Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXI

[mas0764]

I actually think Lundkvist has been pretty good recently.

 

[kovazub94]

Hajek has proven to be a competent 3rd pairing d-man. He has been much more decisive and is using his skating to make plays which is great to see. If he can become even a 3rd pairing d-man that's a nice surprise. This is another example of a player just taking some time to make the jump to the NHL.

In saying all of that, Chytil, to me, is not a NHL center. His game needs to be simplified and he needs to play wing. Goodrow is MUCH better at center and this team needs a 3C. Seems like a natural fit there.

Has proven? At most he's starting to get himself up in the discussion for 7th spot / 6th rotation.

 

[McRanger92]

We have that player. Goodrow.
Or am I reading a different website with pages upon threads of multitudes of OP's mentioning Larkin, Horvat, and Karlsson because Strome is a black hole in the 2 zones facing his ass.

And disappears every playoff series we've played since we acquired him.

I was a skeptic on Strome at one point, but not anymore. Hes been great for us since he got here. Hes also been very good defensively this year. Re-signing him should be a priority.

And he disappears in every playoff series? He played 3 games in the bubble against Carolina where everyone was bad. This is a tired narrative.

 

[SA16]

Per cap friendly, the Rangers have ~$28m in cap space at the deadline. It's not an either/or thing.

Well I obviously stand corrected on the cap space issue but I still think it is a pointless and unrealistic move. If EDM wants to move him it will likely just be in a trade for anything they're acquiring and not giving away picks for no reason. Most of the teams that are sellers can afford the cap hit or they can retain some. That would also not be a good trade for the Rangers to make now as it would reduce their deadline cap space whereas Edmonton would want to make it now to increase their cap space later so the incentives don't align. I don't think they want to trade him now anyway. They need him.

 

[DialUp]

I actually think Lundkvist has been pretty good recently.

Yeah, and it looks like he is going to continue to improve. Keep him or trade him, we SHOULD be getting value out of the kid. Can't f this one up.

 

[McRanger92]

Chytil has the size, the skill, and the skating ability. He's just not reading the play well on a consistent basis and not getting to the right spots. He's like Gauthier in that you'll get these flashes, but it's just inconsistent. For a while, he was looking good with Gauthier and Laf, but he just had zero luck/finish.

He has played over 200 games but is only 22, so I'm still pulling for him, but you have to wonder if Drury sees the clock ticking on his potential and may value him as a trade chip.

Given our lack of centers and question marks around signing Strome, I have to think the organization would prefer to keep him, but to say this season has been disappointing for him thus far would be an understatement. I was hoping he would at least end up in the 30-40 point range. The underlying numbers last year seemed to suggest that he would be getting closer to a breakout, but instead, he seems to have regressed.

His face-off numbers have improved, though still below 50%. Corsi is just about bang-on 50%. He is also getting more offensive zone starts. PDO is a bit below 100. On paper, he should be producing more than he is.

On the other side, he has fewer hits, fewer blocked shots, and fewer takeaways. He is getting some PP time, but as he's on the second unit, it's usually when GG sends them out to finish up the last of it.

Chytil and the organization both need to decide which type of player he's going to be. If they want him to be an all-situations center, they need to do the same as they did with Kevin Hayes--drive that home, growing pains and all. He needs to become a bit more of a puck hound, use his reach, his size, and his skating ability, and he needs to still improve on his face-offs. He was touted as having a 2-way game in his draft year. We need to see that develop at the NHL level.

If they want him to be more of an offensive threat, they need to make some changes ,too. Either way, he doesn't have the same ability as Mika or Artemi for reading the play. If he's going to be an offensive player, he needs to use his size and speed and get in and win battles. He said his idol was Jagr, but he doesn't play that type of game.

Good post.

I do think Chytil will have an NHL career as a middle 6 forward, because the tools are there, but hes running out of time for that to be in NY. Unless he has a big breakout we dont see coming, hell be a cap casualty by the summer

 

[Avery16]

Would claim Rask.

 

[DialUp]

So that was our game plan all along, Turk is a maestro.

 

[rangers1314]

So that was our game plan all along, Turk is a maestro.

Wonderful.

Be prepared for NYR positives

 

[huerter]

Would claim Rask.

Make them throw in a sweetener and retain.

 

[NYR Viper]

Well I obviously stand corrected on the cap space issue but I still think it is a pointless and unrealistic move. If EDM wants to move him it will likely just be in a trade for anything they're acquiring and not giving away picks for no reason. Most of the teams that are sellers can afford the cap hit or they can retain some. That would also not be a good trade for the Rangers to make now as it would reduce their deadline cap space whereas Edmonton would want to make it now to increase their cap space later so the incentives don't align. I don't think they want to trade him now anyway. They need him.

I'm not sure many selling teams will be jumping at the opportunity to add Koskinen, the Oilers ran in to that this past offseason. If you watch the Dave Tippett presser from last night it's clear they have lost all confidence in Koskinen and with Smith out injured, again, they need cap space to address that concern quickly. They are sinking. Even if the Rangers were to make this move, hell they could expand it to be Georgiev for Koskinen + and roll with Kinkaid and Koskinen as 2/3 goalies it would address their needs. The time is now to jump on that opportunity.

 

[Savant]

Rask is not good. Would not touch.

 

[Savant]

I'm not sure many selling teams will be jumping at the opportunity to add Koskinen, the Oilers ran in to that this past offseason. If you watch the Dave Tippett presser from last night it's clear they have lost all confidence in Koskinen and with Smith out injured, again, they need cap space to address that concern quickly. They are sinking. Even if the Rangers were to make this move, hell they could expand it to be Georgiev for Koskinen + and roll with Kinkaid and Koskinen as 2/3 goalies it would address their needs. The time is now to jump on that opportunity.

This is a terrible idea. Koskinen is horrible, worse than Georgiev for certain. I’m not downgrading in goal to do Edmonton a favor.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Would claim Rask.

Interesting thought, I wonder if he would be worth it. He's at least better than McKegg.

 

[MrAlmost]

I think at this point we all need to realize that Strome will be resigned and just hope its for 4 years at around 5 to 5.5. That takes him to the end of Panarin's deal and would be a reasonable cap hit to manage.

Getting past that, they need to upgrade the 3rd line center position, and while Goodrow can do it, he looks a lot better on RW. Since Strome is likely to re-up, the smart thing for the Rangers to do is spend their excess assets (Chytil, Goat, Krav, Nemeth, Georgiev, a d prospect, a pick) to get a team to eat half of a salary. People mention Gourde and Karlsson cause they are both a great fit to replace Chytil this season. Z-Strome-Goude/Karlsson-Rooney is a much better center group. If they dont move Kreider to the right, then it, also, give Laf a much better center to play with on the 3rd line.

I imagine Goat will be moved. So will Chytil. Also, I have always supported making the trades sooner rather than later. Chemistry is a thing and giving the team more time to gel before playoffs is the smarter approach.

 

[Avery16]

Interesting thought, I wonder if he would be worth it. He's at least better than McKegg.

Not to mention on an expiring contract. We lack depth to make it in a seven-game series. Here is free depth.

 

[duhmetreE]

Would claim Rask.

He can't skate. No please, we need more team speed. Unfortunately a large part of our team speed is Chytil and Gauthier... who have not been producing or earning more ice time.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I think at this point we all need to realize that Strome will be resigned and just hope its for 4 years at around 5 to 5.5. That takes him to the end of Panarin's deal and would be a reasonable cap hit to manage.

Getting past that, they need to upgrade the 3rd line center position, and while Goodrow can do it, he looks a lot better on RW. Since Strome is likely to re-up, the smart thing for the Rangers to do is spend their excess assets (Chytil, Goat, Krav, Nemeth, Georgiev, a d prospect, a pick) to get a team to eat half of a salary. People mention Gourde and Karlsson cause they are both a great fit to replace Chytil this season. Z-Strome-Goude/Karlsson-Rooney is a much better center group. If they dont move Kreider to the right, then it, also, give Laf a much better center to play with on the 3rd line.

I imagine Goat will be moved. So will Chytil. Also, I have always supported making the trades sooner rather than later. Chemistry is a thing and giving the team more time to gel before playoffs is the smarter approach.

I see something along these lines happening too. I know R Smith makes some sense and is all the talk but they are really desperate for a true center, who has experience. I think the Drury is out (see what I did there) on Chytil. He isnt going to be a middle man. But whether you move him or not a solid 3rd line center is what this team needs, because it seems very likely Strome is going to stay - whether through resigning or as a self-rental.

We saw what Laf was able to do playing up in the lineup at the end of last season and we are seeing it again with Strome the past few games. He can't be relied upon as a play driver at this point in his development. He needs a complimentary player working with him.

As much as I like Chytils skillset, hes a shooter. He skates and he looks to shoot. He's a winger. Providing Laffy with someone like a Strome-lite who can play both ends of the rink and be competent on draws will do this team wonders. Hell, just give him a center who's had some playoff experience, is a true center and can dish the pill.

 

[SA16]

I'm not sure many selling teams will be jumping at the opportunity to add Koskinen, the Oilers ran in to that this past offseason. If you watch the Dave Tippett presser from last night it's clear they have lost all confidence in Koskinen and with Smith out injured, again, they need cap space to address that concern quickly. They are sinking. Even if the Rangers were to make this move, hell they could expand it to be Georgiev for Koskinen + and roll with Kinkaid and Koskinen as 2/3 goalies it would address their needs. The time is now to jump on that opportunity.

That's back to the Rangers downgrading their team to pick up some mid round picks.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Would claim Rask.

No way. Too slow and doesn't fit a need.

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[McRanger92]

Robertson going back to Hartford right before they get into Vegas a day early. Bad beat for the kid.

 

[effen]

The reason would be that you suspect even better performance from everyone else with the line changes.

Your point makes dispassionate sense but hockey is not a dispassionate sport. At best Gallant would be looked at as overcoaching, fixing something that isn't broken, etc.

If it didn't work immediately there would be confidence issues in his direction going forward.

There's also the fact he's a former player and in his boomer shoes he wouldn't want that done to him.

 

[Vitto79]

Does Rask stink that bad ?
On waivers but makes 4 mil

 

[JimmyG89]

Does Rask stink that bad ?
On waivers but makes 4 mil

I think he'd end up getting claimed by someone. Arizona would 100% take him just to stay cap compliant when they decide to move Kessel.

If he clears, 50% retained for a conditional pick would be all that I would offer. He is definitely better than McKegg.