Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXIII

[Avery16]

It really doesn't. DeAngelo rarely produces and I think Shattenkirk might be done.

Still can be counted on for first passes under pressure and smart defensive plays. In this sense, his relative lack of scoring doesn’t mean he’s “done”, just that our defense squad now has a Rick Nash on it.

 

[Trxjw]

not a

just not true at all, he was supposed to be the #2 on en elite pairing with mcdonagh, but hes really better suited on the second pair away from top competition.

the difference is in st louis he could be “the guy” on that second pair, but in NY whether its the injuries or decline or a combination, im not sure he can carry the majority of the load. we shall see nect year after a full summer of rest and hopefully him avoiding injury near start of season if he can return to form we signed him in or if he needs just as good as defenseman with him

Actually it was very, very true according to an awful lot of people.

 

[E-Train]

Rongos have two scouts at the Avs/Kings game today, FWIW

They must’ve missed that Jost was sent down. I hope they’re heading up to see the Eagles afterwards. Jost, Kaut, Meloche, Greer.

 

[Avery16]

Kukla's Korner Hockey - Kukla's Korner

Brian Burke thinks Nylander's contract is designed to trade him.

 

[duhmetreE]

People tend to romanticize players they dont watch every day. Shattenkirk is exactly what I'd thought he'd be and why I disliked the signing. A #5-6 PP QB.

Hopefully we can dump him and Smith in the offseason. For the same salary of Smith+Shatty we can upgrade to a Karlsson

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Yeah, I don't want Panarin anymore... at some point, the DeAngelo excuses won't hold water... probably not until he's 30, but they won't.

Don't want Panarin anymore? What's got your panties in a knot? Lmao.

 

[Guyute]

Who are we watching from the Avs?

They sent down Jost already, so it's definitely not him.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Who are we watching from the Avs?

They sent down Jost already, so it's definitely not him.

Compher and Kerfoot.

 

[DutchShamrock]

They are evaluating how high the Colorado 1st will end up being.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I tend to agree. I don’t see why this kid was called up. Not even close to ready. Not a knock on him he’s 20 but he shouldn’t be here. Like I’ve said it’s more a knock on Libor Hajek if you ask me. If Lindgren is more ready that’s extremely disappointing

my theory is maybe they see that they have too many defensemen prospects coming up soon and decided Lindgren does not fit their plans so they give him some NHL games to raise his trade value and package him in some big trade.

 

[kovazub94]

For a guy who was supposed to definitely be a #1 defensemen before we signed him, Shattenkirk has an awful lot of excuses made for him.

A little more nuanced but the discussion was wether he could play on a first pair (i.e. play with McD) rather than whether he’s #1 himself. What the Rangers had at RD also factored in, however injuries, AV and the trade were actual factors that determined the outcome here, not “performance” as I’d define it.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Could just be looking at their depth players as a throw-in instead of a 4th round pick or something. Sven Andrighetto and Matt Nieto look like stereotypical reclamation project guys



Their journalist says it could be Barrie, who's 1) a bad fit for the Rangers, just a better version of our three-headed offensive defenseman monster and 2) not someone the Avs should move

 

[mrmovies779]

Could just be looking at their depth players as a throw-in instead of a 4th round pick or something. Sven Andrighetto and Matt Nieto look like stereotypical reclamation project guys



Their journalist says it could be Barrie, who's 1) a bad fit for the Rangers, just a better version of our three-headed offensive defenseman monster and 2) not someone the Avs should move

Barrie is not the type of futures Gorton is going to want or ask for.

 

[Avery16]

Could just be looking at their depth players as a throw-in instead of a 4th round pick or something. Sven Andrighetto and Matt Nieto look like stereotypical reclamation project guys



Their journalist says it could be Barrie, who's 1) a bad fit for the Rangers, just a better version of our three-headed offensive defenseman monster and 2) not someone the Avs should move

This clearly disqualifies Dater as knowing anything about the organization he's paid to cover, or our organization.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Dater is not reliable

 

[aufheben]

Shattenkirk looks fine to me, really don’t get what the big deal is.

Could just be looking at their depth players as a throw-in instead of a 4th round pick or something. Sven Andrighetto and Matt Nieto look like stereotypical reclamation project guys



Their journalist says it could be Barrie, who's 1) a bad fit for the Rangers, just a better version of our three-headed offensive defenseman monster and 2) not someone the Avs should move

Forget the Rangers, why the hell are the Avs trading Barrie?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Unless there is the option to flip Barrie somewhere else.

Side note: I love Barrie even with all the warts. keeping him wouldn't really be an option for this team, but hes so much fun to watch when hes on.

 

[leetch99]

Any chance McQuaid goes back to Bruins at the deadline as a rental ? I am asking that without checking on Bruin D depth first . Definitely would be a good fit for them in the room and insurance of sorts if injuries occur at some point in playoffs at a low cost .

 

[Irishguy42]

Unless the Avs are getting a D to replace Barrie, that would be a dumb deal on their part.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

It really doesn't. DeAngelo rarely produces and I think Shattenkirk might be done.

You really hate ADA, 75% of your posts are about him

 

[Avery16]

Unless the Avs are getting a D to replace Barrie, that would be a dumb deal on their part.

Its a bad deal for both clubs. We shouldn't waste a lot of time on this one.

 

[sjosty26]

Yeah I mean have a hard time believing the Avs would part with Compher/Kerfoot when the reason they’d be seeking Hayes is to pick up some much needed secondary scoring.

Their first could be a nice get but I’d rather look for someone like Kaut

 

[wafflepadsave]

Shattenkirk is really looking much better lately. I don't know if it enough to build his trade value this season though. Still a long time to run on that contract. Perhaps this time, next year?

And that might be perfect timing anyway. By then, maybe someone from Hartford will be ready to absorb some 3rd pair minutes.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Dater is not reliable

That's putting it kindly.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

That's putting it kindly.

Yeah, personally I’d go with “Dater is a complete waste of oxygen”