Why are we keeping rooney?
Thats just wasted money.
Thats just wasted money.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXV
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McRanger92
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I like Rooney's size and willingness to go to the net, but Brodzinski can fill his role for loose change next year. That was a smart extension by Drury
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It doesn't really bother me if a bunch of mentally weak homers are offended by unconventional approaches, not that I understand why it's so unrealistic to advocate that if push came to shove we should choose our second overall pick over an overpaid bottom liner.
Doing things the way that Dolan has seen fit to do them hasn't worked for us for the past two and a half decades.
Even if it doesn't happen because the team doesn't want to do it, I don't know why that would require ignoring. Ignoring is for babies. Message boards are for debate, not echo chambers.
Also, it's not half, it's like the the group of ten posters who are the biggest whiners.
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leetch99
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LOL...I'm still holding out hope for Gauthier to be back. I still think Turk can find the start switch on his motor giving some time . He would be cheaper then Rooney and all the rest except for Brodz.....Gaut @6ft4 230 pounds and fast..I would not throw in the towel just yet .
Boris Zubov
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I like a few players who are on the outs with their current teams.
Noel Acciari. He has missed most of this season with a torn pectoral muscle suffered in pre-season which required surgery. Acciari has played only 14 games this season. Elliotte Friedman reported Acciari was being discussed in trades prior to the trading deadline. His base salary is $1.5M this season. $1.666,667 cap hit. Who knows what type of contract Acciari will get this summer coming off his injury? It's a tough market too. 1 year contract. $1M-$1.2M. Acciari was a Swiss army knife type of player prior to his injury.
Sam Steel. He played under his QO this season. $874,125. I read the Ducks might not qualify him this summer or they might look to move his rights. Steel needs to reinvent his game as a role player. He isn't a top 6 forward. He was used on the PK in junior hockey and on the Canadian WJC teams. He is good on face-offs. 52%. Very good skater. 4th line center. Maybe Steel can play with Lafreniere on the 3rd line.
Noel Acciari. He has missed most of this season with a torn pectoral muscle suffered in pre-season which required surgery. Acciari has played only 14 games this season. Elliotte Friedman reported Acciari was being discussed in trades prior to the trading deadline. His base salary is $1.5M this season. $1.666,667 cap hit. Who knows what type of contract Acciari will get this summer coming off his injury? It's a tough market too. 1 year contract. $1M-$1.2M. Acciari was a Swiss army knife type of player prior to his injury.
Sam Steel. He played under his QO this season. $874,125. I read the Ducks might not qualify him this summer or they might look to move his rights. Steel needs to reinvent his game as a role player. He isn't a top 6 forward. He was used on the PK in junior hockey and on the Canadian WJC teams. He is good on face-offs. 52%. Very good skater. 4th line center. Maybe Steel can play with Lafreniere on the 3rd line.
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Exactly. But I'm the one who doesn't live in reality.
But moving Kakko, that's just good business according to some.
MrAlmost
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I dont think Rooney is back. You can save some cap by just using Brod. That extra million would likely need to be used to give Copp $5 and maybe Vatrano $3. Then a 7th D for cheap, likely Tinordi since he is here and cheap. Then maybe as the team accrues Cap they make a trade for a depth D if a young D doesnt step up and another depth forward.
Also, I doubt Kravtsov is on the team. But overall, that isnt a bad lineup to start the year minus Rooney.
It doesn't even have to be Brodz (Who I prefer too), there will be dozens of players who will be available for less than what Rooney will get who are better players. He was pretty good considering his role last season, hes been straight ass this season and I would be pretty pissed if we spent money to bring him back.
McRanger92
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I don't care if it bothers you I'm just telling you how it is. The truth is youve been spamming the boards all year telling us how much the team sucks and they arent building the right way, yet here we are with a playoff spot & 100 pt season clinched with 9 games to go in the season. You may irrationally hate Dolan & Drury, but theyve done exactly what they set out to do.
I try not to take the bait, but you need to take your L for this season
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I still think we are short of where we need to be for a realistic "now" window and we're in danger of being short for a later window also. I'm extremely concerned about the latter, really.
McRanger92
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I think the bottom 6 will have a lot of bodies next year and be a somewhat open competition. Goodrow, Reaves, Chytil, Blais, Hunt, Brodz, Trivigno, Cuylle, Othmann, Pajuniemi are all under team control, and that's before making outside additions or signing any of our own UFAs.
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I never said the team sucks. I said I don't think it's in the group of true contenders like Tampa, Carolina and Colorado who have the realest chances to win the Cup.
In fact, it's been my greatest concern that we are now too good to be bad enough to get the assets we need. I'm afraid we get stuck in 2014-15 Rangersland again.
And yes, I continue to think Drury and Dolan have taken the wrong approach in this regard. Especially in relation to Kravtsov and taking the necessary steps to acquire another young center or two.
And as I've said many times, fix those two issues and I'm all aboard.
I'm not gonna sit here and shut up just because some are too sensitive to tolerate a different advocacy. But I do know that homers often interpret criticism of the team's move as hating the team and in their view if you don't back everything the team does you aren't a real fan.
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I think this is best case scenario. I don't think Rooney is signed. Vatrano at 2.75 seems real low. I think they keep Chytil next season.
IMO Vatrano is kept and Kravtsov dealt, or Kravtsov is given a chance and Vatrano is not signed.
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IMO that's what Rooney will want and get
This will be his biggest payday of his career.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
I think this is a possibility after next season, if you look at his buyout. Slim possibility but a possibility nonetheless. I think they could find somewhere to send him though.
haohmaru
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If they could convince VK to come to NY for the rest of the season and PO's, he'd add a nice dimension to our 4th line with Rooney and Goodrow,
Kreider - Zibenejad - Vatrano
Panarin - Copp - Kakko
Lafreniere - Strome - Chytil
Goodrow - Rooney - Kravtsov
that's pretty good depth
Kreider - Zibenejad - Vatrano
Panarin - Copp - Kakko
Lafreniere - Strome - Chytil
Goodrow - Rooney - Kravtsov
that's pretty good depth
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haohmaru
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I like it but you’re not getting sh*t for AG. That ship has sailed.
I also don’t 1.1 gets it done for Rooney.
Otherwise, sign me up.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
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I honestly have little faith in Chytil staying healthy. He wont last long in a playoff environment.... maybe I'm wrong
A big reason for signing Goodrow in the offseason was his playoff pedigree. I think we should maybe hold off on evaluating his role here until we see him play in the playoffs? Frankly, a lot of these players are going to make the decision for Drury themselves based on their play in the postseason.
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I don’t think the team or management feels the same about Strome as much of the board. I also think they really like Copp. I think they strongly consider clearing as much cap as necessary to keep Copp and Strome. Nemeth/Kakko/Georgiev/maybe Chytil out. The next ELC forward wave (all wings by the way, like Kakko) will come with Othmann/Cuylle/maybe Kravtsov re-signed at ELC level/whatever ELC or picks they get for Kakko.
Not saying this is what I would do per se…maybe though. It’s a sound approach.
pld459666
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Quite possible, but until he does/doesn't get hurt, I think you pencil him in and maybe look to move him at the draft if his $$ can be better allocated elsewhere.
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