It's not just one thing, it's been happening for awhile now and I'm a bit suspicious. We have a few younger guys who claim to have sources within an org that is notorious about keeping a tight lid on things, and we have a fanbase that is desperate to have someone who "knows things". Honestly to say that Lou is shopping Bailey and Varlamov is tame, it makes sense. But I'm going to go ahead and urge caution when it comes to trusting any of these guys until they collect a win or two under their belts.
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Insubordination? It’s 2022, if someone comes out and says we called the islanders about Beau, and Lou then cuts that team off because he wanted them to keep it hush hush… that’s just absolutely asinine.
I’m not saying they absolutely deserve unquestioned trust. Like you said, islanders fans have been desperate for any information, but then when any does drop its immediately debunked because Lou absolutely doesn’t leak anything. Well, it’s entirely possible it wasn’t Lou with the leak.
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Where were those insiders on the assistant coaching rumor mill? Nowhere. Same with the new scout hiring. Nowhere.
If CHI wants to compete, then ok. However, not much about them says 'compete' and waste assets on Varly. But, clicks are good kids!
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I won't comment on the potential veracity of the rumor, but since it's CHI mentioned they have some interesting players (aside from Kane and Debrincat): Kubalik, Dach, McCabe, Connor Murphy (would open up a Mayfield trade), etc..
This is a different circumstance than what you responded to. I described if a leak came from inside the Islanders.
It’s Eklund. Nobody takes him seriously.
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I'm not getting it either, anything we'd want from Chicago is something they could move and get a return better than a veteran goalie who will be dealt at the deadline.
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Put this through google translation and I’m sure you get Sorokin to Chicago via Darren Dreger.
I'm thinking Lou would know first hand about what this kid is or isn't as an upcoming NHLer.
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Well regardless of the validity to the above report, especially when it comes to the Hawks being part of it- it would better serve the Islanders to move him before the Draft if they are intending to do so.
Unlike Beauvillier and Bailey where the compensation would "more than likely" be for another player and/or little if any draft compensation at all- I still think Semyon would net you the best draft asset(s)
Unlike Beauvillier and Bailey where the compensation would "more than likely" be for another player and/or little if any draft compensation at all- I still think Semyon would net you the best draft asset(s)
Colin White:
A forward who can play up the middle or on the wing, I've always thought of him as being a "Lamoriello" type. I remember working a U18 tourney in Switzerland where he captained Team USA - as an underager. That team included Matthews, Tkachuk, McAvoy, and Keller, to name a few. Just something to take note of...
Jesse Puljujarvi:
I don't really care what anyone in Oilerville says or has been saying, I heavily believe this kid is one of the gravest examples of needing a change of scenary in the league. I don't know what comes next for him and yes, Edmonton shouldn't be in a rush to move him (although they have a very strange forward dynamic that almost makes his true possibilities redundant), but I can see him very much ending up like Olli Jokinen in this league.
Almost to a T. There's a 70-point player there under the right circumstances. Will we ever see him in those circumstances???
Adding Paliafito:
Just in case anyone thought differently, I believe he's not necessarily being added to have any say in scouting with respect to the kids we draft or may sign out of college/junior as UFAs, be it for the Isles or BPort. But of major note is that in recent years, the Isles have done NOTHING with respect to signing UFAs out of Europe, something several other teams, with the Make Beliefs being one of the most active ones, do with regularity. As such, the signing is almost shocking, as you don't add a guy like this without the intention of adding more bodies from overseas via free agency. That's VERY interesting for our team, as this is a route yet untaken and may shine some light on what Lou is thinking about moving some current pieces and/or adding what often turn out to be "tradeable assets".
Again, some teams do this every single spring/summer and those who do it actively usually find a few guys here and there who help them out. Many of the 23-30-year old Europeans brought over were perhaps drafted but never signed by their respective NHL teams. Some played for every national team imaginable, but never got drafted. Others just come out of nowhere after 5-7 years of minimal roles. At times, they work. Few become "stars", as was the case with Panarin and several can really bomb despite fantastic European/Russian careers (i.e. Gusev and especially Shipachyov), but it's an excellent way to compensate for having very few draft picks. And anyone following has seen that we've not only had just 16 picks over the past three summers, and only have five this summer and six next summer.
And fact is, you look at the Tampas and Colorados of the league and you'll see that their stocked with stars they drafted of their own accord. After dishing out bevvies of picks for Pageau, Palmieri and the unloading of Ladd, this team has to start investing in selecting future performers while getting creative in supplementing and complementing the current StaCup aspirations.
This is a route to organizational depth that can make much of that easier and more palable.
Very excited to see what Paliafito means for this organization.
A forward who can play up the middle or on the wing, I've always thought of him as being a "Lamoriello" type. I remember working a U18 tourney in Switzerland where he captained Team USA - as an underager. That team included Matthews, Tkachuk, McAvoy, and Keller, to name a few. Just something to take note of...
Jesse Puljujarvi:
I don't really care what anyone in Oilerville says or has been saying, I heavily believe this kid is one of the gravest examples of needing a change of scenary in the league. I don't know what comes next for him and yes, Edmonton shouldn't be in a rush to move him (although they have a very strange forward dynamic that almost makes his true possibilities redundant), but I can see him very much ending up like Olli Jokinen in this league.
Almost to a T. There's a 70-point player there under the right circumstances. Will we ever see him in those circumstances???
Adding Paliafito:
Just in case anyone thought differently, I believe he's not necessarily being added to have any say in scouting with respect to the kids we draft or may sign out of college/junior as UFAs, be it for the Isles or BPort. But of major note is that in recent years, the Isles have done NOTHING with respect to signing UFAs out of Europe, something several other teams, with the Make Beliefs being one of the most active ones, do with regularity. As such, the signing is almost shocking, as you don't add a guy like this without the intention of adding more bodies from overseas via free agency. That's VERY interesting for our team, as this is a route yet untaken and may shine some light on what Lou is thinking about moving some current pieces and/or adding what often turn out to be "tradeable assets".
Again, some teams do this every single spring/summer and those who do it actively usually find a few guys here and there who help them out. Many of the 23-30-year old Europeans brought over were perhaps drafted but never signed by their respective NHL teams. Some played for every national team imaginable, but never got drafted. Others just come out of nowhere after 5-7 years of minimal roles. At times, they work. Few become "stars", as was the case with Panarin and several can really bomb despite fantastic European/Russian careers (i.e. Gusev and especially Shipachyov), but it's an excellent way to compensate for having very few draft picks. And anyone following has seen that we've not only had just 16 picks over the past three summers, and only have five this summer and six next summer.
And fact is, you look at the Tampas and Colorados of the league and you'll see that their stocked with stars they drafted of their own accord. After dishing out bevvies of picks for Pageau, Palmieri and the unloading of Ladd, this team has to start investing in selecting future performers while getting creative in supplementing and complementing the current StaCup aspirations.
This is a route to organizational depth that can make much of that easier and more palable.
Very excited to see what Paliafito means for this organization.
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I think Bailey would be dealt for picks and prospects, while Beauvillier would need to be dealt for a roster player. Agree with you about Varlamov being dealt before the draft too, partly because you want that deal done so you can get a backup via free agency ASAP.
Hockey player Ivan Fedotov who wanted to leave Russia to play for NHL will serve on Novaya Zemlya, TASS reports
Goalkeeper of the Russian national ice hockey team Ivan Fedotov will be sent to serve in the army on Novaya Zemlya after being detained in St
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Not sure where to put this but maybe keeping Varly is a real good idea for now..
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Yikes! That article names Sorokin directly.Hockey player Ivan Fedotov who wanted to leave Russia to play for NHL will serve on Novaya Zemlya, TASS reports
Goalkeeper of the Russian national ice hockey team Ivan Fedotov will be sent to serve in the army on Novaya Zemlya after being detained in St
Not sure where to put this but maybe keeping Varly is a real good idea for now..
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With the way things are in Russia why would he go back? If he just stayed here what would they do send the KGB here to bring him back?
Might be a better question for the league, I wonder if the possibility of this happening came up in discussion before the regular season ended.
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I see a lot written about moving small pieces thinking these little changes are what will be needed to
make us a real contender but my feeling is a block buster deal would be needed which could go one of 3 ways
1. Huge win on Lou's part that injected some "just ripe" young talent and opened up Cap space to UFA shop to fill any remaining hole
2. Changes 2 nickels for a dime and we are different not better
3. Huge loss on the deal and now need to rebuild completely
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At the end of the day, they are human and likely want to see family that some haven't seen for 12+ months. It's not like their contracts state they can't travel home in the offseason, even if the organization asked Russian players to stay stateside over the summer doesn't mean the players are contractually obligated to listen.
I'd be shocked if Varlamov is moved at the draft or this offseason with the possibility of Sorokin getting stuck in Russia lingering around.
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Who are we going to need to send to get him back - Jack Ryan, John McClane, Pete Mitchell, Rocky Balboa?
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