Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXI

[jay from jersey]

But with trading Zibanejad and using the return in a deal for Eichel means that it would not be 4 Rangers assets. Maybe only two.

That’s the ideal how I see it. I don’t see any reason to keep Zibby if Eichel/Zibby as a 1-2 punch is financially impossible after this season.
If you do move Zibby for Eichel, and strome is moved out at some point, they can add another center to go with Eichel as an upgrade. Just not a 9-10 mill guy.
I’m trying to figure out, what is the most they could possibly be adding to Zibby to get Eichel. It can’t be huge.
That means buffalo basically has an agreement with the 3rd team at the prospects coming back, and the 3rd team has an instant offer of extension for Zibby almost immediately

 

[RangerBoy]

If it wasn't already obvious, ownership feels we are right in the cup window. Expect a full on push over the next 4 years

The Rangers have just one small issue. The cap will flat for the next 5 seasons. Where is the money coming from?

 

[Levitate]

Stevie still trolling

 

[I Eat Crow]

The Rangers have just one small issue. The cap will flat for the next 5 seasons. Where is the money coming from?

Kreider and/or Trouba get LTIR'ed. I hate that the Rangers will play that game, but Drury I think will be shrewd enough to take advantage.

 

[Ola]

Red: the Club shall be permitted to trade the Player to any NHL Member (?) Club; blue: no trade list? Line underneath is will not be disclosed to any other persons

@Amazing Kreiderman

Awsome! Before the blue it must say League Year, right?

And from the 3rd row it’s probably:

…2023-20xx League Year and by the [first?] day of free agency in the 20xx-20xx … the Club shall be permitted to trade the Player to any NHL [Member] Club [… …] of that League Year. The no trade list shall be kept [confidential] […] Club and the Player and will not be disclosed to any other persons or …

 

[jay from jersey]

But with trading Zibanejad and using the return in a deal for Eichel means that it would not be 4 Rangers assets. Maybe only two.

That’s what I’m thinking as well. The rangers would still have plenty of ammunition to go after another center in their price range if the aren’t happy with the chytil/strome situation

 

[duhmetreE]

Stevie still trolling

Man he's in heavy on Jack... I don't get it.

Only way I can see it working is if Buffalo eats salary and we keep Mika-Eichel for 5 years

 

[jay from jersey]

The Rangers have just one small issue. The cap will flat for the next 5 seasons. Where is the money coming from?

They really shouldn’t have a problem. Both trouba and kreider NMCs become limited NTCs. They will be replaced in the line up by much cheaper players.
I also think the cap is going back up closer to the 3 year estimate rather then 5 years. I believe most GMs know this but everyone is staying tight lipped for now. It’s pretty telling I’m some of the contracts they’ve been handing out to players this offseason

 

[Levitate]

Man he's in heavy on Jack... I don't get it.

Only way I can see it working is if Buffalo eats salary and we keep Mika-Eichel for 5 years

Eh I think there's a good amount of people that would see swapping Zibanejad for Eichel (in the lineup not necessarily in trade) being an upgrade if for no other reason than Eichel is in his prime years and Zibanejad is aging out of his

But that whole neck issue causes some problems

 

[RangerBoy]

Henrik signed a 1 year extension for 4.25M after his ELC was up. 8.45% of the teams cap space. Following season he signed a 6 year extension for 6.875M. 13.67% of the teams cap space.

Igor’s locked up till 2025. 6.95% of the teams cap space. We all wish the term was a little longer and the cap hit was a little lower, but it’s not a bad deal in comparison.

There are a couple of nice goalie prospects next season. Tyler Brennan. Topias Leinonen. Gibson Homer. Dylan Ernst. Scoop one of them up in the 2nd or 3rd and see what happens down the road.

The Rangers gave the bag to Drury and Gomez that summer. That was the summer of the offer sheet with Dustin Penner and Thomas Vanek. The Rangers were afraid of an offer sheet for Lundqvist. They filed for salary arbitration and they agreed to terms on the one year contract.

Lundqvist was terrific in his first two seasons. Shesterkin has been inconsistent.

 

[JohnC]

The Rangers gave the bag to Drury and Gomez that summer. That was the summer of the offer sheet with Dustin Penner and Thomas Vanek. The Rangers were afraid of an offer sheet for Lundqvist. They filed for salary arbitration and they agreed to terms on the one year contract.

Lundqvist was terrific in his first two seasons. Shesterkin has been inconsistent.

I’m curious where you stand on this off-season as a whole?

Seems like the first time in history I feel like we’re agreeing on a lot of things.

 

[Levitate]

The Rangers gave the bag to Drury and Gomez that summer. That was the summer of the offer sheet with Dustin Penner and Thomas Vanek. The Rangers were afraid of an offer sheet for Lundqvist. They filed for salary arbitration and they agreed to terms on the one year contract.

Man that was a weird year...letting Nylander walk and signing Gomez and Drury, I think they were trying to turn the long term direction of the team away from just Jagr and his crew but it backfired pretty badly. Gomez and Drury were good players but just not worth the contracts paid and things did not mesh well.

Lundqvist was terrific in his first two seasons. Shesterkin has been inconsistent.

Shesterkin was terrific in his first round of games before the start of the pandemic but that car crash and then the restart/play in kind of made a mess of things.
Still in my opinion hard to draw a lot of conclusions from last year...he started poorly but finished pretty strong, seemed like it took him awhile to get back into his groove after a weird offseason and little training camp. Don't know if I can consider him inconsistent yet or a victim of strange circumstances

 

[DutchShamrock]

Am I the only one that saw this

A rise to $82.5 million in 2022-23 would likely trigger the start of a “lag formula,” as agreed upon in Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiations between the NHL and NHL Players’ Association in 2020, that could see the salary cap climb $1 million each offseason until the escrow balance owed to owners is paid off.

SERAVALLI: NHL salary cap projected to rise to $82.5 million in 2022-23 - Daily Faceoff

We keep saying the cap will be flat long term.

 

[Kupo]

The Rangers gave the bag to Drury and Gomez that summer. That was the summer of the offer sheet with Dustin Penner and Thomas Vanek. The Rangers were afraid of an offer sheet for Lundqvist. They filed for salary arbitration and they agreed to terms on the one year contract.

Lundqvist was terrific in his first two seasons. Shesterkin has been inconsistent.

Shesterkin was inconsistent this year. The entire team was. He was exceptional in Hartford the previous season, as well as the dozen games he played at the end of the 19/20 season.

 

[Fitzy]

The thing that made the summer of 07 worse was that we had a great deal worked out for Nylander but he nixed it and promptly fired his agent.

3 years 11 mil or something like it

 

[Levitate]

The thing that made the summer of 07 worse was that we had a great deal worked out for Nylander but he nixed it and promptly fired his agent.

3 years 11 mil or something like it

hah really? I don't think I heard that

 

[Ola]

Red: the Club shall be permitted to trade the Player to any NHL Member (?) Club; blue: no trade list? Line underneath is will not be disclosed to any other persons

@Amazing Kreiderman

Awsome! Before the blue it must say League Year, right?

And from the 3rd row it’s probably:

…2023-20xx League Year and by the [first?] day of free agency in the 20xx-20xx … the Club shall be permitted to trade the Player to any NHL [Member] Club [… …] of that League Year. The no trade list shall be kept [confidential] […] Club and the Player and will not be disclosed to any other persons or …

@Limp Bizkit @Amazing Kreiderman

The first line could read “…[accept] that the Club shall be free to trade the player to any [team] not on the no trade list during […] League Year […]. In the event that the Player does not provide the Club […]”

 

[Off Sides]

There probably is a clause for the last two years, I assume, not sure why we are trying to figure something out which will be known in a day or two at latest.

Why also are we comparing contracts that led the Rangers to not a Cup(s)? Rangers had entry level contracts then too, actually some of those entry level were to players who did more on them than the current group, Stepan and such.

 

[Fitzy]

hah really? I don't think I heard that

It gets better. He then went off and signed with two teams at once

 

[rangers1314]

Stevie still trolling

#freejack? What a dildo

 

[Levitate]

It gets better. He then went off and signed with two teams at once

I do remember that!

 

[NYRFANMANI]

#freejack? What a dildo

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

WOW

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

WOW

They retain his rights until he turns 27, but if Kaprizov can get an 8-figure salary in Russia, he can stay there until he does, and come to the NHL as a UFA.

 

[Ola]

There probably is a clause for the last two years, I assume, not sure why we are trying to figure something out which will be known in a day or two at latest.

Who knows if it’s interesting when we don’t know what it says? Besides the wordings of these things don’t come out very often. One SPC became public in some court dispute like a decade or two ago, have that saved somewhere. Could be interesting to know what they say.

And yeah, we are probably pretty bored…