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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXVIII

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Neither McDonough or miller received deals that were extraordinary I was thinking that McDonough was going to get 8 mill over 7 years and was not down with that.
 
I kind of hope stone isn't resigned by Ottawa even if it hurts us short term because he would be a great free agent target July 1. He's the one guy I would pay the price for. You can keep ek, duchene or Hayes, I'll take stone.
 
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I'd take Kassian.. A guy like Quinn can make him effective.. If he keeps moving his feet he can be a bowling ball for us
 
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It's not even March and Tampa has 92 points. They could feasibly lose every remaining game and make the playoffs.

They have one of the most stacked rosters in recent memory in a cap league and they're still coming up in rumors for major targets.

At some point, the league needs to do something about the significant advantage they have.
 
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QJL said:
I'd do Zib for Point straight up. That's how good Point is.
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Point is putting up great numbers on a stacked Tampa team that has Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkos, Gourde, Palat, and Johnson.

Zibanejad is putting up a point per game playing on a team with....Kreider and Zuccarello
 
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Machinehead said:
It's not even March and Tampa has 92 points. They could feasibly lose every remaining game and make the playoffs.

They have one of the most stacked rosters in recent memory in a cap league and they're still coming up in rumors for major targets.

At some point, the league needs to do something about the significant advantage they have.
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I can't wait until they sign Karlsson /s

their RHD may take a hit next year, Cernak has been good and I'm guessing they're banking on Foote.

depth will eventually become an issue, unless their top6 plays 45 minutes a game
 
duhmetreE said:
It's not rocket-science. Teams will start copying the TB model. How do you get/keep a stacked team?

Goalie is the one position you can keep cost-controlled with proper drafting/developing.



5 years.
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So do you not think tbl will sign/pay vaz once he's into his ufa years if his play maintains? Vaz was an incredible luxury to let bishop go when he was at ufa. Better goalie and younger/cheaper. Not sure that will be the same case when it comes to paying vaz into ufa years if he is still a top 5 goalie.

If i misunderstood your point i apologize.
 
Machinehead said:
It's not even March and Tampa has 92 points. They could feasibly lose every remaining game and make the playoffs.

They have one of the most stacked rosters in recent memory in a cap league and they're still coming up in rumors for major targets.

At some point, the league needs to do something about the significant advantage they have.
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Vegas and Dallas have the same advantage of its residents not having to pay state income tax. There's no single solution that would make everyone happy. The only thing I can think of is to take the nation's average income tax %, and make players that sign to those teams take that % out and put it in escrow (on top of the already ridiculous amount that already goes into escrow). Nobody wins in that scenario.

A soft upper salary cap with luxury tax and a cap floor is the only feasible solution that MAY work out, but it would be a tough sell for a lot of the small market teams.
 
Machinehead said:
It's not even March and Tampa has 92 points. They could feasibly lose every remaining game and make the playoffs.

They have one of the most stacked rosters in recent memory in a cap league and they're still coming up in rumors for major targets.

At some point, the league needs to do something about the significant advantage they have.
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What do you want the league to do, forcibly fire their scouts for consistently being better than every other team? Because the tax thing isn’t why they’re gonna win 60.
 
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I Eat Crow said:
Vegas and Dallas have the same advantage of its residents not having to pay state income tax. There's no single solution that would make everyone happy. The only thing I can think of is to take the nation's average income tax %, and make players that sign to those teams take that % out and put it in escrow (on top of the already ridiculous amount that already goes into escrow). Nobody wins in that scenario.

A soft upper salary cap with luxury tax and a cap floor is the only feasible solution that MAY work out, but it would be a tough sell for a lot of the small market teams.
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Small market teams don't compete in the NHL anyway.

Nothing is going to force cheap owners to spend if they don't want to.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Point is putting up great numbers on a stacked Tampa team that has Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkos, Gourde, Palat, and Johnson.

Zibanejad is putting up a point per game playing on a team with....Kreider and Zuccarello
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My eyes tell me that he is better than zibs. Zibs is aa very nice player who plays a great 2 way game, highly skilled and competes every shift. He is an honest throw back player with little maintenance required and has an extremely reasonable contract.
Point is a star. He would immediately become the face of the franchise and is 23 years old.
 
Minmonster said:
My eyes tell me that he is better than zibs. Zibs is aa very nice player who plays a great 2 way game, highly skilled and competes every shift. He is an honest throw back player with little maintenance required and has an extremely reasonable contract.
Point is a star. He would immediately become the face of the franchise and is 23 years old.
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I think it's a huge gamble to assume Point would produce the same way here as he does with the teammates he has in Tampa. Agree to disagree here, no worries.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
So do you not think tbl will sign/pay vaz once he's into his ufa years if his play maintains? Vaz was an incredible luxury to let bishop go when he was at ufa. Better goalie and younger/cheaper. Not sure that will be the same case when it comes to paying vaz into ufa years if he is still a top 5 goalie.

If i misunderstood your point i apologize.
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I think that if TB was smart, they would be drafting and developing goalies regularly to keep that positions cap hit down, yes. If they don't have anyone internally when he is about to reach UFA then there is no choice but I am of the opinion that having a goalie making $3-5M is a very smart business decision with the way the cap has effected spending elsewhere.

Also, didn't TB already do this? They spent a 1st rounder on Vaz when they had Bishop. How many people would complain if the Rangers did the same?
 
MahomesIsGod said:
What do you want the league to do, forcibly fire their scouts for consistently being better than every other team? Because the tax thing isn’t why they’re gonna win 60.
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They absolutely deserve credit for putting their team together but nobody else was allowed to keep their team together.

A different cap system other than the NHL's "go f*** yourself" hard cap may be a viable solution.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
So do you not think tbl will sign/pay vaz once he's into his ufa years if his play maintains? Vaz was an incredible luxury to let bishop go when he was at ufa. Better goalie and younger/cheaper. Not sure that will be the same case when it comes to paying vaz into ufa years if he is still a top 5 goalie.

If i misunderstood your point i apologize.
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It'd be interesting. They wont have much space to offer and they have nothing in the wings.

I'd say they'd give him a modest 2year deal, in 2020, taking him to 2022.. They should have a replacement by then
 
Great example of that point is Carey prince. Terrific player but Montreal will be regretting that signing for 5 years.
 
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