Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVII: It's the Final Countdown

[GoAwayPanarin]

not sure where this is coming from but hope he pays a lot so the Rangers get at least compensation for ADA. Working the CBA 101.

Hopefully somebody will offer RFA Strome what some fans apparently want to prematurely offer without even flexing arbitration.

I don't think Bergavin would hand out a contract that the Rangers wouldn't be willing to match.

 

[RangerBoy]

A player agent texted Pierre LeBrun after hearing the NHL cap projection. The agent thinks the NHL cap projection is too high. Where is the revenue increase to justify the proposed cap increase? HRR will increase between 2%-3%. The agent believes the cap will be set at $83.5M. $2M increase. The NHL is using the full 5%. The players agreed to 1.3% inflator for this season.

 

[Kovalev27]

the thing I don't understand is that part of what pushed the Strome's chemistry with Panarin narrative so hard is simply the fact that like no other center has played significant minutes with him. Especially Chytil, where at least on paper, their skillsets are a perfect match. I know that even Quinn's fans agree on the criticism that for a supposed development coach in a development year, he really likes not playing young players in unfamiliar situations and is just as conservative as any other NHL coach when it comes to creative line combos and setups (like playing Ryan f***ing Strome on the PK which to this day boggles my mind). Like wasn't that the whole point of this year? To see what our players can do in different setups?

Oh unless of course you're Brett Howden, who can roundhouse kick Shesterkin in the neck and still get his 14 minutes a night.

If your talking to me personally about Chytil vs Strome you’re the preaching to the choir. I would have put Strome on the third line a long time ago personally.

 

[Raspewtin]

If your talking to me personally about Chytil vs Strome you’re the preaching to the choir. I would have put Strome on the third line a long time ago personally.

Definitely not talking about you personally your post was just a convenient springboard haha

 

[Kovalev27]

I don't think Bergavin would hand out a contract that the Rangers wouldn't be willing to match.

maybe they’ll do us a favor like they did the canes last summer with Aho.

 

[DutchShamrock]

2 1sts, DeAngelo, Strome, Krav, Lias is an insane package for Barkov, like horrifically insane.



If Hoff didn't have his crazy baggage and we weren't all about CHARACTER and LEADERSHIP(!) he would have been a perfect fit for Panarin's line.

I'm not sure Hoffman's baggage is legit. There is enough evidence to refute the original claims, and it's possible the whole thing is a misunderstanding or a smear job. There hasn't been a peep out of south Florida since he got there and the dude scores.

His value may be suppressed by the rumors, and could be a great add this off season.

 

[Kovalev27]

I'm not sure Hoffman's baggage is legit. There is enough evidence to refute the original claims, and it's possible the whole thing is a misunderstanding or a smear job. There hasn't been a peep out of south Florida since he got there and the dude scores.

His value may be suppressed by the rumors, and could be a great add this off season.

from what I’ve heard EK’s wife is every bit the nightmare as has been rumored. Don’t think it’s the Hoffmans frankly who got the heat.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I don't think Bergavin would hand out a contract that the Rangers wouldn't be willing to match.

we’ll see. The point is flexing the rules under the CBA in regards to a RFA. Hence, this ambition to extend a Strome prematurely as if he’s the end all as if the market across the NHL will remain stagnant. We know the market never remains stagnant and I believe when you have prospects and pieces you increase the likelihood of acquiring what you want or need.

 

[charliemurphy]

Where is this rumor?

I don't think he would dare. His motivations for the Aho OS was built around the thought that Carolina couldn't afford the Signing Bonus dollars. We don't have that problem here.

Read it over in the main boards. Take it for whats worth.
Rumor is Bergevin will offer sheet one of Barzal, Pierre-Luc Dubois, Sergachev or TDA. Rationale being he messed up the Aho offer and needs to make a splash this off-season.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I'd probably match any offersheet for DeAngelo up until 7.5 million

As much as I like him, having two RD making close to 16 million is a lot

 

[Avery16]

Main board rumors...we all better get tested.

 

[charliemurphy]

I don't think Bergavin would hand out a contract that the Rangers wouldn't be willing to match.

Guess it would depend if he's on the hot seat or not. I'm not on board with moving TDA unless its a really good offer. Having said that Bergevin will need to make a big move.

 

[Fugazy]

Main board rumors...we all better get tested.

Yeah....I wouldn't recommend diving into those.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I'd probably match any offersheet for DeAngelo up until 7.5 million

As much as I like him, having two RD making close to 16 million is a lot

then you can add on Fox in a few years along the rest of the kids and fit them snuggly under a $130 million dollar cap.

 

[charliemurphy]

Main board rumors...we all better get tested.

Again, take it for what its worth
NHL Rumours: Montreal Canadiens, New York Rangers -

 

[True Blue]

Thoughts on the Bergevin rumor about possibly placing an offer sheet on TDA?
If that were to happen, what would the Rangers expect to get in compensation?

Let him. That would be fantastic. He is not going to do it at $7-$8m. So he will do so at $6? Which is what we have been bantering about. Gorton will match and then you have DeAngelo locked up with no NTC/NMC

 

[True Blue]

Definitely not talking about you personally your post was just a convenient springboard haha

I know, I know. Anyone can do it. Let’s just ignore the obvious chemistry that they show. Let’s also ignore that with Strome, Panarin is completely obliterating all of his precious records. Let’s also ignore that Chytil is not even putting up points the way that Strome did last year from the same bottom 6 position.

I know. Let’s instead pretend that anyone can be put as Panarin’s center and they will all magically be transformed into a player that is trending toward 70 points. After all, anyone can do it.

 

[charliemurphy]

Let him. That would be fantastic. He is not going to do it at $7-$8m. So he will do so at $6? Which is what we have been bantering about. Gorton will match and then you have DeAngelo locked up with no NTC/NMC

Count me in. I just wouldn't rule out Bergevin doing something big be it at the draft since its held there this year or whenever. I was wondering if Skjei being traded to Montreal was ever a possibility but guess that ship has already sailed.

 

[kovazub94]

He'd probably do what he did to Aho last year with a 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 1st and 3rd

NNUAL AVERAGE (AAV) VALUE	COMPENSATION	REQUIREMENTS MET	REQUIREMENTS NOT MET
$0 - $1,395,053	No Compensation
$1,395,054 - $2,113,716	1 Third Round Pick
$2,113,717 - $4,227,437	1 Second Round Pick
$4,227,438 - $6,341,152	1 First Round Pick 1 Third Round Pick
$6,341,153 - $8,454,871	1 First Round Pick 1 Second Round Pick 1 Third Round Pick
$8,454,872 - $10,568,589	2 First Round Picks 1 Second Round Pick 1 Third Round Pick
$10,568,590 - ∞	4 First Round Picks

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

From the Rangers perspective, if ADA were to sign an offer sheet up to $6.3m the Rangers would gladly match it both from the salary point as well as the low compensation. In the next range the Rangers would still think that compensation is not enticing but the front office would need to figure out if something closer to the $8.4 upper limit is not excessive. This is where they might negotiate a better return with a team extending OS. However if this hypothetical goes in to over $8.5m range then I think the Rangers would fold.

 

[eco's bones]

I'm excited about Chytil's future but he hasn't earned his way into a top 6 slot in our lineup yet. Strome at this point is more of an offensive factor than Chytil is and he has chemistry with Panarin.

 

[Off Sides]

~8.4M x 5 for a young top 10 defender in scoring is probably cap space well spent. Just a little over Trouba.

The compensation, I like picks as much as anyone but if I had no plans on rebuilding, needed that sort of player/position, and was stuck in the middle, I'd trade a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for that type of defender.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

~8.4M x 5 for a young top 10 defender in scoring is probably cap space well spent. Just a little over Trouba.

The compensation, I like picks as much as anyone but if I had no plans on rebuilding, needed that sort of player/position, and was stuck in the middle, I'd trade a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for that type of defender.

Is this Glen Sather?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Nah, GM of a minor midget team.

 

[Raspewtin]

I know, I know. Anyone can do it. Let’s just ignore the obvious chemistry that they show.

I didn't say this, anywhere, actually.

Let’s also ignore that with Strome, Panarin is completely obliterating all of his precious records.

Let’s also ignore that Chytil is not even putting up points the way that Strome did last year from the same bottom 6 position.

What's your point?

I know. Let’s instead pretend that anyone can be put as Panarin’s center and they will all magically be transformed into a player that is trending toward 70 points. After all, anyone can do it.

K

 

[kovazub94]

I know, I know. Anyone can do it. Let’s just ignore the obvious chemistry that they show. Let’s also ignore that with Strome, Panarin is completely obliterating all of his precious records. Let’s also ignore that Chytil is not even putting up points the way that Strome did last year from the same bottom 6 position.

I know. Let’s instead pretend that anyone can be put as Panarin’s center and they will all magically be transformed into a player that is trending toward 70 points. After all, anyone can do it.

"On paper" hypothetical vs actual performance.