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Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXII

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Oscar Lindberg said:
The team told DeAngelo to go f*** himself and paid him to skate around with kids in south jersey for 6 months

but yeah he wasn’t a locker distraction

what did people expect Gorton to say? “Yeah Tony is a f***ing asshole and we got rid of him because of it”
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The coach is in the locker room, so I recon you can call him a locker room distraction since he didn't get along with the coach. Tony D also told JD a thing or two, from what I've heard...

But the problem wasn't Tony D vis a vis the his teammates as much as it was Tony vs management. With that said, Tony was really disrespectful to Geo of course, which was just total crap.
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
The team told DeAngelo to go f*** himself and paid him to skate around with kids in south jersey for 6 months

but yeah he wasn’t a locker distraction

what did people expect Gorton to say? “Yeah Tony is a f***ing asshole and we got rid of him because of it”
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Honestly, I think that was a great thing by Gorton to do, to stand up for Tony. He didn't have to say a thing basically, could have claimed that he stepped over the line and that was that. He went out of his way to praise him and lift up that he has many good sides too.
 
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NickyFotiu said:
“You can’t tell me JD [Davidson], who loves toughness, didn’t know we weren’t tough,” he continued. “I can tell you that all the meetings we had with David Quinn talking about getting tougher over time. We also needed some of these young guys who were playing for us to have to deal with adversity, play through some of this stuff — see how they did with it, too.”

What was Gorton trying to do here? If he is saying they all knew they were a soft team wasn't he in charge of getting the guys to make the team tougher?
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Nah, it was, "we knew that we weren't tough enough, we weren't caught with our pants down, it was what we expected, the kids had to learn from it", in a way.

The thing is, this would have worked probably, if we weren't in the divison we were in. If it wasn't all division games. We knew this. I made a post about it before the season started, look we are playing Boston, NYI, Washington and co only, several times a week. Are we really not even going to add some toughness to the 4th line?
 
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Ola said:
Nah, it was, "we knew that we weren't tough enough, we weren't caught with our pants down, it was what we expected, the kids had to learn from it", in a way.

The thing is, this would have worked probably, if we weren't in the divison we were in. If it wasn't all division games. We knew this. I made a post about it before the season started, look we are playing Boston, NYI, Washington and co only, several times a week. Are we really not even going to add some toughness to the 4th line?
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Pittsburgh was the #1 seed in the Division. Rangers, when healthy, take a line brawl against them last year.
 
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SA16 said:
If he burned so many bridges then why did Carolina sign him? Jesper Fast and Brady Skjei were already on the team and knew him. You'd think if Carolina was interested in a controversial player they would do their diligence and talk to players on the team that already know him. Then why did Brendan Smith sign already knowing he was there? Doesn't seem like too many players had issues with him. Besides, from what we've been told Georgiev is the one in the locker room that doesn't seem to get along with more people.
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Shh, logical observations like these have no place here.
 
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SA16 said:
If he burned so many bridges then why did Carolina sign him? Jesper Fast and Brady Skjei were already on the team and knew him. You'd think if Carolina was interested in a controversial player they would do their diligence and talk to players on the team that already know him. Then why did Brendan Smith sign already knowing he was there? Doesn't seem like too many players had issues with him. Besides, from what we've been told Georgiev is the one in the locker room that doesn't seem to get along with more people.
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Why did Carolina sign him? Why did they make any one of several objectively terrible moves this offseason? Tony D has burned bridges everywhere he's gone. His ending at NYR was actually pretty par for the course for his career. Very likely it'll also happen again in Carolina.
 
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Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
Why did Carolina sign him? Why did they make any one of several objectively terrible moves this offseason? Tony D has burned bridges everywhere he's gone. His ending at NYR was actually pretty par for the course for his career. Very likely it'll also happen again in Carolina.
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Carolina signed him hoping he's a 50 point defenseman that finally learned his lesson and grew up. That's why they signed him.
 
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Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
Why did Carolina sign him? Why did they make any one of several objectively terrible moves this offseason? Tony D has burned bridges everywhere he's gone. His ending at NYR was actually pretty par for the course for his career. Very likely it'll also happen again in Carolina.
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I think he'll behave himself until his next long-term contract.
 
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SA16 said:
If he burned so many bridges then why did Carolina sign him?.
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Because it's a low cost, low risk move for a team that is already well assembled and ready to compete.

SA16 said:
"Jesper Fast and Brady Skjei were already on the team and knew him. You'd think if Carolina was interested in a controversial player they would do their diligence and talk to players on the team that already know him..
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They might, but I'm not sure that they were going to hinge their decision on what Skjei and Fast say.

SA16 said:
Then why did Brendan Smith sign already knowing he was there? Doesn't seem like too many players had issues with him.
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Brendan Smith wanted a job. And it's an opportunity with a good team. I don't see how Smith signing with CAR exonerates TDA at all.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
The team told DeAngelo to go f*** himself and paid him to skate around with kids in south jersey for 6 months

but yeah he wasn’t a locker distraction

what did people expect Gorton to say? “Yeah Tony is a f***ing asshole and we got rid of him because of it”
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I mean, it would have been pretty funny if he'd said that
 
haohmaru said:
Little/No risk, possible high reward. I'd take that chance.
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He was 3rd in the league at 5v5 scoring at his position just a season ago while playing the bulk of his even strength minutes with Marc Staal, who is death to all happy things, but especially offense.

The possible reward there is massive. People will always take a chance on high talent until said talent gives you a reason not to take a chance anymore. Canes may believe that their room/Rod are better suited to keep him in check than our room/Doofus David.
 
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