Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Mike C]

Yup.

But then why did Lou pay Bellows during the summer instead of letting him walk?

He's an idiot?
Pictures?

 

[SI90]

Yup.

But then why did Lou pay Bellows during the summer instead of letting him walk?

There’s are questions that people have that are 100% justifiable and will 100% never be answered lol

 

[SI]

The 2 teams I’d watch for are the Coyotes and the Wild. Possibly DET

Bellows will clear - too much $ and there are flaws in his game and skating. I can see a trade after he clears for a similar young player.

Minny and Detroit have better options

 

[majormet]

Woah

I think Kiefer Sutherland would have more points at this point, at least he portrayed an Isles fan in a show once before.

Send him to Minnesota where his dad played.

 

[Seph]

Yup.

But then why did Lou pay Bellows during the summer instead of letting him walk?

Might've been to get him through waivers if he still wasn't ready so he can get more seasoning in the AHL. Maybe he was hoping to use him as a piece in a trade but no one was interested. Maybe he felt Bellows was ready and had earned it, then found out he was wrong. Probably other possibilities as well.

Either way, there are two potential results of the signing and subsequent waiving. 1) He gets claimed and we lose him for nothing, which has essentially the same net effect as letting him walk. 2) He clears waivers and goes to the AHL where 1.125m of his cap hit will be buried, and hopefully he can turn it around or at least be a decent option for call up when injuries hit, which seems like sufficient value to justify a 75k cap hit.

 

[Mike C]

Might've been to get him through waivers if he still wasn't ready so he can get more seasoning in the AHL. Maybe he was hoping to use him as a piece in a trade but no one was interested. Maybe he felt Bellows was ready and had earned it, then found out he was wrong. Probably other possibilities as well.

Either way, there are two potential results of the signing and subsequent waiving. 1) He gets claimed and we lose him for nothing, which has essentially the same net effect as letting him walk. 2) He clears waivers and goes to the AHL where 1.125m of his cap hit will be buried, and hopefully he can turn it around or at least be a decent option for call up when injuries hit, which seems like sufficient value to justify a 75k cap hit.

maybe something happened to prompt Lou to do this....not implausible for Bellows to have popped off about lack of playing time and for Lou to say "oh yeah, watch this"

 

[Tiagopx]

I think someone's gonna claim him. Vancouver, Montreal and Detroit are some of the teams that could be interested in making the move.

Even though he's not good enough and didn't develop as we all wanted to, I can still see more upside in him than the guy we should be waiving... Soshnikov.

 

[saintunspecified]

There’s are questions that people have that are 100% justifiable and will 100% never be answered lol

True. Still, I think it's fair to believe that NYI learned in camp that they can trust Holmstrom's all-around game at the NHL level more than they can trust Bellows should they need a depth winger. If not, they shouldn't have felt comfortable waiving him.

I feel doubtful he'll get claimed anyway.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

The contract makes him relatively difficult to pick up right now, at this point, where most all teams have already "done" all their waiver work at the beginning of the season.

Also, not so many teams out there look like they're at a point where they're ready to give up on someone currently on their roster (i.e. place one on waivers in order to claim Bellows).

People can't forget that to grab someone, you've got to not only remain cap-compliant, but also place someone on waivers if you're currently at the 14-7-2 roster limit.

As for the reasoning behind it.... What I'm seeing online and especially at Twitter shows me that many, many fans just don't really understand that it doesn't need to mean anything other than that the team sees itself wanting to use other personnel at this point.

And when he got his contract this summer, many scratched their heads at the $$$ number while a few others pointed out rather quickly that he'd be hard to claim off waivers at that cost. Which is prolly why he got that money at that point. We all knew that determining what Wahlstrom and Bellows are going to be for this club was one of Lambert's biggest tasks.

We've now got a sample size of what choices they've obviously given him.

THIS ALL SAID:
I think Bellows had trade value to conclude last season. He was on the up and then went to the Worlds and played decently for the US with a few points.

He was an RFA not due much money.

I really thought there'd be a market for him.

Maybe there would have been... in the eyes of another GM.

 

[Skidrow11]

The contract makes him relatively difficult to pick up right now, at this point, where most all teams have already "done" all their waiver work at the beginning of the season.

Also, not so many teams out there look like they're at a point where they're ready to give up on someone currently on their roster (i.e. place one on waivers in order to claim Bellows).

People can't forget that to grab someone, you've got to not only remain cap-compliant, but also place someone on waivers if you're currently at the 14-7-2 roster limit.

As for the reasoning behind it.... What I'm seeing online and especially at Twitter shows me that many, many fans just don't really understand that it doesn't need to mean anything other than that the team sees itself wanting to use other personnel at this point.

And when he got his contract this summer, many scratched their heads at the $$$ number while a few others pointed out rather quickly that he'd be hard to claim off waivers at that cost. Which is prolly why he got that money at that point. We all knew that determining what Wahlstrom and Bellows are going to be for this club was one of Lambert's biggest tasks.

We've now got a sample size of what choices they've obviously given him.

THIS ALL SAID:
I think Bellows had trade value to conclude last season. He was on the up and then went to the Worlds and played decently for the US with a few points.

He was an RFA not due much money.

I really thought there'd be a market for him.

Maybe there would have been... in the eyes of another GM.

Market for him? In a trade? For what a 6th round pick. If you watched this guy on the rangers and saw the isles trade for him what would you be thinking? We would all be banging our heads. The other posters over the years have already mentioned his poor skill set, no size, no skating, ...he has no value. I suppose if Sidney crosby needs a cheap winger he could score 30 goals. But we don't have a player that makes other players better.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Market for him? In a trade? For what a 6th round pick. If you watched this guy on the rangers and saw the isles trade for him what would you be thinking? We would all be banging our heads. The other posters over the years have already mentioned his poor skill set, no size, no skating, ...he has no value. I suppose if Sidney crosby needs a cheap winger he could score 30 goals. But we don't have a player that makes other players better.

I explicitly wrote:
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I think Bellows had trade value to conclude last season. He was on the up and then went to the Worlds and played decently for the US with a few points.
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The situation is obviously different now.

 

[Sheva7]

If anything, it sends a message to the players of, "hey, wake up or you might be next!".

 

[Strummergas]

Any word? I assume he cleared?

 

[seafoam]

I explicitly wrote:
<<<
I think Bellows had trade value to conclude last season. He was on the up and then went to the Worlds and played decently for the US with a few points.
<<<

The situation is obviously different now.

Suggested trade.

 

[PK Cronin]

Suggested trade.

Intentionally provides the wrong article to get more clicks?

 

[Strummergas]

Oh, it's 2PM. I thought it was noon.

 

[Big L]

Intentionally provides the wrong article to get more clicks?

Always check your work, people!

 

[MJF]

Cap space coming our way.

 

[steveat]

Too Bad...I wanted to see him play, but at least he won't be Ho-Sang'd anymore

 

[19 in a row]

Bellows to flyers damn

 

[SI90]

Bellows will clear - too much $ and there are flaws in his game and skating. I can see a trade after he clears for a similar young player.

Minny and Detroit have better options

 

[19 in a row]

Cap space coming our way.

Damn for nothing and in our division. Now you know he will be good eventually

 

[MJF]

Damn for nothing and in our division. Now you know he will be good eventually

L. O. L.

Eventually never came for Bellows on the Island.

I hope he likes blocking shots.

 

[mm11]

Too lazy to look it up. How much cap space we have now? 4 million? I'll play for 350k.

 

[seafoam]

that’s some yummy cap savings. I think Bellows goes back on waivers when JvR’s hand heals (he broke it)