Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[impaaaaaact]

Am I the only one who is starting to find Rosner's reporting a little annoying recently. Just as an example, he has spent the past week putting out article after article about the Isles adding, the Isles buying, how the Isles can sell and then use that to buy, numerous articles about trade deadline targets and so on and so on. Now this morning he puts out an article with literally the exact same quotes from Lou and now says maybe the best plan is to stand pat. It just feels like he puts out meaningless stuff that is written just to say he wrote something and then a day later puts out another piece that contradicts what he wrote the previous day. I liked him in the beginning but I have not been impressed with his work recently.

dude is a content machine but he's basically an HF poster with access to the dressing room. A lot of the things he says seem... uninformed. I'm sure he'll get better with time (he's like 25), but for now I'm not going to complain about having Isles content every day.

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Pinto and Chychrun c’mon - Lou

Isles can add both without surrendering Pageau and still be cap compliant

We really don't need Chychrun. The defense works right now

 

[saintunspecified]

There used to be a thread here comparing Nelson, Lee, and Bjugstad when they started playing college hockey.

A number of voices there were of the opinion that Bjugstad was clearly the best of the three and would have the most productive NHL career.

That alone makes it necessary that he plays for this team.

I was here. Shit makes me feel old.

 

[Metnut]

Our good friend Dom Luszczyszyn had a nice snippet on the Islanders in his weekly column today:

"
15. On Jan. 20, the Islanders’ playoff chances were 24 percent. They’re up to 60 percent now — call it the Patrick Roy effect.

Islanders fans were extremely vocal that Lane Lambert was holding a better-than-it-seems team back from its true potential. They were right on the money.

The big thing for me was how suddenly porous a usually stingy Islanders team looked all season. That’s the biggest thing that’s changed under Roy, as the team’s defensive game has been cleaned up considerably.

In 45 games under Lambert, the Islanders allowed 2.82 expected goals against per 60 at five-on-five (24th) and 9.82 on the penalty kill (25th). Private data actually felt that was generous to the team. Under Roy, things have shifted immensely. The penalty kill still isn’t strong, but it’s improved at least to 9.0 expected goals against per 60 (18th). The big ticket, though, is their chance suppression at five-on-five. Since Roy became the coach, the Islanders have allowed only 2.1 expected goals against per 60, a mark that leads the league.

That’s more like the Islanders we know and it’s propelled the team to an expected goals rate of 54 percent, a top-five mark. They look like they can do some damage come playoff time."

 

[PK Cronin]

So just curious who do you consider the best source for Isles news? It also used to be Gross, but I feel like half the time now he does not even attend practice or write anything on off-days anymore. The coverage of the team has just been awful.

Best source? I guess it depends what you're looking for. Staple used to be good but I stopped following him when he switched to the Rags beat. Kurz was someone I followed too but he's gone now. Gross is the only one left but I don't think he's very interesting. Generally following the big "insiders" and/or people employed by the team is what I follow and they break the news stories first anyway.

There's a pretty big hole right now with reporting on the Islanders so I don't waste my time reading bloggers or anything like that, we have plenty of that sort of posting on this website.

 

[Taswell]

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Pinto and Chychrun c’mon - Lou

Isles can add both without surrendering Pageau and still be cap compliant

Feel like Ott is more likely to move Giroux than Pinto, but what do I know?

 

[MJF]

Best source? I guess it depends what you're looking for. Staple used to be good but I stopped following him when he switched to the Rags beat. Kurz was someone I followed too but he's gone now. Gross is the only one left but I don't think he's very interesting. Generally following the big "insiders" and/or people employed by the team is what I follow and they break the news stories first anyway.

There's a pretty big hole right now with reporting on the Islanders so I don't waste my time reading bloggers or anything like that, we have plenty of that sort of posting on this website.

How do you get anything out of a Lou Lamoriello organization?

 

[crashthenet]

Is Bjugstad really much better than Martin at this point in his career? It seems like he struggles anywhere he goes other than Arizona.

He is actually having a pretty good year on a middling team but who knows. He didn't seem to do much when he was added to the Pens and Wild. He was decent down the stretch for EDM last year. I wouldn't turn my nose up at adding him, Matty to the pressbox or into a rotation. Would want to see a little retention. Same for someone like Eller. I am curious to see if Kunin is moved. Duclair a little too streaky for me.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Beau back with Trotz in NSH

 

[PK Cronin]

How do you get anything out of a Lou Lamoriello organization?

That's definitely part of it, the other is there's just a real lack of anyone even attempting to report on the Islanders.

 

[Glorydays22]

Beau back with Trotz in NSH

good for him....

 

[PK Cronin]

Beau back with Trotz in NSH

For a worse 5th rounder than they gave up to acquire him, bizarre.

 

[saintunspecified]

He is actually having a pretty good year on a middling team but who knows. He didn't seem to do much when he was added to the Pens and Wild. He was decent down the stretch for EDM last year. I wouldn't turn my nose up at adding him, Matty to the pressbox or into a rotation. Would want to see a little retention. Same for someone like Eller. I am curious to see if Kunin is moved. Duclair a little too streaky for me.

Thought about him, too. Dunno if he's the good bottom-6er he was before his ACL injury.

(And he's Jewish, and we all know that Jews break out in April.)

 

[PK Cronin]

 

[MJF]

That's definitely part of it, the other is there's just a real lack of anyone even attempting to report on the Islanders.

There’s still not much of a market for Isles info, or hockey in general from the NYC market.

Staple is now covering both the Isles and Rags for The Athletic. That illustrates how little demand there is to justify a separate beat writer for each team.

 

[PJGooch]

So just curious who do you consider the best source for Isles news? It also used to be Gross, but I feel like half the time now he does not even attend practice or write anything on off-days anymore. The coverage of the team has just been awful.

Anyone employed by a newspaper / The Athletic (owned by NYT). Call me old-fashioned I guess, but I'll take dull articles that are looked at by an actual editor over "insider" blog posts.

 

[crashthenet]

Thought about him, too. Dunno if he's the good bottom-6er he was before his ACL injury.

(And he's Jewish, and we all know that Jews break out in April.)

Lol.

Usually an injury that takes a while to comeback from. I always liked him.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Anyone employed by a newspaper / The Athletic (owned by NYT). Call me old-fashioned I guess, but I'll take dull articles that are looked at by an actual editor over "insider" blog posts.

I personally prefer to receive my insider knowledge from Dippin' Dots vendors

 

[Islesfan22]

I personally prefer to receive my insider knowledge from Dippin' Dots vendors

Still waiting for Tavares to sign an extension with the islanders lol oh the good old days.

 

[PK Cronin]

There’s still not much of a market for Isles info, or hockey in general from the NYC market.

Staple is now covering both the Isles and Rags for The Athletic. That illustrates how little demand there is to justify a separate beat writer for each team.

I don't think the old model is lucrative either so companies can't justify spending on a beat reporter for the secondar team in NY.

 

[doublechili]

It took you 18,338 posts to finally figure that out? Fast learner . . .

Haha. It's not new, but it's getting more pronounced. Like, it used to be annoying, but now it's becoming a "problem".

 

[doublechili]

For me, adding to the PK is the top priority. NYI need bottom 6ers for next year anyway

I've mentioned Yakov Trenin of NSH a couple of times as someone I'd be very interested in - 27 year old Russian (played junior hockey in the Q though) who hits, fights and PKs and can actually contribute a little on offense. And now I see this on TSN today:

"Predators forward Yakov Trenin is also generating interest, LeBrun reports, but it's not a sure thing the Predators move him. Trenin, 27, is a pending unrestricted free agent, signed at a cap hit of $1.7 million. He has 10 goals and 14 points in 60 games this season."

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[Taswell]

I've always liked Trenin, toolsy player. Different area of need, but I think Duclair is a prudent move, if bigger fish are out of reach and most likely are.

 

[The Real JT]

20 minutes left.

Could this be the year Lou doesn’t flip his first round pick? To be fair, I forgot about a draft day deal. Never mind.

 

[PK Cronin]

20 minutes left.

Could this be the year Lou doesn’t flip his first round pick? To be fair, I forgot about a draft day deal. Never mind.

20 minutes left until what? The deadline isn't until tomorrow.

 

[IslesNorway]

If Lou is serious about getting a third goalie, I bet he picks Raanta off waivers.