Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXI

[Anthony5967]

Pavelski man. Pavelski. Can play with Panarin and Strome and take a lot of the important strong side faceoffs. 53% on draws, brings great postseason numbers and leadership.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Interesting thought, I wonder if he would be worth it. He's at least better than McKegg.

So is Barron

 

[Daves a mess]

What did he want to get from that?

I think the dude was talking about Edmonton with a move but never mentioned a name in return.

 

[leetch99]

Maybe Edmonton is dumb enough to overpay for Georgiev... what would they offer after last nights showcase?

Georgiev has been real good the past month or so

Go for Holloway . We send Georgie back and take Smith . Make the deal bigger if we need to do so by adding Gauthier or Hajek . Oilers have no cap....so maybe we eat some to aid . Gets us a potential young C ...worth investigating . The GM is so close to being desperate and the goaltending in Oilerville SUCKS and Smith is not a # 1 anymore . He could be a dandy #2 for us though .

 

[Savant]

Does Rask stink that bad ?
On waivers but makes 4 mil

Yes he is that bad

I think he'd end up getting claimed by someone. Arizona would 100% take him just to stay cap compliant when they decide to move Kessel.

If he clears, 50% retained for a conditional pick would be all that I would offer. He is definitely better than McKegg.

He is more talented than McKegg, but he can’t do what McKegg does either. McKegg is a better fit for this team than Rask

 

[Savant]

Pavelski man. Pavelski. Can play with Panarin and Strome and take a lot of the important strong side faceoffs. 53% on draws, brings great postseason numbers and leadership.

Dallas isn’t moving Pavelski unless they crater. Dallas are probably closer to buyers than sellers.

 

[rangers1314]

Dallas hiring Greeley yesterday is an interesting move, he's going to have a big voice there.

If they continue this bipolar play, Nill won't risk losing Pavelski and Klingberg for nothing.

 

[mas0764]

Go for Holloway . We send Georgie back and take Smith . Make the deal bigger if we need to do so by adding Gauthier or Hajek . Oilers have no cap....so maybe we eat some to aid . Gets us a potential young C ...worth investigating . The GM is so close to being desperate and the goaltending in Oilerville SUCKS and Smith is not a # 1 anymore . He could be a dandy #2 for us though .

Georgiev for Holloway would be excellent.

And I don't even love Holloway as a top 6 center.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

How far off am I on value for Gourde and Gio both at 50% retention?

Chytil
Kravy
Nils
And a protected 1st

way too much? Please try to be objective .

 

[mas0764]

How far off am I on value for Gourde and Gio both at 50% retention?

Chytil
Kravy
Nils
And an protected1st

Horrific.

Hard pass.

And we don't need to save on Gio's contract, it ends this season. We have the space for the full thing.

The issue is he's 38 and we are dumb to pay prime assets for pure rentals.

 

[mas0764]

If you are hell bent on getting Gourde in here even like Chytil and a second is enough in my book. Seattle gets to take a shot on a young center with top 6 upside and gets a pick.

Let someone else pay more than that.

Kravtsov should not be traded for anything less than another young player with top 6 upside. Nils should not be moved for anything less than a young center with top 6 upside. Or both in a package for a star.

We don't need another defenseman.

 

[leetch99]

Georgiev for Holloway would be excellent.

And I don't even love Holloway as a top 6 center.

What are your thoughts on Ryan McLeod....he looked good last night for them...and FAST as well . What does his upside project as ?

 

[mas0764]

What are your thoughts on Ryan McLeod....he looked good last night for them...and FAST as well . What does his upside project as ?

Don't know enough about him. Inclination is to pass on another middle sixer without a little more upside.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Horrific.

Hard pass.

Look

Horrific.

Hard pass.

And we don't need to save on Gio's contract, it ends this season. We have the space for the full thing.

The issue is he's 38 and we are dumb to pay prime assets for pure rentals.

Look, I know how you feel about moving futures for rentals you make that clear in almost every post. I was just look fo an objection perspective on value.

Sorry @EdJovanovski , like I said, I do love Kravy, I just think the relationship is broken beyond repair, and these two players put the Rangers over the top.

 

[leetch99]

If you are hell bent on getting Gourde in here even like Chytil and a second is enough in my book. Seattle gets to take a shot on a young center with top 6 upside and gets a pick.

Let someone else pay more than that.

Kravtsov should not be traded for anything less than another young player with top 6 upside. Nils should not be moved for anything less than a young center with top 6 upside. Or both in a package for a star.

We don't need another defenseman.

I'm also leaning for bringing Kravs back later this season if possible and to start next season....a hot playoff and or a strong start next season will double our value from him if we trade him . Some trades not made actually can become the best ones....and I know I hated on him but I just want the best Ranger team possible and if he stays a Ranger fine...but if we increase his value....it helps the club . Drury might need to eat some pride here for the greater good of the club .

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

How far off am I on value for Gourde and Gio both at 50% retention?

Chytil
Kravy
Nils
And a protected 1st

way too much? Please try to be objective .

All that for a 38-year old rental and an upgrade of Chytil? Nah.

I would give up this package for a Roope Hintz-type player.

 

[CupSeeker]

Reilly Smith. That is the man we need. Move Chytil to the wing or the bench depending on how he plays and go:

Zib
Strome
Smith
Barron/Rooney

We could make playoff noise if we picked up Smith and didn't lose anyone off the roster.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

If you are hell bent on getting Gourde in here even like Chytil and a second is enough in my book. Seattle gets to take a shot on a young center with top 6 upside and gets a pick.

Let someone else pay more than that.

Kravtsov should not be traded for anything less than another young player with top 6 upside. Nils should not be moved for anything less than a young center with top 6 upside. Or both in a package for a star.

We don't need another defenseman.

It’s not just the Defensive aspect of the trade. Leadership is a big part of the Gio acquisition.

 

[mas0764]

Look

Look, I know how you feel about moving futures for rentals you make that clear. I was just look fo an objection perspective on value.

Sorry @EdJovanovski , like I said, I do love Kravy, I just think the relationship is broken beyond repair, and these two players put the Rangers over the top.

Hard to take proper value into consideration without also considering our position, which is we would be stupid to clear out our top 4 assets for a third line center and a 38 year old defenseman who is walking after the season just to try to marginally improve our odds at winning this year.

That package is too much for us to pay, by far.

I really have no interest in paying any of our top assets for anything that's not a long term piece and at age 30 I'm not sure even Gourde applies.

 

[mas0764]

It’s not just the Defensive aspect of the trade. Leadership is a big part of the Gio acquisition.

Someone else in a different position than us is in a better spot to pay more. Someone desperate to win one last Cup that has no future and is looking to rebuild soon like Pittsburgh is probably way more likely to part with a first. I'm not at that spot yet because we have a future that needs protecting.

 

[mas0764]

Reilly Smith. That is the man we need. Move Chytil to the wing or the bench depending on how he plays and go:

Zib
Strome
Smith
Barron/Rooney

We could make playoff noise if we picked up Smith and didn't lose anyone off the roster.

If you could get Smith for a third as I've heard rumored that would be the winning move to make.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

All that for a 38-year old rental and an upgrade of Chytil? Nah.

I would give up this package for a Roope Hintz-type player.

Ok…what if we backed Nils out?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

How far off am I on value for Gourde and Gio both at 50% retention?

Chytil
Kravy
Nils
And a protected 1st

way too much? Please try to be objective .

Way too much

 

[mas0764]

I'm also leaning for bringing Kravs back later this season if possible and to start next season....a hot playoff and or a strong start next season will double our value from him if we trade him . Some trades not made actually can become the best ones....and I know I hated on him but I just want the best Ranger team possible and if he stays a Ranger fine...but if we increase his value....it helps the club . Drury might need to eat some pride here for the greater good of the club .

Or maybe he shows he's our next 2nd line RW. That should still be on the table.

 

[mas0764]

All that for a 38-year old rental and an upgrade of Chytil? Nah.

I would give up this package for a Roope Hintz-type player.

I'm not even sure I'd give up all that for Hintz.