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This team absolutely does not need 2-3 high end forwards to win the Cup. They just don't. They need one high end forward with a hot Sorokin and solid defense.

Totally agree, I would say one high-end forward via trade and one "unexpected" contribution upfront helps immensely.

And what I mean by that is say a callup of one of Holmstrom, Raty, Ish, etc. later in the year, who can help add a little youth, speed and creativity. Kind of like when Pitt, Tampa, etc. call up a minor leaguer, who then helps balance a line/fill a hole just by being serviceable and an upgrade on the prior player.

I think more defensive consistency will come as players get used to the system too, which will help contain breakdowns in the defensive zone. But there will be some growing pains.
 
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So there are 3 days a year I love above all others. One is fantasy baseball draft day. Another is New Year's Eve where I cook a lobster tail seafood feast fit for a king.

The other is tonight where we transition the house into Christmas season. Love dusting off the old Christmas classics. Ray Conniff, Frank, Dino and Sammy. Jerry Vale, Vic Damone, Peggy Lee, etc!

From my household to everyone's, a very happy joyous holiday season. May it be filled with peace, love, laughter, good company, good food and drink, and maybe some good hockey even.

Enjoy being a part of the community out here.

Mike C and family! ❤

Nice job Mike! FYI, I believe my neighbor had his tree up and it was lit the day after Halloween (when I first noticed it while walking the dogs). Of course this is a guy who chain smokes and drinks beers at 8:00 am on a Tuesday, so maybe he never even took it down from last year, lol.
 
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Nice job Mike! FYI, I believe my neighbor had his tree up and it was lit the day after Halloween (when I first noticed it while walking the dogs). Of course this is a guy who chain smokes and drinks beers at 8:00 am on a Tuesday, so maybe he never even took it down from last year, lol.
thanks man i'd leave mine up a little longer but the wife usually gets it down a week, two at the most after the New Year.......totally enjoy the rapport we've developed out here-- hope the season treats you and your family well

maybe even get some NYI victories in our stockings!!
 

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I read that post wrong. I thought it said the Isles should be moving their players that are past their prime…

It’s gonna be a bumpy season. Lou will do what needs to be done, if the Isles are there.
 
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The Isles have a very favorable schedule over the next 8 games before facing 3 strong teams. Let’s see what this team can do 3-5 not so good, 5-3 is fine, but 6-2 and above should be the minimum expectation.
 

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The Isles have a very favorable schedule over the next 8 games before facing 3 strong teams. Let’s see what this team can do 3-5 not so good, 5-3 is fine, but 6-2 and above should be the minimum expectation.
Not sure I would categorize the next 8 games as favorable.

Tor, Edm, Columbus and Philly (B2B), @ Philly, Nashville, Chicago, and St Louis.

McDavid is never easy, Flyers have come down to earth, but will play hard and one of those games is the second in a B2B, the Blues have won 6 straight and look to have straightened themselves out.
 

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Not sure I would categorize the next 8 games as favorable. The Isles have a very favorable schedule over the next 8 games before facing 3 strong teams. Let’s see what this team can do 3-5 not so good, 5-3 is fine, but 6-2 and above should be the minimum expectation.
Agreed. 10 points in those 8 games would be ok though I’d love to see more. Considering that we might get 0 or 1 from the first 2 games I wouldn’t make any overly optimistic projections.
 
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I read that post wrong. I thought it said the Isles should be moving their players that are past their prime…

It’s gonna be a bumpy season. Lou will do what needs to be done, if the Isles are there.
Lou will do what Lou thinks needs to be done. This season is infuriating for me. The team is unwatchable for about 80% of most games. They can't complete passes, they are terrible at sustaining pressure in the offensive zone, they have very little offensive creativity (with the exception of Barzal), they far too often set up for long point shots, and they have far too many defensive breakdowns. They are on pace for 98 points at this point in time. Mainly due to elite goaltending.

However, when you look under the hood of this team because of the reasons above, they are not good at all. They are in the bottom 10 for xGF%. This also is supported by the eye test. They frequently get outplayed on 5v5. This is not sustainable. They rely far too often on elite goaltending.

I know many disagree, but in terms of player personnel, I believe Lou has been quite awful. With a barren prospect pool, he has dealt 3 first round picks in his tenure. These players have turned into Pageau, Palmieri, and Romanov. 2 of the 3 are overpaid bottom 6 forwards costing 10 mil in cap space. One of them is a bottom pair dman who doesn't move the needle offensively or defensively. I don't have an issue with trading draft picks. However, trading blue chip picks for players who don't move the needle and then overpaying them is doubling down on poor asset management. Picks are an asset. Cap space is an asset. Per JG, Isles didn't even make an offer to him. I believe it. They didn't have the cap space.

Lou has shown to be a very poor evaluator of talent in his time with the Isles. This is not a playoff contender. In fact, if they keep playing like this, they won't make the playoffs. Not sure if I'm excited about trading another 1st rounder for a bottom of the lineup player this season. I'd rather just stay pat and hopefully have the reins passed on to a better GM this offseason so we can stop wasting Sorokin and Barzal.
 

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Lou will do what Lou thinks needs to be done. This season is infuriating for me. The team is unwatchable for about 80% of most games. They can't complete passes, they are terrible at sustaining pressure in the offensive zone, they have very little offensive creativity (with the exception of Barzal), they far too often set up for long point shots, and they have far too many defensive breakdowns. They are on pace for 98 points at this point in time. Mainly due to elite goaltending.

However, when you look under the hood of this team because of the reasons above, they are not good at all. They are in the bottom 10 for xGF%. This also is supported by the eye test. They frequently get outplayed on 5v5. This is not sustainable. They rely far too often on elite goaltending.

I know many disagree, but in terms of player personnel, I believe Lou has been quite awful. With a barren prospect pool, he has dealt 3 first round picks in his tenure. These players have turned into Pageau, Palmieri, and Romanov. 2 of the 3 are overpaid bottom 6 forwards costing 10 mil in cap space. One of them is a bottom pair dman who doesn't move the needle offensively or defensively. I don't have an issue with trading draft picks. However, trading blue chip picks for players who don't move the needle and then overpaying them is doubling down on poor asset management. Picks are an asset. Cap space is an asset. Per JG, Isles didn't even make an offer to him. I believe it. They didn't have the cap space.

Lou has shown to be a very poor evaluator of talent in his time with the Isles. This is not a playoff contender. In fact, if they keep playing like this, they won't make the playoffs. Not sure if I'm excited about trading another 1st rounder for a bottom of the lineup player this season. I'd rather just stay pat and hopefully have the reins passed on to a better GM this offseason so we can stop wasting Sorokin and Barzal.

There are some good points in this post and some questionable ones.

Like classifying Romanov as a bottom-pairing defenseman? He is a solid, second-pair defenseman, which is probably the best-case scenario for the pick traded. And they got back the pick that became George and he has potential.

The picks traded for JGP and Palms are being generously classified as blue-chip draft picks?

They were late firsts, those aren't top-10 or lottery picks. Or are all firsts blue chips?

Meanwhile later picks like Raty, Dufour, Bolduc, even Ish, Liukas, Odelius, etc. look solid, but no mention of that?

Parity rules the NHL, as part of the great expansion, so it doesn't take much to move the needle one way or the other.
 

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There are some good points in this post and some questionable ones.

Like classifying Romanov as a bottom-pairing defenseman? He is a solid, second-pair defenseman, which is probably the best-case scenario for the pick traded. And they got back the pick that became George and he has potential.

The picks traded for JGP and Palms are being generously classified as blue-chip draft picks?

They were late firsts, those aren't top-10 or lottery picks. Or are all firsts blue chips?

Meanwhile later picks like Raty, Dufour, Bolduc, even Ish, Liukas, Odelius, etc. look solid, but no mention of that?

Parity rules the NHL, as part of the great expansion, so it doesn't take much to move the needle one way or the other.
Advanced stats are a tool, not a decision point. Dubas is proving that every day.
 

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There are some good points in this post and some questionable ones.

Like classifying Romanov as a bottom-pairing defenseman? He is a solid, second-pair defenseman, which is probably the best-case scenario for the pick traded. And they got back the pick that became George and he has potential.

The picks traded for JGP and Palms are being generously classified as blue-chip draft picks?

They were late firsts, those aren't top-10 or lottery picks. Or are all firsts blue chips?

Meanwhile later picks like Raty, Dufour, Bolduc, even Ish, Liukas, Odelius, etc. look solid, but no mention of that?

Parity rules the NHL, as part of the great expansion, so it doesn't take much to move the needle one way or the other.
I agree with the majority of your post but I’m still reluctant to gloss over the first round picks that Lou routinely trades away.

As time passes, the Palmieri trade looks worse and worse to me. He’ll be 32 soon and it’s hard to expect more from him than we’ve already seen. JGP was acquired at a high cost though as a center with good faceoff skills, I can live with that. Romanov was a solid acquisition at a reasonable price for a position of great need at a relatively low AAV.

Our prospects clearly look better than they did a year ago but consistently hitting on second rounders or even a fifth round pick like Dufour is unsustainable as the saying goes.
 

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I agree with the majority of your post but I’m still reluctant to gloss over the first round picks that Lou routinely trades away.

As time passes, the Palmieri trade looks worse and worse to me. He’ll be 32 soon and it’s hard to expect more from him than we’ve already seen. JGP was acquired at a high cost though as a center with good faceoff skills, I can live with that. Romanov was a solid acquisition at a reasonable price for a position of great need at a relatively low AAV.

Our prospects clearly look better than they did a year ago but consistently hitting on second rounders or even a fifth round pick like Dufour is unsustainable as the saying goes.
Palmieri is on pace for 24 goals. That's just a little shy of the 25-30 goals I think Lou expects out of Palms and in the ballpark of the back of his hockey card. If he goes on a slight binge he's at that pace. Palmieri's price may be on the high side, but this is exactly the type of player Lou wants.

Remember, Lou tries to build teams with very little star power and an emphasis on interchangeable parts.
 

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Palmieri is on pace for 24 goals. That's just a little shy of the 25-30 goals I think Lou expects out of Palms and in the ballpark of the back of his hockey card. If he goes on a slight binge he's at that pace. Palmieri's price may be on the high side, but this is exactly the type of player Lou wants.

Remember, Lou tries to build teams with very little star power and an emphasis on interchangeable parts.
My take on Palmieri is meh.

He’s got decent hockey IQ around the net so he’ll get some chances but he doesn’t create his own space and while I haven’t seen his game slide, at the soon to be age of 32 I’m not looking forward to the tail end of his deal.

I’ll stick to my guns and say by this time next year he’ll have the worst contract on the team. This franchise has been in far worse situations to be fair.
 
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My take on Palmieri is meh.

He’s got decent hockey IQ around the net so he’ll get some chances but he doesn’t create his own space and while I haven’t seen his game slide, at the soon to be age of 32 I’m not looking forward to the tail end of his deal.

I’ll stick to my guns and say by this time next year he’ll have the worst contract on the team. This franchise has been in far worse situations to be fair.
I can’t disagree with anything you said.
 

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My take on Palmieri is meh.

He’s got decent hockey IQ around the net so he’ll get some chances but he doesn’t create his own space and while I haven’t seen his game slide, at the soon to be age of 32 I’m not looking forward to the tail end of his deal.

I’ll stick to my guns and say by this time next year he’ll have the worst contract on the team. This franchise has been in far worse situations to be fair.

I think that's reasonable, except being the worst contract on the team maybe? Then again, the team doesn't have that many bad contracts.
 
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Palmieri's NTC becomes a M-NTC this upcoming offseason.

Bailey and Beauvillier will have one year remaining on their deals this upcoming offseason and have no trade protection whatsoever.

I hope Lamoriello explores moving Palmieri at the draft, but lets be honest Bailey and Beauvillier need to go first (which in turn makes them harder to move).
 

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Palmieri's NTC becomes a M-NTC this upcoming offseason.

Bailey and Beauvillier will have one year remaining on their deals this upcoming offseason and have no trade protection whatsoever.

I hope Lamoriello explores moving Palmieri at the draft, but lets be honest Bailey and Beauvillier need to go first (which in turn makes them harder to move).
I don’t see Palms going anywhere. Agree his meh, but very opportunistic in the playoffs. Bailey/Beau seem better suited to salary/cap exchange in a deadline trade. Bailey reached his 1k game with the Isles as a homegrown.

Kessel did it with his 5th team. Honorable feat, but not one that should keep his stall with the Isles. If anything, it’s that move that shakes the room a bit to demonstrate the owners/GM are serious about winning.
 

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Advanced stats are a tool, not a decision point. Dubas is proving that every day.

I absolutely agree and too many stat heads are seemingly completely inflexible to any other ideas. They dig in when things go against them, and often double down without trying to consider alternatives to why they might be seeing different results than expected.

The Isles are winning right now due in large part to the elite goaltending they are receiving. I don't think anyone is arguing that. But that is the way they are built and they paid up for that elite goaltending. You can't discount it. Just like you can't give a pass to teams that lose because they are missing that element. It is what it is.

The Isles also play with heart and are capable of going on streaks and deep runs, as witnessed by the two ECF final appearances and their comeback ability late in games. But I guess there isn't a way to measure or chart that so - unsustainable is the reactive response.

I uses stats and athletic profiles to help draft my fantasy baseball and football teams. So i definitely see the value and allure. But I try to gather as much information as possible and, even then, I know I can be wrong for a multitude of reasons.

The game is far bigger than just stats, spreadsheets and charts. It is played by humans who wear down, make mistakes, have injuries and off days, etc. It is a team game where chemistry matters too. Lots of little things that add up and contribute.

Far too many people seem to take stats as gospel and don't see it as simply a tool that provides another view and consideration. And it is made worse when they keep trying to push their agenda and end up alienating people and shut down any open discussion.
 

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I absolutely agree and too many stat heads are seemingly completely inflexible to any other ideas. They dig in when things go against them, and often double down without trying to consider alternatives to why they might be seeing different results than expected.

The Isles are winning right now due in large part to the elite goaltending they are receiving. I don't think anyone is arguing that. But that is the way they are built and they paid up for that elite goaltending. You can't discount it. Just like you can't give a pass to teams that lose because they are missing that element. It is what it is.

The Isles also play with heart and are capable of going on streaks and deep runs, as witnessed by the two ECF final appearances and their comeback ability late in games. But I guess there isn't a way to measure or chart that so - unsustainable is the reactive response.

I uses stats and athletic profiles to help draft my fantasy baseball and football teams. So i definitely see the value and allure. But I try to gather as much information as possible and, even then, I know I can be wrong for a multitude of reasons.

The game is far bigger than just stats, spreadsheets and charts. It is played by humans who wear down, make mistakes, have injuries and off days, etc. It is a team game where chemistry matters too. Lots of little things that add up and contribute.

Far too many people seem to take stats as gospel and don't see it as simply a tool that provides another view and consideration. And it is made worse when they keep trying to push their agenda and end up alienating people and shut down any open discussion.
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I absolutely agree and too many stat heads are seemingly completely inflexible to any other ideas. They dig in when things go against them, and often double down without trying to consider alternatives to why they might be seeing different results than expected.

The Isles are winning right now due in large part to the elite goaltending they are receiving. I don't think anyone is arguing that. But that is the way they are built and they paid up for that elite goaltending. You can't discount it. Just like you can't give a pass to teams that lose because they are missing that element. It is what it is.

The Isles also play with heart and are capable of going on streaks and deep runs, as witnessed by the two ECF final appearances and their comeback ability late in games. But I guess there isn't a way to measure or chart that so - unsustainable is the reactive response.

I uses stats and athletic profiles to help draft my fantasy baseball and football teams. So i definitely see the value and allure. But I try to gather as much information as possible and, even then, I know I can be wrong for a multitude of reasons.

The game is far bigger than just stats, spreadsheets and charts. It is played by humans who wear down, make mistakes, have injuries and off days, etc. It is a team game where chemistry matters too. Lots of little things that add up and contribute.

Far too many people seem to take stats as gospel and don't see it as simply a tool that provides another view and consideration. And it is made worse when they keep trying to push their agenda and end up alienating people and shut down any open discussion.
The Islanders as constructed cannot compete with the best teams in the league. Just because we have elite goaltending does not mean we need to overpay bottom line players and miscast them in roles they cannot succeed in. These are unforced errors. Nobody made Lou trade for JGP, Palmieri, and give them contracts that didn't make sense. Also, your point about analytics is correct. They are data points. However, by whichever metric you use, this Islander team gets out chanced mostly every night. That is not sustainable. Metrics don't have to tell you that the Isles don't have high end players who can create consistently outside of Barzal.
You can point to the ECF x 2, and call it a success. To me, it is not enough. The team surprised many and outperformed their expectations twice. Instead of building on that, we didn't do enough to get better each year. Most teams strive to get better each year on paper (Vegas is the most extreme example). The Isles do nothing significant. They just watch their players age, give away first round picks for replacement level players, and then hope goaltending wills their way into a playoff spot. That is not sustainable. They can still play with heart and acquire players with skill. Not players like Palmieri, JGP, and Romanov. To your point on Romanov, he's at 45% xGF and 50% actual GF. He doesn't create anything offensively. He's an average passer. There is nothing in his skill set that screams top 4 defenseman. He may become one some day, but doesn't look likely based on his skill set. He's good at blocking shots. Not worth a 13th overall pick. He's 22 so I guess there's hope.
Overall, Lou fell in love so hard that he refused to make this team better each year. So instead of using cap space as an asset and potentially signing a JG, all we have are players like Bailey, JGP, Palmieri, Romanov, etc. It's infuriating.
 

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The Islanders as constructed cannot compete with the best teams in the league. Just because we have elite goaltending does not mean we need to overpay bottom line players and miscast them in roles they cannot succeed in. These are unforced errors. Nobody made Lou trade for JGP, Palmieri, and give them contracts that didn't make sense. Also, your point about analytics is correct. They are data points. However, by whichever metric you use, this Islander team gets out chanced mostly every night. That is not sustainable. Metrics don't have to tell you that the Isles don't have high end players who can create consistently outside of Barzal.
You can point to the ECF x 2, and call it a success. To me, it is not enough. The team surprised many and outperformed their expectations twice. Instead of building on that, we didn't do enough to get better each year. Most teams strive to get better each year on paper (Vegas is the most extreme example). The Isles do nothing significant. They just watch their players age, give away first round picks for replacement level players, and then hope goaltending wills their way into a playoff spot. That is not sustainable. They can still play with heart and acquire players with skill. Not players like Palmieri, JGP, and Romanov. To your point on Romanov, he's at 45% xGF and 50% actual GF. He doesn't create anything offensively. He's an average passer. There is nothing in his skill set that screams top 4 defenseman. He may become one some day, but doesn't look likely based on his skill set. He's good at blocking shots. Not worth a 13th overall pick. He's 22 so I guess there's hope.
Overall, Lou fell in love so hard that he refused to make this team better each year. So instead of using cap space as an asset and potentially signing a JG, all we have are players like Bailey, JGP, Palmieri, Romanov, etc. It's infuriating.

Romanov hits, blocks shots, is a decent passer and skates well. That is a lot to like and makes him an interesting talent. He is young, with a new team and should continue to improve as he gains experience. He lost valuable development time while playing with a Montreal team that was in disarray. His role should grow and evolve over time.

The Isles already have several defensemen generating offense, including Romanov's typical partners in Dobson and Mayfield. Romanov needs to be the responsible player, you can't have everyone skating up ice or making stretch passes.

The Isles competed with the best 2 of the last 3 years and are winning again now, all while under a new coach and modified system.

The young players in the AHL are doing well and are almost categorically taking a big step forward from Raty to Dufour to Bolduc. The Isles should be looking to add a high-end piece and work in some of the players in Bridgeport over the next couple seasons. They will continue to try and develop Wahlstrom.

Rome wasn't built in a day, it takes time. This isn't a finished product but where is the fun in acknowledging that, right? Better to bang the drum relentlessly.

Vegas is your example? They are a nightmare of musical chairs and cap issues that far outweighs the Isles. They were an even bigger disaster than the Isles last season. They are also operating under vastly different circumstances, in that they are a desired destination for many NHL players. The Isles are not.

Like Billy Hoyle said, it seems that: You'd rather look good and lose, than look bad and win.
 
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The Islanders as constructed cannot compete with the best teams in the league. Just because we have elite goaltending does not mean we need to overpay bottom line players and miscast them in roles they cannot succeed in. These are unforced errors. Nobody made Lou trade for JGP, Palmieri, and give them contracts that didn't make sense. Also, your point about analytics is correct. They are data points. However, by whichever metric you use, this Islander team gets out chanced mostly every night. That is not sustainable. Metrics don't have to tell you that the Isles don't have high end players who can create consistently outside of Barzal.
You can point to the ECF x 2, and call it a success. To me, it is not enough. The team surprised many and outperformed their expectations twice. Instead of building on that, we didn't do enough to get better each year. Most teams strive to get better each year on paper (Vegas is the most extreme example). The Isles do nothing significant. They just watch their players age, give away first round picks for replacement level players, and then hope goaltending wills their way into a playoff spot. That is not sustainable. They can still play with heart and acquire players with skill. Not players like Palmieri, JGP, and Romanov. To your point on Romanov, he's at 45% xGF and 50% actual GF. He doesn't create anything offensively. He's an average passer. There is nothing in his skill set that screams top 4 defenseman. He may become one some day, but doesn't look likely based on his skill set. He's good at blocking shots. Not worth a 13th overall pick. He's 22 so I guess there's hope.
Overall, Lou fell in love so hard that he refused to make this team better each year. So instead of using cap space as an asset and potentially signing a JG, all we have are players like Bailey, JGP, Palmieri, Romanov, etc. It's infuriating.
interesting: The Islanders as constructed cannot compete with the best teams in the league. Didn't this year's NYI constructed squad beat The Rags, Carolina and The Cup champs Colorado 3 games in a row a mere 3 1/2 weeks ago? That was 3 games in 4 nights. Just pointing out facts:
 

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interesting: The Islanders as constructed cannot compete with the best teams in the league. Didn't this year's NYI constructed squad beat The Rags, Carolina and The Cup champs Colorado 3 games in a row a mere 3 1/2 weeks ago? That was 3 games in 4 nights. Just pointing out facts:

Where is the fun, if you can't move the goal posts to fit your argument?

The NHL, like many other leagues, tends to be about parity. You can look very good one game, mediocre the next and then there are the complete stinkers mixed in. Heck, that even happens period to period. Every team is going to be up and down throughout the season.

There are predominantly four types of NHL teams (outside of the few elite teams we have seen in Tampa and Colorado recently):

1. Teams top-heavy with offensive talent in limited spots, like the Rags and Laffs, who have noticeable warts;
2. Balanced teams, such as the Isles and Stars (throw in the Blues up until this year), who can compete most games;
3. Young teams potentially finding their way, like the Devils and Kings; and
4. The dregs of the league like Arizona, Anaheim, Ottawa, etc.

It is funny, I bet some of those complaining about the Isles would probably love to have Vancouver or Columbus' collection of offensive talent upfront, of course both of those teams have glaring holes elsewhere and are hot garbage right now.

I am just hoping that the Isles can develop one or two forwards internally AND then add one big piece to take the next step. Filling 2 spots should be very doable over the rest of the season and makes for organic growth.
 
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The Islanders as constructed cannot compete with the best teams in the league. Just because we have elite goaltending does not mean we need to overpay bottom line players and miscast them in roles they cannot succeed in. These are unforced errors. Nobody made Lou trade for JGP, Palmieri, and give them contracts that didn't make sense. Also, your point about analytics is correct. They are data points. However, by whichever metric you use, this Islander team gets out chanced mostly every night. That is not sustainable. Metrics don't have to tell you that the Isles don't have high end players who can create consistently outside of Barzal.
You can point to the ECF x 2, and call it a success. To me, it is not enough. The team surprised many and outperformed their expectations twice. Instead of building on that, we didn't do enough to get better each year. Most teams strive to get better each year on paper (Vegas is the most extreme example). The Isles do nothing significant. They just watch their players age, give away first round picks for replacement level players, and then hope goaltending wills their way into a playoff spot. That is not sustainable. They can still play with heart and acquire players with skill. Not players like Palmieri, JGP, and Romanov. To your point on Romanov, he's at 45% xGF and 50% actual GF. He doesn't create anything offensively. He's an average passer. There is nothing in his skill set that screams top 4 defenseman. He may become one some day, but doesn't look likely based on his skill set. He's good at blocking shots. Not worth a 13th overall pick. He's 22 so I guess there's hope.
Overall, Lou fell in love so hard that he refused to make this team better each year. So instead of using cap space as an asset and potentially signing a JG, all we have are players like Bailey, JGP, Palmieri, Romanov, etc. It's infuriating.
Nobody made Lou trade for JGP and Palmieri. True, but those players resulted in B2B conference finals, so the Isles (a) got their return on investment there, (b) they furthered their return by resigning them.

Nobody made Lou resign them. Well, the Isles franchise did. Inept, culture of losing, and unattractive place to play by unattached players to sign on kinda answers that one. The Isles already had a 25G scored that cost more than Palms and fans complained all day long. Oh, draft him…that Wally guy may reach 25G, may, this year. That’s exciting, since he’s yet to come close.


Considering the biggest fish this franchise has signed in UFA that had no prior relationship with the franchise was Varly is all you need to know. The boogeyman is ‘cap space’ since it provides those fans with fodder to complain vs the reality.
 
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