Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[SayItAintSoJohnny]

He does step it up in the playoffs, no arguing that. But call it a hunch, I think Boston signs him before July 1st and takes him off the market all together. They have the cap space (20 million+) and they likely get to unload Ullmark's 5 million....

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Debrusk on a 7 year, 5.75-6 million would be ideal for me.

 

[Throttle]

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DeBrusk is a more attractive asset from the playoff perspective in my opinion.

Ehlers on a highly skilled team has a whopping 4Gs in 37 playoff games. That’s a clear issue.

 

[mm11]

Debrusk for me, kid does play well in the spring and has tons of experience in big big games. Prob will be outbid from someone anyway as URFA is def not the Isles bag.

 

[Osakahaus]

DeBrusk feels like a buyer beware candidate to me

 

[impaaaaaact]

Legit curious how Rosner would know this for certain, much less report it, since basically every single trade Lou has done wasn't reported on even as the faintest of rumors before it was completed.

Just being around the Isles doesn't mean you know anything about Lou's inner workings.

It does say "multiple sources" and "the hockey news". it could have come from their Winnipeg guy

 

[WangMustGo]

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DeBrusk is a more attractive asset from the playoff perspective in my opinion.

I don’t love the idea of Ehlers, but I want no part of a Debrusk contract that is long term and high cost. He is a 3rd line winger that will be paid as a high end 2nd line winger. No thanks.

 

[doublechili]

Taking a deeper dive into the roster and what some possible moves to upgrade to F group -
This 20-man roster has about 4.7 m in cap space. Below is a breakdown of what they could do IF Lou Does NOT REMOVE ANY CURRENT NHL player from the roster.

Wahlstrom will either not be qualified or traded for a similar player, Ville Heinola comes to mind - who would only cost .875K for his QO - a similar hit to Wahlstrom. Gauthier will be buried.

Holmstrom and Maclean are both RFA's with no arbitration rights, which means all LL needs to do is Qualify them, so you can pen them down for a 1 year @ .875K for Holmstrom and 1 year @ .813 K Maclean (check CapFriendly - Qualifying offer in the calculator tab).

I am looking at building a 22-man roster -NOT a 23 -to maximize the 88m cap.

Forwards

• LW - ????, C - Horvat 8.5, RW - Barzal 9.15
• LW - Holmstrom .875, C - Nelson 6, RW - Palmieri 5
• LW - Lee 7, C - JGP 5, RW - Engvall 3
• LW - Maclean .813, C - Cizikas 2.5, RW - Tsyplakov .95
• F - Fasching .775

Defense

• D - Romanov 2.5 and Dobson 4
• D - Pelech 5.75 and Pulock 6.15
• D - Bolduc .8 and Mayfield 3.5
• D - ?????
• G - Sorokin 8.25
• G - Varlamov 2.75

Option #1 - TRADING 1st rounder at the DRAFT for an RFA - the Romanov deal
7 RFA players come to mind -
Shane Pinto (unlikely), Cole Perfetti (he's being dangled), Morgan Frost, Peyton Krebs (would not want to give up a 1st for him), Cole Sillinger, Kent Johnson (unlikely), and Kiril Marchenko

The contract for these 4 players would be about 2.35 to 3.25 for 2 seasons before a bigger deal, leaving enough $ to spend on a decent option on the blueline.

Option #2 - Trading 1st rounder at the Draft for established NHL player/top 6 or Top 6 potential -

• LL trades the 1st fin 2024 for Ehlers and another 2nd to a team like SJ to park some of the cap hit
• LL trades the 1st in 2024 for Yegor Sharangovich (3.1 AAV) or Frank Vatrano(3.6 AAV) for next season. Use the rest of the cap hit to sign a PMD man, Mike Reilly or potentially Jake Bean, who will most likely not be Qualified.
• LL trades the 1st in 2024 for Alex Newhook

Option #3 - TRADE the 1st for Chychrun

• LL trades the 1st in 2024 (+prospect) for Jakob Chychrun (4.6 AAV). Isles can fit the entire cap hit and then roll with a 21-man roster OR trade a pick to another team to take on 1m of the cap hit, so they could add another F - probably bargain hunt - Anthony Beauvillier, Dominik Kubalik, Alexander Barabanov, Ilya Mihkeyev -once he is bought out.

Option #4 - BARGAIN HUNT during free agency- Split the 4.7m amongst 3 UFAs

• LL signs - Jake Bean, LHD, Arvidsson, RW or Duclair, F

MY NEXT POST will be moving a player out to improve the roster

That is a lucid, intelligent, well-thought-out post.

 

[Tahoeblue]

Taking a deeper dive into the roster and what some possible moves to upgrade to F group -
This 20-man roster has about 4.7 m in cap space. Below is a breakdown of what they could do IF Lou Does NOT REMOVE ANY CURRENT NHL player from the roster.

Wahlstrom will either not be qualified or traded for a similar player, Ville Heinola comes to mind - who would only cost .875K for his QO - a similar hit to Wahlstrom. Gauthier will be buried.

Holmstrom and Maclean are both RFA's with no arbitration rights, which means all LL needs to do is Qualify them, so you can pen them down for a 1 year @ .875K for Holmstrom and 1 year @ .813 K Maclean (check CapFriendly - Qualifying offer in the calculator tab).

I am looking at building a 22-man roster -NOT a 23 -to maximize the 88m cap.

Forwards

• LW - ????, C - Horvat 8.5, RW - Barzal 9.15
• LW - Holmstrom .875, C - Nelson 6, RW - Palmieri 5
• LW - Lee 7, C - JGP 5, RW - Engvall 3
• LW - Maclean .813, C - Cizikas 2.5, RW - Tsyplakov .95
• F - Fasching .775

Defense

• D - Romanov 2.5 and Dobson 4
• D - Pelech 5.75 and Pulock 6.15
• D - Bolduc .8 and Mayfield 3.5
• D - ?????
• G - Sorokin 8.25
• G - Varlamov 2.75

Option #1 - TRADING 1st rounder at the DRAFT for an RFA - the Romanov deal
7 RFA players come to mind -
Shane Pinto (unlikely), Cole Perfetti (he's being dangled), Morgan Frost, Peyton Krebs (would not want to give up a 1st for him), Cole Sillinger, Kent Johnson (unlikely), and Kiril Marchenko

The contract for these 4 players would be about 2.35 to 3.25 for 2 seasons before a bigger deal, leaving enough $ to spend on a decent option on the blueline.

Option #2 - Trading 1st rounder at the Draft for established NHL player/top 6 or Top 6 potential -

• LL trades the 1st fin 2024 for Ehlers and another 2nd to a team like SJ to park some of the cap hit
• LL trades the 1st in 2024 for Yegor Sharangovich (3.1 AAV) or Frank Vatrano(3.6 AAV) for next season. Use the rest of the cap hit to sign a PMD man, Mike Reilly or potentially Jake Bean, who will most likely not be Qualified.
• LL trades the 1st in 2024 for Alex Newhook

Option #3 - TRADE the 1st for Chychrun

• LL trades the 1st in 2024 (+prospect) for Jakob Chychrun (4.6 AAV). Isles can fit the entire cap hit and then roll with a 21-man roster OR trade a pick to another team to take on 1m of the cap hit, so they could add another F - probably bargain hunt - Anthony Beauvillier, Dominik Kubalik, Alexander Barabanov, Ilya Mihkeyev -once he is bought out.

Option #4 - BARGAIN HUNT during free agency- Split the 4.7m amongst 3 UFAs

• LL signs - Jake Bean, LHD, Arvidsson, RW or Duclair, F

MY NEXT POST will be moving a player out to improve the roster

Wow. Is Cole Perfetti truly available?

 

[gojetsgo]

Wow. Is Cole Perfetti truly available?

no, he is not being "dangled"

 

[SI]

Wow. Is Cole Perfetti truly available?

Jets Rumors: Cole Perfetti Generating Trade Interest

After a disappointing playoff run, the Winnipeg Jets have some big decisions to make this summer. It is clear that some notable changes coul...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Just some smoke from Pagnotta a couple weeks ago.

 

[SayItAintSoJohnny]

Most of the Ehlers "struggling in the postseason argument" is a little skewed by his debut in the postseason as a 21-year old where he went scoreless in 15 games.

He certainly hasn't been on DeBrusks' level, but not as bad as peeps are making it out to be either...

It is still a 60-point (per 82) performer compared to someone who isn't even a 50-point performer in the regular season.

Hell, even DeBrusk's obviously superior postseason numbers (27-20-47 in 86 career games) are BELOW (45 points per 82) his rather meek regular season numbers (47 per 82)....

Ehlers for me, unless we can get DeBrusk for 5/30 or so (which isn't happening)

 

[leeroggy]

That is a lucid, intelligent, well-thought-out post.

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Mrs. Reilly, and ONLY Mrs. Reilly . . .

Trade for the two yutes! Or find a trade partner who gave Jack his magic beans . . .

 

[periferal]

Mrs. Reilly, and ONLY Mrs. Reilly . . .

Trade for the two yutes! Or find a trade partner who gave Jack his magic beans . . .

Ironically the Yotes are about to become the Utes.

What does it mean...?

Trade for Clayton Keller (before his NTC kicks in July 1st).

 

[YearlyLottery]

One thing I do not want to see and can totally see happening is Mike Rielly getting signed to anything longer than a two year deal.

 

[periferal]

One thing I do not want to see and can totally see happening is Mike Rielly getting signed to anything longer than a two year deal.

That's the ONE thing...? Any of Reilly, Clutterbuck, Martin, Bortuzzo, or Aho getting more than a 1 year deal isn't good. And probably most of them shouldn't even be given that.

And while we're at it, I'd rather see any of them resigned than Lou trading the 1st, yet again, for a middle-level talent. Enough of that shit. Go big or go home. Trading the 1st is fine, but only if it's that plus for a 1st line winger/top pair defenseman.

 

[YearlyLottery]

That's the ONE thing...? Any of Reilly, Clutterbuck, Martin, Bortuzzo, or Aho getting more than a 1 year deal isn't good. And probably most of them shouldn't even be given that.

And while we're at it, I'd rather see any of them resigned than Lou trading the 1st, yet again, for a middle-level talent. Enough of that shit. Go big or go home. Trading the 1st is fine, but only if it's that plus for a 1st line winger/top pair defenseman.

Sure none of those guys should be getting a contract at all though in my opinion. Would not mind if Clutterbuck got a 1 year deal at league minimum but the money should be used elsewhere. I agree with you.

 

[Tahoeblue]

Jets Rumors: Cole Perfetti Generating Trade Interest

After a disappointing playoff run, the Winnipeg Jets have some big decisions to make this summer. It is clear that some notable changes coul...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Just some smoke from Pagnotta a couple weeks ago.

Thank you

 

[doublechili]

Crazy thought to upgrade the top 4 D and get around the NTCs. Let Reilly walk. Move Pelech down to the 3rd pair with Mayfield. They can be the 1st PK pairing, so they can just fire the puck down the ice and it keeps the top 4 fresher. It's an expensive 3rd pair, but the 1st pair only will make $6M combined next year so it's workable. Trade for or sign a LH PMD for the 2nd pair. Then, on 7/1/25, Pelech's full NTC converts to a 16 team NTC, so trade him then. Probably overly complicated, but just a thought.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

DeBrusk feels like a buyer beware candidate to me

Isles need to get younger, faster and more skilled.

Jake DeBrusk might be available.

GOT TO HAVE

 

[seabass45]

LeBrun: Laine wants a fresh start and they're working on a trade

Unlikely to happen with a team in division but anyway...

 

[CupHolders]

LeBrun: Laine wants a fresh start and they're working on a trade

Unlikely to happen with a team in division but anyway...

Fuehring and small + for Laine should work. Let's go.

 

[PK Cronin]

LeBrun: Laine wants a fresh start and they're working on a trade

Unlikely to happen with a team in division but anyway...

I'd still take a chance on him.

 

[Osakahaus]

I do not want Laine

 

[PK Cronin]

I do not want Laine

He's a risk but if the price is right it's a risk worth taking. He's 26 and can score goals, something this team needs more of. I trust the veterans on this team to help him out with whatever off ice struggles he's had in the past.