Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVII: It's the Final Countdown

[Thirty One]

All Panarin really needs on his right wing is a Matt Moulson/Jonathan Cheechoo/Petr Prucha type.

A pure finisher. Doesn't really need to be good at anything else.

I would like to see Gauthier given an opportunity there.

If the cost is reasonable (which it won't be) I would love to see what Hoffman could do there.

 

[Fitzy]

I would like to see Gauthier given an opportunity there.

Gautheir, Kravtsov, or even a guy like Wayne Simmonds if he'd take a 1 year deal at less than 2 million.

 

[LokiDog]

I think Gauthier could eventually be Panarin’s guy. Not a top six guy on his own merit but fast and powerful with a true goal scorers instinct and finishing ability. Kravstov could potentially fill the role as well, depending on how shot averse he is when he gets up here. If Gauthier grows to be that fit, that’s a major win for us. He doesn’t have to be a true top sixer to be a monster finishing on Panarin’s other wing. He has the tools.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Not sure if anyone has said something bout this yet but according to Friedman in 31 thoughts the Panthers may consider breaking up their core. If thats true, I would love to know what it would cost to get Barkov. Would Kravtsov Deangelo Strome Lias and both our firsts this year get it done or is that too little?
31 Thoughts: How Marc Bergevin sees Canadiens' present, future - Sportsnet.ca

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Not sure if anyone has said something bout this yet but according to Friedman in 31 thoughts the Panthers may consider breaking up their core. If thats true, I would love to know what it would cost to get Barkov. Would Kravtsov Deangelo Strome Lias and both our firsts this year get it done or is that too little?
31 Thoughts: How Marc Bergevin sees Canadiens' present, future - Sportsnet.ca

I dont think they would trade Barkov. Hoffman, Huberdeau, Ekblad i think they would try to move first. Not re-sign Dadanov.

Edit: wow I didn't realize Hoffman was a UFA at year end too.

 

[motopanekeku]

I think Gauthier could eventually be Panarin’s guy. Not a top six guy on his own merit but fast and powerful with a true goal scorers instinct and finishing ability. Kravstov could potentially fill the role as well, depending on how shot averse he is when he gets up here. If Gauthier grows to be that fit, that’s a major win for us. He doesn’t have to be a true top sixer to be a monster finishing on Panarin’s other wing. He has the tools.

Gauthier is a guy you want on your fourth maybe third line when we're ready to contend.

 

[Leetch3]

whats the line between “protecting rookies” and “throwing the game because you’re not playing your best players”?

great point. on a rebuilding team the coach should definitely put a false belief that this is a playoff team over the development of 2 of the top young dmen

 

[SA16]

The coach's job is to win games.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Gautheir, Kravtsov, or even a guy like Wayne Simmonds if he'd take a 1 year deal at less than 2 million.

Simmonds can barely move anymore.

 

[aufheben]

Not sure if anyone has said something bout this yet but according to Friedman in 31 thoughts the Panthers may consider breaking up their core. If thats true, I would love to know what it would cost to get Barkov. Would Kravtsov Deangelo Strome Lias and both our firsts this year get it done or is that too little?
31 Thoughts: How Marc Bergevin sees Canadiens' present, future - Sportsnet.ca

I have a rule of thumb: if your trade proposal includes more than 2-3 assets, it's not enough for one player.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Not sure if anyone has said something bout this yet but according to Friedman in 31 thoughts the Panthers may consider breaking up their core. If thats true, I would love to know what it would cost to get Barkov. Would Kravtsov Deangelo Strome Lias and both our firsts this year get it done or is that too little?
31 Thoughts: How Marc Bergevin sees Canadiens' present, future - Sportsnet.ca

Barkov is a very good player but thats a lot to give up. Take ADA out and I would do it.

 

[Leetch3]

The coach's job is to win games.

that's not true. this is a rebuild david quinn's job is to develop the young players. if winning this year was a priority brady skjei would still be a ranger right now. anyone that thinks that david quinn isn't trying to win games isn't paying attention but if it comes down to making a choice winning individual games right now isn't and shouldn't be the priority

 

[Leetch3]

Barkov is a very good player but thats a lot to give up. Take ADA out and I would do it.

so remove the only player with real value that we'd be giving up lol

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

2 1sts, DeAngelo, Strome, Krav, Lias is an insane package for Barkov, like horrifically insane.

I dont think they would trade Barkov. Hoffman, Huberdeau, Ekblad i think they would try to move first. Not re-sign Dadanov.

Edit: wow I didn't realize Hoffman was a UFA at year end too.

If Hoff didn't have his crazy baggage and we weren't all about CHARACTER and LEADERSHIP(!) he would have been a perfect fit for Panarin's line.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

so remove the only player with real value that we'd be giving up lol

You want to give them half the team? It's not Mcdavid we are talking about. You would still be giving up a 1st rounder in Kravtsov who has value and could be a very good player, a 26 yo center in Strome who is on pace for 70 points, and 2 1st rounders in a deep draft plus another asset in Lias. I think thats enough.

 

[NYSPORTS]

would love to know what it would cost to get Barkov. Would Kravtsov Deangelo Strome Lias and both our firsts this year get it done or is that too little?
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throw in Miller and Georgiev too.

 

[SA16]

that's not true. this is a rebuild david quinn's job is to develop the young players. if winning this year was a priority brady skjei would still be a ranger right now. anyone that thinks that david quinn isn't trying to win games isn't paying attention but if it comes down to making a choice winning individual games right now isn't and shouldn't be the priority

Brady Skjei not being on the team is a function of Gorton not Quinn. As is development like that. If the coach doesn't try to win what's going to happen is he will eventually get fired, have a reputation for being a bad coach, and not get another job.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

throw in Miller and Georgiev too.

Sure, let's throw in Panarin and Mika too. All for a guy that has 4 more points than Strome.

 

[mas0764]

Is he putting up 70 without Panarin? Of course not. However, he is putting up 70 points which I think we can agree is nothing to sneeze at. Are we criticizing guys for having chemistry? Straka excelled with Jagr... did we say screw Straka- he’s only this good because of Jagr... or did we say these guys have chemistry together and make each other better - let’s keep this going. Panarin is having his best statistical year to date so why are we dumping the guy he’s performing with? Drop him off the roster and which guy is a slam dunk to equal his chemistry with Panarin or point production? He’s a perfect age to be a vet on this team and should be in or entering his prime. Listen, if he has an unrealistic number like 6 x 6 in mind then goodbye. If he says I’ve played in the tri state area for awhile, I’m in a great professional situation, and I’m happy so I’d like to stay and will take 4.5 for 3-4 years then why in gods name wouldn’t you take it? His point totals would be a bargain at that price.

I’m open to keeping Strome on a good value deal but I’m also open to trading him if I can get a haul.

 

[haohmaru]

Sounds like you didn't read the rest of what I wrote where I discussed that. Good talk.

I read your entire post and just addressed the unnecessarily snarky part of it. Thanks for playing.

 

[Joey Bones]

Not sure if anyone has said something bout this yet but according to Friedman in 31 thoughts the Panthers may consider breaking up their core. If thats true, I would love to know what it would cost to get Barkov. Would Kravtsov Deangelo Strome Lias and both our firsts this year get it done or is that too little?
31 Thoughts: How Marc Bergevin sees Canadiens' present, future - Sportsnet.ca

Barkov is going nowhere, it'll be Hoffmann, Huberdeau, etc. Possibly Ekblad....

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Sure, let's throw in Panarin and Mika too. All for a guy that has 4 more points than Strome.

That right there shows you how points can be misleading man, because Strome isn’t in Barkov’s stratosphere.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

That right there shows you how points can be misleading man, because Strome isn’t in Barkov’s stratosphere.

He's not, I just find it funny. I'm certainly not giving up half the team for him either.

 

[bobbop]

The Looney is at 75 cents to a US dollar. Hard to see a big revenue percentage increase for the league with Canadian revenue at that level.

 

[bobbop]

Scandella might be a cheap LD with some bite who could fill in for a year or two until the cavalry gets here.