Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX

[duhmetreE]

Did you expect to have rock solid depth less than 2 years into a rebuild?

Yes, that's exactly what I expected... along with winning a cup or any other egregious assumption you could come up with.

It's an observation. We have our young 'top6 talent' filling in the bottom6, along with scraps. There's no stabilization. There's no 'roles'. The only good bottom6 player, is playing with our best player.

It's par for the course it would seem.. The lineup is indicative to how the team plays, no structure. It needs to be addressed.

 

[mti79]

Anybody else hear the rumor of Georgiev to Toronto for Bracco and/or Timashov pls picks?

 

[duhmetreE]

Having Chytil as a bottom6 center is not putting him in position to succeed. I'd move him to wing but a 3rd line Center is needed first.

Bonino is an obvious one.

Long-term, a guy like Cirelli would be amazing. Dont know what he's going to ask for contract wise and if TB would be able to afford it.

Faska is an upcoming RFA . Maybe another move forced by the cap?

 

[RangersFan1994]

Anybody else hear the rumor of Georgiev to Toronto for Bracco and/or Timashov pls picks?

Source or link please?? News to me..

 

[haohmaru]

Anybody else hear the rumor of Georgiev to Toronto for Bracco and/or Timashov pls picks?

Heard but it’s internet conjecture without serious legs/sources.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Anybody else hear the rumor of Georgiev to Toronto for Bracco and/or Timashov pls picks?

Bunch of internet wannabe insiders. That would be a terrible return for Georgiev. A plus piece sure but not the core of the deal.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Granlund
Hoffman
Soderberg
Dadonov
Pageau

That’s assuming there isn’t a player out there who could fill in that spot who’s available from a team with no cap space looking to make room as well

I don't have a great idea what these guys would command but just doing a quick look, Buchnevich would probably be cheaper to keep than just about every one of these guys, with the exception being Soderberg

 

[aufheben]

Our bottom6 is bad. Real bad

Chytil is not a good center, he's a liabilty, yet he's paired with Kakko and Howden. Kakko is currently lost. Howden is Howden. Smith, McKegg and AHL player/flavor of the month on the 4th.

 

[LokiDog]

Since a lot of you said I should lock her up long term with an NTC after the Rangers cake she made me, I figured I’d update on her development. Making a strong case to be the cornerstone of my franchise sometime in 2020.

 

[pld459666]

Generally speaking, I think we lack both talent and grit.

We do not have enough talent, we are equally lacking gritty players.

Ada, Lemieux, Trouba and Smith are not nearly enough.

I dont view Kreider as a gritty player.

I personally think we need a Brayden Schenn type player in the top 9.

Would love to have either one of the Tkachuk brothers.

These guys that have a great balance of skill and sandpaper are hard to come by.

I do not believe that Kakko, Chytil, Lias, Howden or Kravtsov have it in them to play that type of game.

As @Edge mentioned there is a blend we need to achieve to be effective, but it has to be in you to play that way otherwise its going to be inconsistent and will make you an ineffective player.

 

[pld459666]

Oh, and I truly believe a lot of you are going g to be disappointed with the return on any Georgiev trade.

More upset over the return of Talbot.

 

[duhmetreE]

hes bad defensively as in he's always out of position in coverage.

He's improved greatly with forecheck and board play though.

 

[mti79]

Source or link please?? News to me..

It was on some hockey rumor site that popped up on news suggestions on my phone. Probably just conjecture but thought it could be a good talking point.

Edit:
Rumor: Maple Leafs & Rangers Close To Finalizing Trade

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Yeah this isn't even close to being true haha

Chytil has been great this year, and the only real compliant some could have would be FO's. But the whole team is average at faceoff's, the only person who is over a 50% FOW is Haley

 

[Avery16]

Heard but it’s internet conjecture without serious legs/sources.

This is, in fact, 99.8% of all so-called "rumors".

 

[DanielBrassard]

Having Chytil as a bottom6 center is not putting him in position to succeed. I'd move him to wing but a 3rd line Center is needed first.

Bonino is an obvious one.

Long-term, a guy like Cirelli would be amazing. Dont know what he's going to ask for contract wise and if TB would be able to afford it.

Faska is an upcoming RFA . Maybe another move forced by the cap?

Chytil was fine when he wasn't stuck with Howden and Kakko.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Oh, and I truly believe a lot of you are going g to be disappointed with the return on any Georgiev trade.

More upset over the return of Talbot.

If the trade is a player has been in the AHL for a couple years and yet to crack an NHL lineup plus a pick (unless that pick is a top 15 or so selection) they should not trade him.

There is no reason to move him at this point.

 

[Avery16]

It was on some hockey rumor site that popped up on news suggestions on my phone. Probably just conjecture but thought it could be a good talking point.

Edit:
Rumor: Maple Leafs & Rangers Close To Finalizing Trade

Profile of the blogger who brought us this rumor:

Blogger: User Profile: Reilly Edwards

 

[Mac n Gs]

Oh, and I truly believe a lot of you are going g to be disappointed with the return on any Georgiev trade.

More upset over the return of Talbot.

That return was never bad to begin with- we got a 2nd, 3rd, and a 7th. That’s good value for a goalie. How we used those picks was the issue.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Lol yes been a blogger for less than 30 days.

 

[Kovalev27]

hes bad defensively as in he's always out of position in coverage.

He's improved greatly with forecheck and board play though.

what?!

 

[pld459666]

That return was never bad to begin with- we got a 2nd, 3rd, and a 7th. That’s good value for a goalie. How we used those picks was the issue.

Dont disagree, but the "expected" return was less than what alot of folks here were expecting.

If we get the same package, I'd be thrilled.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

That return was never bad to begin with- we got a 2nd, 3rd, and a 7th. That’s good value for a goalie. How we used those picks was the issue.

Zborovskiy and Huska were the two picks, with the other being traded

If Huska becomes a backup it's not a terrible trade

People were also disappointed because it was rumored Slats turned down a 1st from I think Florida? I don't remember

 

[duhmetreE]

Chytil was fine when he wasn't stuck with Howden and Kakko.

I'd rather he play with Zibs or Panarin.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Dont disagree, but the "expected" return was less than what alot of folks here were expecting.

If we get the same package, I'd be thrilled.

Different situations. Talbot was 1 year away from UFA. After this season Georgiev is either 3 or 4 years from UFA.