Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX

[Shesterkybomb]

Sam Bennett was healthy scratched the other night by Calgary. I’m still intrigued by what he would cost to bring in. Andersson for Bennett May make some sense for Calgary based on their cap predicament. Andersson probably projects as a 3rd liner in the Bennett mold and it gives them cost control moving forward. The Rangers get their 3rd line center of the foreseeable future although he will be a bit more expensive than Andersson. Perhaps there’s a fit there

People would absolutely hate Bennett here. If they feel Kreider is invisible from time to time they certainly wont like Bennetts Casper the Ghost impression.

 

[NYR]

We don't need a competent 4th line. We need to not play a 4th line.

Maybe if you're playing a video game.
In the NHL, teams need a competent 4th line to play meaningful minutes even more so now than in the past..

 

[egelband]

Exactly. Only people who want to hear rumors would believe this garbage, because their brains are predisposed to it. I get that its quiet right now, but almost all rumors are garbage and not to be taken seriously. Its like getting your news from checkout line tabloids, and no I'm not referring to the NY Post.

Yes. Though Brooks is about 100 rungs up the ladder from this dude.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Maybe this is just me, but Ill wait until the Rangers have 9-10 NHL capable forwards before nitpicking about the roles of the bottom 6. I'll take depth in any form at this point.

 

[offdacrossbar]

the forward depth in this organization is abysmal. its thin and its iffy.

sure we have some studs and we know those names. but jesper fast on line 1 ?? brett howden as a 2C ?

our 2nd OA pick is struggling being a teenager. as he should.

kravtsov who was sold as "NHL ready". isnt.

andersson has flamed out and freaked out. hes in sweden.

kreider is on his way out it appears. hell be 6 plus for 6 years expensive. 36 mil for a guy one season from 30 yrs old.

and on and on it goes.

no worrys, help is on its way in the form of one player.... morgan barron who looks solid adn projects as a bottom 6 NHL power forward.

pretty slim pickins....

 

[Trxjw]

Sam Bennett was healthy scratched the other night by Calgary. I’m still intrigued by what he would cost to bring in. Andersson for Bennett May make some sense for Calgary based on their cap predicament. Andersson probably projects as a 3rd liner in the Bennett mold and it gives them cost control moving forward. The Rangers get their 3rd line center of the foreseeable future although he will be a bit more expensive than Andersson. Perhaps there’s a fit there

I'd like Bennett as a target, but not as a center. I think he's considerably better on the wing. I do think there's plenty of potential left there though and if he can get some confidence going he's potentially a really versatile asset to have. He's fine as a 3rd liner, but he's skilled and fast enough to play a complimentary role on a scoring line that needs a north/south presence.

That being said, I don't think Andersson gets you Bennett. If he's moved it's probably as part of a package to get a better player. Supposedly the Flames offered him in a deal for Hall but they couldn't get it done.

As an aside, Jankowski is having a god-awful season. 1 point in 33 games after looking like he might be able to be a 20-20 player after last year.

 

[kovazub94]

the forward depth in this organization is abysmal. its thin and its iffy.

sure we have some studs and we know those names. but jesper fast on line 1 ?? brett howden as a 2C ?

our 2nd OA pick is struggling being a teenager. as he should.

kravtsov who was sold as "NHL ready". isnt.

andersson has flamed out and freaked out. hes in sweden.

kreider is on his way out it appears. hell be 6 plus for 6 years expensive. 36 mil for a guy one season from 30 yrs old.

and on and on it goes.

no worrys, help is on its way in the form of one player.... morgan barron who looks solid adn projects as a bottom 6 NHL power forward.

pretty slim pickins....

Confused if you’re complaining about the current depth or coming into next season?

This season is not going to be judged based on whether the team will reach playoffs, so current depth is irrelevant, the future depth is still developing. Removing UFAs next season is possibly looks like this

xx - Zibanejad - Kakko
Panarin - Strome - xx
Kravtsov - Chytil - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Kreider’s trade - Howden

There should be more high picks, there’s a good chance that from a developmental perspective these xx’s could actually be filled with any forwards I conservatively put on the bottom two lines for now.

 

[Drew4u]

This team just keeps drafting defenceman that we don't need. Nick Robertson would be looking real good right now.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

You can never have enough defensemen.

And as much as I like what I've seen of Robertson, he's a year or two away.

 

[egelband]

Confused if you’re complaining about the current depth or coming into next season?

This season is not going to be judged based on whether the team will reach playoffs, so current depth is irrelevant, the future depth is still developing. Removing UFAs next season is possibly looks like this

xx - Zibanejad - Kakko
Panarin - Strome - xx
Kravtsov - Chytil - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Kreider’s trade - Howden

There should be more high picks, there’s a good chance that from a developmental perspective these xx’s could actually be filled with any forwards I conservatively put on the bottom two lines for now.

Or Kreider stays and Buchnevich gets moved maybe. Then you have you're first line left wing and need to find a fourth line center.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Confused if you’re complaining about the current depth or coming into next season?

This season is not going to be judged based on whether the team will reach playoffs, so current depth is irrelevant, the future depth is still developing. Removing UFAs next season is possibly looks like this

xx - Zibanejad - Kakko
Panarin - Strome - xx
Kravtsov - Chytil - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Kreider’s trade - Howden

There should be more high picks, there’s a good chance that from a developmental perspective these xx’s could actually be filled with any forwards I conservatively put on the bottom two lines for now.

the forward depth is weak. this year its still thin. after kreider and fast are gone, its gonna be even leaner.

whats coming from hartford isnt gonna move the needle much. kravtsov and a bunch of bottom 6 guys.

our forwards depth on roster now is thin and reinforcements arent gonna offer much.

 

[duhmetreE]

Buch+ for Athanasiou and Glendening

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lemieux Howden Athanasiou
Smith Glendening Fast

or eventually

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil/Kravtsov
Athanasiou Howden Kravtsov/Chytil
Lemieux Glendening Fast

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Confused if you’re complaining about the current depth or coming into next season?

This season is not going to be judged based on whether the team will reach playoffs, so current depth is irrelevant, the future depth is still developing. Removing UFAs next season is possibly looks like this

xx - Zibanejad - Kakko
Panarin - Strome - xx
Kravtsov - Chytil - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Kreider’s trade - Howden

There should be more high picks, there’s a good chance that from a developmental perspective these xx’s could actually be filled with any forwards I conservatively put on the bottom two lines for now.

I would think Kreider will bring in something better than a 4th liner.

 

[egelband]

Buch+ for Athanasiou and Glendening

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lemieux Howden Athanasiou
Smith Glendening Fast

or eventually

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil/Kravtsov
Athanasiou Howden Kravtsov/Chytil
Lemieux Glendening Fast

Isn’t Athanasiou the forward version of Brendan Smith? No problem moving Buch but I’d rather they got someone more consistently impactful. Even if the Rangers have to add. Plenty of assets in the wallet.

 

[RGY]

Buch+ for Athanasiou and Glendening

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lemieux Howden Athanasiou
Smith Glendening Fast

or eventually

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil/Kravtsov
Athanasiou Howden Kravtsov/Chytil
Lemieux Glendening Fast

I could get behind something like this. But at the same time i think Buch gets hot again and pumps his numbers where you can get a little bit more for him, even if its a 2nd or 3rd rounder added. Glendening is 30 and AA is a year older than Buch so thats not too bad there. Those two would certainly address our depth issues. But again you may be able to get a more consistent player for Buch. However, you can turn Buch and his inconsistency into 2 NHL bodies if you want to cash in now.

 

[SA16]

I...am really not seeing the comparison between Athanasiou and Brendan Smith.

 

[The New Russian Five]

Honestly, I think Kreids and Strome bring leadership and chemistry that is hard to replace. Plus I want to bring our Russian kids(Rykov, Kravy, and Shesty) up ASAP and let them grow and develop. I think we could already have the main pieces we need to be real contenders in 2 or 3 years...maybe 4.

So the rangers are going to be contenders in at least 3 years in your opinion, just when Kreider is most likely going to start going into decline. And suddenly the rangers are left with yet again another over-priced contract that will haunt them for several years and handicap the team from making the proper moves needed to improve. Then the whole boards goes up in arms again about how the organization never learns.

Aren't we all getting tired of this tune?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

You can never have enough defensemen.

And as much as I like what I've seen of Robertson, he's a year or two away.

The good thing is that Robertson is a leaf, they need dmen so if we want him we can probably have him for a d

 

[duhmetreE]

Isn’t Athanasiou the forward version of Brendan Smith? No problem moving Buch but I’d rather they got someone more consistently impactful. Even if the Rangers have to add. Plenty of assets in the wallet.

I'd say he's in a Kreider-type mold. Not as big but better hands. Obviously doesn't drive play like Kreider.

 

[egelband]

I...am really not seeing the comparison between Athanasiou and Brendan Smith.

I mean in that he has the tools but not the toolbox, so to speak.

 

[duhmetreE]

I mean in that he has the tools but not the toolbox, so to speak.

Smith is a weird case... Skjei-Smith was a great pairing..... then Ruff came... then he got paid... Still cant comprehend how Skjei and Smith just fell apart

 

[Good Intentions]

I mean in that he has the tools but not the toolbox, so to speak.

you must be confused brother...zero comp here!

 

[egelband]

Smith is a weird case... Skjei-Smith was a great pairing..... then Ruff came... then he got paid... Still cant comprehend how Skjei and Smith just fell apart

Detroit fans were telling us, when the Rangers acquired Smith, that Smith is extremely frustrating. Up and down. Tantalizing but inconsistent. Which I think we have all come to accept as fact. Actually, that seems to be Smith at his best.
That’s the vibe I’ve gotten from Wings fans on AA, too. And if that’s the case I wouldn’t bother.
But I could be way off base. I’ve only seen him a handful of times.

 

[egelband]

you must be confused brother...zero comp here!

Alrighty I’ll take your and @duhmetreE ’s word for it. So you guys think he’s comparable to Kreider?

 

[Good Intentions]

Not sure why we have certain complaints about our surplus of defensive depth. Asinine, IMO...

The only draft pick that can be slammed is the goalie Lindbom selection. Brutal value and need. Even if he becomes NHL relevant one day, that pick has to be utilized differently.