Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXI

[duhmetreE]

Panarin Strome Kakko
Laffy Zibanejad Kreider
Barron Turcotte Goodrow
Hunt Rooney Reaves

Lindgren Fox
KAM Trouba
Jones Schneider

 

[mas0764]

Panarin Strome Kakko
Laffy Zibanejad Kreider
Barron Turcotte Goodrow
Hunt Rooney Reaves

Lindgren Fox
KAM Trouba
Jones Schneider

I'd kinda rather see Strome with Lafreniere.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

A certain someone has Chris Kreider's poster on their wall and is insulted that he is not recognized as a first line staple permanently.

But yeah, exactly my point, well said. What's the issue here? Kreider can feast on third line matchups and still produce on the PP exactly as he is now. You create a first line super-line with Panarin and Zibanejad. Strome gets to heat up Lafreniere making us that much deeper and better.

It's no lose, except for those of us in the Chris Kreider fan club.

Says the clown who says this:

I'm willing to ruin Chris Kreider.

 

[rangers1314]

Robertson back to HFD, Tarmo up to the Taxi

 

[mas0764]

Alexis Lafreniere's success is way more vital to the team's that Chris Kreider's, that's for sure.

Glad to see my tongue-in-cheek comment triggered you so badly though. Yeah, exactly my point. Kreider should be moved out of his LW spot on that line, and I'm not really that worried about "ruining," his 5v5 production which isn't exactly irreplaceable. He's a good not great player and we have great prospects in the wings.

Kreider's main value is by far his PP production which I've argued he should keep.

 

[Synergy27]

I don’t want to eat crow on Chytil, but it’s getting close to that time. He’s not made the progress I thought he would, at all. Very frustrating for a player with such a tantalizing skillset.

I really hope Jones is part of the long term plan. The kid can play. I’d much rather move Lundkvist at this point, assuming we are dealing a young D for a young C at some point.

 

[rangers1314]

Panarin is subject to the 5 day right? So he could be back for Thursday.

 

[duhmetreE]

Panarin is subject to the 5 day right? So he could be back for Thursday.

Brooksie said against Anaheim IF he's asymptomatic

 

[duhmetreE]

I'd kinda rather see Strome with Lafreniere.

Kakko arguably looked better with Strome than Laffy.

Laffy found success with Zibs late last season. Both are very opportunistic

 

[duhmetreE]

Alexis Lafreniere's success is way more vital to the team's that Chris Kreider's, that's for sure.

Glad to see my tongue-in-cheek comment triggered you so badly though. Yeah, exactly my point. Kreider should be moved out of his LW spot on that line, and I'm not really that worried about "ruining," his 5v5 production which isn't exactly irreplaceable. He's a good not great player and we have great prospects in the wings.

Kreider's main value is by far his PP production which I've argued he should keep.

what does this have to do with anything? So the only route is to sacrifice one or the other? It sounds like you're playing favorites for some reason.

BOTH need to find success in the top6. One of them will have to make the move to RW. I honestly think Laffy is better suited for it, last nights primary assist as a prime example. He may not have felt comfortable but no one feels comfortable doing something new.

 

[duhmetreE]

Maybe Edmonton is dumb enough to overpay for Georgiev... what would they offer after last nights showcase?

Georgiev has been real good the past month or so

 

[McRanger92]

I think Jones will be a Ranger for a few years . He speeds up play and is a good passer we have lacked since Tony left town .

Nils vs. Zac is tough but you have to go with Jones puckmoving ability imo. Lundkvist could become a trade piece

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Nils vs. Zac is tough but you have to go with Jones puckmoving ability imo. Lundkvist could become a trade piece

Or just keep both and move Nemeth. Jones can play the left side and Nils has excellent puck moving ability too.

 

[MrAlmost]

Maybe Edmonton is dumb enough to overpay for Georgiev... what would they offer after last nights showcase?

Georgiev has been real good the past month or so

I don't think that would be a dumb trade for them. They need to dump Koski and Smith, among others. I think Georgiev could be a very good starter for them where he is the undisputed #1. They should look into Chychrun and some Montreal players too.

 

[duhmetreE]

Or just keep both and move Nemeth. Jones can play the left side and Nils has excellent puck moving ability too.

I wouldn't give Nils away for nothing but at this point, I'd think it's Schneiders spot. Jones can also play the Right Side if needed.

I'm underwhelmed with Nils puck moving ability

 

[mas0764]

what does this have to do with anything?

Someone quoting my "I"m willing to ruin Chris Kreider," tongue in cheek remark.

Hint: I'm not actually rooting for Chris Kreider to fail.

So the only route is to sacrifice one or the other? It sounds like you're playing favorites for some reason.

My suggested route is to move Kreider to 3LW, which is absolutely not sacrificing either him or the team's success. I think it's the best all around solution for everyone.

BOTH need to find success in the top6. One of them will have to make the move to RW. I honestly think Laffy is better suited for it, last nights primary assist as a prime example. He may not have felt comfortable but no one feels comfortable doing something new.

If Lafreniere is willing and able to do it, ok, but he's got enough on his plate that he probably needs to be where he's most comfortable. And if we are going to start trying him outside his comfort zone then I suggest trying him at center.

Kreider is older, more experienced, less valuable to the long term health of the franchise, less likely to have "future development," stunted by being played out of position since there is no more development for him at 30 years old, his game is less suited for wing side specificity since most of his skill involves parking it down front, and finally, he can continue to generate most of his production on the PP in the exact same role as before.

Ergo Kreider is the one that should move.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

I wouldn't give Nils away for nothing but at this point, I'd think it's Schneiders spot. Jones can also play the Right Side if needed.

I'm underwhelmed with Nils puck moving ability

I'd like to see Schneider play a few NHL games first before saying the spot is his. He plays right side too so Jones will still have to play on the left side. Honestly between Schneider and Nils, the only way Jones stays is if he plays the left side.

 

[mas0764]

Nils vs. Zac is tough but you have to go with Jones puckmoving ability imo. Lundkvist could become a trade piece

I think Nils is the better player long term but it depends what the offers for each player is.

 

[NYR Viper]

I wouldn't give Nils away for nothing but at this point, I'd think it's Schneiders spot. Jones can also play the Right Side if needed.

I'm underwhelmed with Nils puck moving ability

This is the same way he started in the SEL. He starts slow, gets his feet under him and then builds from there. He's not a super flashy puck mover but he is going to be a good d-man in this league.

I'd be more inclined to start looking at new pairings though:

Miller-Fox
Jones-Trouba
Lindgren-Lundkvist

Late game situations throw Lindgren-Fox and Miller-Trouba together

I don't think Schneider will be ready until the middle of next year honestly. Eventually someone will need to be traded to save cap space and to upgrade elsewhere but I don't see the rush. Play the best 6.

 

[mas0764]

Or just keep both and move Nemeth. Jones can play the left side and Nils has excellent puck moving ability too.

And then move Trouba when Schneider is ready!

 

[bhamill]

People are throwing a lot of speculation into something that was reported pretty straightforwardly. I don’t think it’s as complicated. It was probably a first with little variance, and being discussed at the same time as the Blais trade, not months earlier.

You realize YOU are speculating as well, right? hahaha.
There's no evidence to back your "probably," and you "thinking" it wasn't complicated doesn't make it so.
That's the whole point. Just as you are unwilling to accept other people speculating, you can't expect other people to just accept your thoughts and assumptions as facts.

 

[mas0764]

I don't think Schneider will be ready until the middle of next year honestly. Eventually someone will need to be traded to save cap space and to upgrade elsewhere but I don't see the rush. Play the best 6.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'd like to see Schneider play a few NHL games first before saying the spot is his. He plays right side too so Jones will still have to play on the left side. Honestly between Schneider and Nils, the only way Jones stays is if he plays the left side.

Jones is a LHD that can play the Right Side

 

[mas0764]

You realize YOU are speculating as well, right? hahaha.

No, I'm repeating what Edge reported.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

And then move Trouba when Schneider is ready!

Either that or try one of Nils/Schneider on the left side and move Jones.