he a good addition, but the cost seems astronomical. Hes also made of glass and the isles have enough assets for 1 big addition, definitely not two. In addition adding Chyrchrun would mean theres no shot Mayfield is resigned.

I would prefer to try and find a top line winger. It would give us a 2nd great forward, something this team desperately lacks. Likely improves the PP as well.

I think Lou is going to try and find a veteran LD like he did with Greene a couple of years ago, and I hope he goes out and gets a first line forward that the team desperately needs.



I think Mayfield would get 6 per on the open market. A big tough RD that is playoff proven is worth alot. I would sign Mayfield to a 4 year 17 million contract in a heartbeat.

Me too!

 

[iggy]

Mayfield can easily be a second pairing guy


Me too!

Not on a Stanley Cup contending team

 

[leeroggy]

3 is

3 is a rarity

Times or participants?

 

[Mike C]

Times or participants?

Times. One participant! Hahahaha

Not on a Stanley Cup contending team

Don't agree. I think he is an advantage on 3rd but feel he can hold his own on 2nd

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Not on a Stanley Cup contending team

Disagree

 

[seafoam]

Mayfield can easily be a second pairing guy


Me too!

I’m not disagreeing that he’s not a second pairing guy, just comes down to whether NYI is willing to pay a premium for a guy who will be a third pairing guy here for the long haul.

 

[Taswell]

Van probably does everything to resign him...but I'd have Sorokin and Romanov up in Kuzmenkov's DMs trying to get him here in the offseason

 

[MJF]

I’m not disagreeing that he’s not a second pairing guy, just comes down to whether NYI is willing to pay a premium for a guy who will be a third pairing guy here for the long haul.

3rd pairing who closes out close games and plays 20+ minutes a night? The Isles SHOULD pay a premium for Mayfield.

 

[BarzyWally33]

Yeah, thats severely underrating Mayfield. This team desperately needs a secondary offensive weapon. The sooner Lou sures that up, the better Ill feel about this team moving forward. Thats not to say I dont feel as if Nelson and Barzal can continue to carry the team, but Im skeptical.

 

[Throttle]

Gross wrote a sidebar story in yesterday's Newsday about Mayfield's upcoming free agency, and writes that "on the open market, Mayfield could garner $3.5 million annually -- maybe more" given his age and production.

Sounded low to me but at that price I'd expect he'd be brought back.

Plenty of 30 year old d-man making $4-5M that Mayfield is on par with. Now, it’s just the market working in his favor on top of his performance. Even better, while considered a key guy for Trotz, he’s even better under a more open coach, ie he’s not a system only player.

 

[danteipp]

I believe there is a good chance that the Isles and Mayfield can work out a fair deal for both sides.

Lou might give him an extra year (maybe even two like Cizikas) to spread out the AAV more, frontload the contract with real $$$ (making him more palatable for a cap-floor team down the line), etc.

The final year or so Mayfield would be a candidate to either be LTIR'd, bought out, traded or buried in Bridgeport (to reduce the cap hit). Especially if he only gets limited trade protection, if any, in that final year.

There are options on a player around $4 million or so in AAV, especially as the cap rises. It is the $8+ million captains with NMCs you have a hard time moving on from. Looking at you Trouba Train, lol.

 

[IslesNorway]

Mayfield took a five year deal at a time when he was hardly established in the team. In hindsight that deal has worked out fantastically for the Isles (and for him, money aside), but this is his last big contract. Some team will covet his toughness, experience, stability and veteran leadership enough to overpay. He may not go for a contender as this is about his life savings. He'll get 5x5 somewhere for sure.

If he can stay healthy then maybe there's a year or two left as a bit part player on a true contender after that.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Do we really need more offense though?
Things we know about Lou:
He prefers building from the net out
Things we know about hockey:
Good defense can lead to good offense

Hard to argue with the math there. Don't think I'd be upset with a Chychrun trade, but can't cost us a current Dman or the next up because Chychrun is not reliable to play every game.
I'm back to "In Lou We Trust" mode lol.

 

[saintunspecified]

Being Jewish, I'm very biased in NYI having their very own Jewish star player, when both the Rangers, and Devils have one. (Chychrun is also, like me, a Cashew - having one Catholic parent.)

But it makes no sense. So much of his value would be on the PP anyway. Are you going to move Barzal off the PP1 for Chychrun & play 2 D? Or move Dobson off the PP1?

I agree with Leaponover that the best way to improve NYI is to improve defensively. However, I feel pretty certain that the best way for NYI to do that is to improve the forwards. NYI's problem isn't (for the most part) defending, it's winning the race to the loose pucks on the defensive half wall, getting possession, and making good first touches. They need a Jamie Langenbrunner type.

 

[crasherino]

3rd pairing who closes out close games and plays 20+ minutes a night? The Isles SHOULD pay a premium for Mayfield.

I think his value is as great or greater to the Islanders potentially than other teams. I just don't see another team swooping in here and giving him over $5m over 4 years or more. He definitely deserves a long term deal. Not when he turns 31 at the beginning of next year.

So the Islanders definitely should pay him....question is - what's he worth on the open market and what's he worth to the Islanders? My guess is that it falls between $4m and $4.5m over 3-5 years. We'll call it 4. Is he worth more to other teams than Cizikas would have been? Yeah - probably as Cizikas has more of a likelihood of falling off considering his style of play. But Mayfield is probably viewed similarly around the league. A no frills guy who gets the job done in a quiet way who is heading into the twilight of his career. A good guy to have on your team but a little bit risky considering his age. The Islanders likely appreciate him more than others do and will probably pay just as much as others to keep him - even if he is a FA.

Considering he won't break the bank, he has a defined role that suits his game perfectly, he (seemingly) likes it here and its a good locker room to be in, I'm guessing this deal is done before the TDL. At a reasonble enough figure.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Being Jewish, I'm very biased in NYI having their very own Jewish star player, when both the Rangers, and Devils have one. (Chychrun is also, like me, a Cashew - having one Catholic parent.)

But it makes no sense. So much of his value would be on the PP anyway. Are you going to move Barzal off the PP1 for Chychrun & play 2 D? Or move Dobson off the PP1?

I agree with Leaponover that the best way to improve NYI is to improve defensively. However, I feel pretty certain that the best way for NYI to do that is to improve the forwards. NYI's problem isn't (for the most part) defending, it's winning the race to the loose pucks on the defensive half wall, getting possession, and making good first touches. They need a Jamie Langenbrunner type.

In all my years, I have never heard this term.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Sign Mayfield and unload one of the multiple overpaid forwards.

 

[PK Cronin]

Sign Mayfield and unload one of the multiple overpaid forwards.

Lou's Counter: Get rid of Mayfield and sign another overpaid forward.

 

[danteipp]

In all my years, I have never heard this term.

Same here, that is a new one for me.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Lou's Counter: Get rid of Mayfield and sign another overpaid forward.

 

[MJF]

I think his value is as great or greater to the Islanders potentially than other teams. I just don't see another team swooping in here and giving him over $5m over 4 years or more. He definitely deserves a long term deal. Not when he turns 31 at the beginning of next year.

So the Islanders definitely should pay him....question is - what's he worth on the open market and what's he worth to the Islanders? My guess is that it falls between $4m and $4.5m over 3-5 years. We'll call it 4. Is he worth more to other teams than Cizikas would have been? Yeah - probably as Cizikas has more of a likelihood of falling off considering his style of play. But Mayfield is probably viewed similarly around the league. A no frills guy who gets the job done in a quiet way who is heading into the twilight of his career. A good guy to have on your team but a little bit risky considering his age. The Islanders likely appreciate him more than others do and will probably pay just as much as others to keep him - even if he is a FA.

Considering he won't break the bank, he has a defined role that suits his game perfectly, he (seemingly) likes it here and its a good locker room to be in, I'm guessing this deal is done before the TDL. At a reasonble enough figure.

I don't think the Islanders should take a chance and let Mayfield test free agency. Like you, I'm hopeful Mayfield signs an extension early in the new year.

 

[leeroggy]

In all my years, I have never heard this term.

Neither have I! Ca-Jew maybe? Pretty sure that would be the derivative.

Not as bad as the Crazy Rich Asians use of a Banana

 

[seafoam]

Sign Mayfield and unload one of the multiple overpaid forwards.

Palimieri would be my priority. Ride out contract year Bailey and Beauvillier

 

[TeamKidd]

Palimieri would be my priority. Ride out contract year Bailey and Beauvillier

Just don't see anyone willing to take him without a big pick coming with

 

[IslesNorway]

Not one of Palmieri, Bailey or Beauvillier can be moved without similar salary coming back. They are not trade chips. Maybe Beau has a little value in a larger deal where the Isles move him, a top prospect and a pick for a player, but on his own his value is pretty much nowt.