Roster Building XXII: Too Many Forwards, Hopefully One Cup

[Blueline Bomber]

I mean we have a few numbers that are soft retired at this point:

1
3
9
12
30

90

 

[To Be Determined]

i'm ok with 12 getting retired, if they raise it to the rafters and about 3/4s of the way up it just stops. then in the offseason when it realizes what the hockey world actually thinks of it, it can rededicate itself and make it the rest of the way.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

i'm ok with 12 getting retired, if they raise it to the rafters and about 3/4s of the way up it just stops. then in the offseason when it realizes what the hockey world actually thinks of it, it can rededicate itself and make it the rest of the way.

It gets raised to the rafters, stops halfway, gets #59 put up next to it, then raises the rest of the way.

 

[Wolfpuck]

I mean we have a few numbers that are soft retired at this point:

1
3
9
12
30

This is Jamie Storr erasure.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I mean we have a few numbers that are soft retired at this point:

1
3
9
12
30

1 I think is just out of style (because its been retired in so many places).

I’m a little surprised they've kept with #9 especially with Dundon in charge now.

63 hasn’t and shouldn’t be issued either.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

1 I think is just out of style (because its been retired in so many places).

I’m a little surprised they've kept with #9 especially with Dundon in charge now.

63 hasn’t and shouldn’t be issued either.

Dwight Helminen in 2009 wore 63.

 

[WreckingCrew]

1 I think is just out of style (because its been retired in so many places).

I’m a little surprised they've kept with #9 especially with Dundon in charge now.

63 hasn’t and shouldn’t be issued either.

What about 69?

 

[DaveG]

Dwight Helminen in 2009 wore 63.

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but hasn't been since 2011 for good reason

 

[Blueline Bomber]

but hasn't been since 2011 for good reason

My mistake. I thought the plane crash happened before Helminen.

 

[AD Skinner]

Actually, looking at Hockey Reference, Aaron Dell apparently picked #30 in the very short time he was here. Whether that actually mattered or not is up to interpretation.

And he never made it into a game. Coincidence?

 

[Chrispy]

And he never made it into a game. Coincidence?

Sounds like that was a deep deep deep deep….miscalculation.

 

[Joe McGrath]

My mistake. I thought the plane crash happened before Helminen.

Yeah I’m pretty sure they give 62, 64-67 out every prospect camp.

I’m not familiar with other organizations “unofficial” retired lists. The Canes is pretty long fir only being around 25ish years.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Not popular, but I wouldn't have a problem giving out most of the soft retired numbers.

 

[Svechhammer]

I think a lot are going to be surprised. If Ward didn't get his jersey retired, Eric won't.

I've always assumed they'd get their numbers retired either at the same time or on back to back nights.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I've always assumed they'd get their numbers retired either at the same time or on back to back nights.

Maybe, but if I were a betting man, I’d say it’s much more likely they both remain in the HoF thing we’ve got going on. They’re both very good players for us that were very important to the franchise at its (current) top moment, but I don’t think they reach RBA/Francis level. Maybe they reach Wesley-level, but I’ve always been 50/50 on his jersey getting retired in the first place. If we had the HoF established when we retired it, I imagine he’d be there instead.

Not popular, but I wouldn't have a problem giving out most of the soft retired numbers.

I’d agree with that. Establish a grace period where they remain soft retired (maybe 10 years?), then put them back in rotation. We know #30 is a very popular goalie number, so it’s strange to prevent goalies from wearing it, but not actually retire the jersey.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Maybe, but if I were a betting man, I’d say it’s much more likely they both remain in the HoF thing we’ve got going on. They’re both very good players for us that were very important to the franchise at its (current) top moment, but I don’t think they reach RBA/Francis level. Maybe they reach Wesley-level, but I’ve always been 50/50 on his jersey getting retired in the first place. If we had the HoF established when we retired it, I imagine he’d be there instead.



I’d agree with that. Establish a grace period where they remain soft retired (maybe 10 years?), then put them back in rotation. We know #30 is a very popular goalie number, so it’s strange to prevent goalies from wearing it, but not actually retire the jersey.

Is 30 a popular goalie # anymore? The only starter who wears it that I can think of is Sorokin. Theres probavly some out west I’m not thinking of.

Edit: I just looked it up on Hockey-Reference and it has Ty Smith wearing 24 for the Canes and Jarvis had it all year. I’m guessing that Dell as #30 never happened.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Servelli today:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813602057439580660

 

[User13452]

Servelli today:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813602057439580660

Lots of cap space now. May even have Fast on ltir which would add another 2 million. Still need to make a move for another centre imo. Not sure I see a fit for Drury on the roster unless KK is moved

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Servelli today:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813602057439580660

I still think it's such a strange move for Kuznetsov to essentially walk away from 6M dollars. He must be getting a huge amount of under-the-table money considering it is SKA.

 

[spockBokk]

Lots of cap space now. May even have Fast on ltir which would add another 2 million. Still need to make a move for another centre imo. Not sure I see a fit for Drury on the roster unless KK is moved

Laine at 50%…

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Laine at 50%…

Or, alternatively, now we can get our bad boy Jarvis signed for 8 years instead of a bridge.

 

[Buenos Necas]

I'm still curious about the cap implications of the $2m in bonus he received from us and the Caps on July 1. Unless he agreed to not receive the bonus or otherwise paid it back, not sure how you could pay a player money and not have it count against the cap.

But hey, I'll take the free $3.9m in cap space any day. Let's get Jarvis locked down for 8-years now.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Lots of cap space now. May even have Fast on ltir which would add another 2 million. Still need to make a move for another centre imo. Not sure I see a fit for Drury on the roster unless KK is moved

Hard part is figuring out what the cap space is (at least for me). Capwages says $5,949,167, puckmedia says $11,681,667 including Kuzy.

 

[Ole Gil]

This is a situation where I'd feel better if Waddell were still here.

Seems like the Canes have been in this spot a bunch of times in recent years, and the front office pulled a rabbit out of its hat over and over. Hopefully, that wasn't all Don's doing because we could use another rabbit or two.

Trochek, Burns, Orlov, Pacioretty, etc...

 

[User13452]

Hard part is figuring out what the cap space is (at least for me). Capwages says $5,949,167, puckmedia says $11,681,667 including Kuzy.

Its over 11 the 5 million you are seeing on cap wages right now is including guys who will be ahl bound that’s why its showing 5 million