Machinehead
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People keep shooing Othmann into a top six role when he's a worse prospect than a handful of guys who couldn't stick there.
Roster Building Thread V (2022-23): Cheese and WINE
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Crease
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After waiting four seasons for Laf, Kakko and Chytil to become contributors, you would think we’d know better.
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Yeah, and only half play the boards consistently, many don't play as many minutes, and many don't play in a system like the Rangers that bleeds opportunities and zone controls; and plenty don't play nearly as many games as Schneider did
LaffyTaffy13
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Nah didnt forget kreider. Would only need to move chytil and trouba
AUSTON MATTHEWS!!! haha
Wouldnt need to
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I’d rather move Trouba too but I would move Kreider if I had to no questions asked.
The Gloaming
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Unironically yes because Kreider has shown interest in playing hockey in the spring while Matthews is more interested in hanging out with Bieber, being a celebrity, and flashing his ass to security guards.
BobMarleyNYR
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The Gloaming
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Mcdavid isn't going around looking for celebrity attention all the time. He is actually obsessed with hockey. Is that hard to grasp?
Move mountains to get Mcdavid, sure. But not Matthews.
haohmaru
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Of course you would. You'd have ~28M tied up just for just 3 centers (13.5, 8.5, 5.6).
LaffyTaffy13
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Is there a rule against that?
Assuming in 2024-2025 season the cap is around 88mm
Panarin (11.6) -Mika (8.5) -Chytil (4.4)
Laff (3) -Matthews (12.5)-Kakko (4)
Kreider (6.5)-trocheck (5.6) -othmann (elc)
Cuylle (elc)-bjugstad (1.5) -vesey (800)
Lindgren (4)-fox(9.5)
Kandre (4)-schneider(2.2)
Jones (850)-vet 6d (justin schultz) (1.25)
That would be under the cap. In fact you might not even have to trade chytil looking at it now, just trouba. And then move chytil to wing which I think hed be a natural RW which solves a big issue for you.
If you wouldnt sign up for that 2024-2025 lineup youre smoking crack
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Going around looking for attention doesn’t make him any less of a hockey player, and he’s a great one. You move out Trouba types to get Matthews types all day every day and it’s not even a debate.
The Gloaming
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What kind of contract is he going to be looking for? 13 million? More? He'll want to be the highest paid player until McDavid is renewed. That is too much for him - there are many centers I take over him for the playoffs, even if he sets the Rangers single season record for goals.
LaffyTaffy13
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Probably 8 x 12.5-13 and you give it to hi if it results in this. You have to be insane to balk at this
Assuming in 2024-2025 season the cap is around 88mm
Panarin (11.6) -Mika (8.5) -Chytil (4.4)
Laff (3) -Matthews (12.5)-Kakko (4)
Kreider (6.5)-trocheck (5.6) -othmann (elc)
Cuylle (elc)-bjugstad (1.5) -vesey (800)
Lindgren (4)-fox(9.5)
Kandre (4)-schneider(2.2)
Jones (850)-vet 6d (justin schultz) (1.25)
Igor (5.66)
2G (1)
The Gloaming
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Schneider is a train wreck. Shooting ability is not our weakness. Our weakness is PMD. Our weakness is transition and NZ play. Matthews doesn't address our weakness.
Yes the roster looks great on paper but are we ignoring Matthew's playoff problems? Kreider scores more big goals in his sleep than Matthews does. He has no business doing so considering how much more talented Matthews is.
There is ZERO chance Matthews ends up here.
Stop it guys.
Stop it guys.
LaffyTaffy13
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What are matthews playoff problems? That his team has never had a goalie?
This is like saying were we ignoring hanks playoff problems
The Gloaming
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I'm not talking about his team - I'm talking about him specifically. Big games - he doesn't show up. He seems content with early playoff exits and having an extended summer.
LaffyTaffy13
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LOL. Ok. Right.
You realize outside of his first two seasons which he was teenager he is over a ppg player in the playoffs, right?
You realize we dont have one of those right?
SA16
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The Gloaming
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We don't? So far Adam Fox has a bigger playoff PPG than Matthews. A defenseman.
PPG ain't what it used to be either. Even playoffs are a higher scoring affair now.
Look, it's hard to figure out which player(s) specifically are at fault for the mess that happens in Toronto every April, but I don't want anything to do with any of these players. They have choked away too many series.
Also my point about Matthews not being a play driver stands. Marner is responsible for over half his career goals. I stand by that. I'm not paying 14 million for a complementary piece.
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I mean, this argument is compelling but there is more to it. Fox is elite at avoiding contact, but he’s also playing mostly against players who are trying to score as opposed to hit. Also, it’s pretty likely that Schneider just likes getting physical in both directions. I don’t think getting hit a lot is a direct comment on hockey IQ.
haohmaru
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KAM and Lindgren @ 4M is crazy optimistic.
Where’s Igor and the back up salary?
Where’s the spare D?
Also, the above is actually a worse team than we’re fielding today. Demonstrably worse.
I don’t think the object is to take steps backwards.
Crack. Okay.
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