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Kravtsov and Rykov stayed together with a billet family this season so they at least had someone looking over them.
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Kravtsov and Rykov stayed together with a billet family this season so they at least had someone looking over them.
Having been to Hartford plenty of times, and then seeing some of the other AHL cities, it's hard for me to believe that playing for the Wolf Pack is so miserable because of geographic location.
Allentown---zzzz
Springfield--can't shit on Hartford and not Springfield
SWB or Binghamton--whole lotta nothing. Maybe drugs.
Utica
Cleveland is a dump
These are just ones in the Northeast, plus Cleveland, that I've spent a good amount of time in. I don't mean to hate on these places--each have their own respective charm--but if you're going to shit on Hartford, let's at least be fair and acknowledge a ton of the other AHL cities suck.
Seven locations had lower attendance figures than Hartford, including Bingo and Bridgeport. Hartford averaged about 4000. 18 teams averaged between 2800 and 5500 per game. Welcome to the AHL.
Allentown---zzzz
Springfield--can't shit on Hartford and not Springfield
SWB or Binghamton--whole lotta nothing. Maybe drugs.
Utica
Cleveland is a dump
These are just ones in the Northeast, plus Cleveland, that I've spent a good amount of time in. I don't mean to hate on these places--each have their own respective charm--but if you're going to shit on Hartford, let's at least be fair and acknowledge a ton of the other AHL cities suck.
Seven locations had lower attendance figures than Hartford, including Bingo and Bridgeport. Hartford averaged about 4000. 18 teams averaged between 2800 and 5500 per game. Welcome to the AHL.
Got it. At a much cheaper price point, I would take him back to fill the role he played most of last year. I really do not want him as a starting defenseman but as a 4th line wing who can jump in and play D if the need arises in a game. But yes, the point is moot as he is already under contract and here.
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That may have been the difference. Not sure why i labeled Lias as Russian above
IDK - i don’t like giving up on kids. None of them get drafted and ask themselves how they can screw up. Work with them. Things happen
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when you’re drafted so high and see the lights of broadway suddenly taken away, it is possible something mentally goes wrong.
I think he should have handled it better but we don’t know what’s going on in his head. Not to many 20-21 yr olds travel abroad for work at his age. Heck, shrinks make a living on that age group.
Tawnos
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When you think about it from the way people are talking about things here, how many teams are even in 2nd tier or better cities to begin with?
The only one in the Atlantic is here in Charlotte. The North has Cleveland... which I include here despite being a dump, Laval (Montreal) and Toronto. The central has several with Chicago, Manitoba (Winnipeg), Milwaukee, San Antonio, and Texas (Austin). The Pacific has San Diego and San Jose.
You have a couple that are within the vicinity of bigger cities, like Colorado (Loveland), Rockford and Ontario.
That's 14/31. The other 16 are on a level with Hartford. Chances are, if you play in the AHL, you're going to play somewhere like that.
Rangers need more than that in my opinion. Gauthier looked quick to me when the Rangers played him after the trade. Wish he was more physical and aggressive maybe that'll improve with confidence. He has skill in my opinion top 9 forward hopefully although doubtful a top 6.
That wasn't the case in either instance, yet it still became the narrative.
That was my point. I'm saying that people are already trying to classify Holloway as bad pick because they see the his physical play listed as a key attribute. Similar to the way people decided Tkachuk wasn't worth a top-5, or even top-15 selection in some cases because scouts were putting too much stock in his physicality.
Guess it's a good thing I didn't say he was the same as Brady Tkachuk then.
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Pretty much every athlete that works in Bristol, CT for ESPN hangs out in West Hartford. Same with all of the Hartford University kids. The bar/restaurant scene is actually pretty popular.
I think you're grossly misinformed about the area. Point is, it's not the black hole you made it out to be and probably one of the better places to play in the AHL.
Never said you did.
But in terms of immediate/long term impact, He's got middle six written all over him. I don't even think thats a bad thing as we have a huge need there too.
People were down on Tkachuk because his production wasn't out of this world in comparison to the guys slated to go around him. That looks silly in hindsight, but thats something that applies more to Holloway than it did to Tkachuk.
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Side note - have you ever been to a Comets game in Utica? The Aud is a cool ass place to watch a game. My brother/sister in law live up there and we go visit a few times a year. Try and time our visits with a Comets home game.
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It's hard to know where to set expectations for the draft without knowing where NYR will pick.
I think Holloway has unmined offensive potential and could possibly end up as a 25g-30a defensive center who drives possession and kills penalties - which is extremely valuable in the NHL. Combine that with his relatively high floor and he is a pretty tantalizing target if the Rangers pick in the 12-15 range.
That being said, all it takes is a team in the top 10 taking a defenseman like Sanderson early or being put off by someone's size to have some players with elite potential available in that spot. I'd have a hard time taking Holloway with players like Raymond, Quinn or Perfetti still available - no matter how many dimensions he brings.
I think Holloway has unmined offensive potential and could possibly end up as a 25g-30a defensive center who drives possession and kills penalties - which is extremely valuable in the NHL. Combine that with his relatively high floor and he is a pretty tantalizing target if the Rangers pick in the 12-15 range.
That being said, all it takes is a team in the top 10 taking a defenseman like Sanderson early or being put off by someone's size to have some players with elite potential available in that spot. I'd have a hard time taking Holloway with players like Raymond, Quinn or Perfetti still available - no matter how many dimensions he brings.
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As someone who works fairly close to Hartford, and spends some time there, yes it is.
Fitzy
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As an original upstate New Yorker it blows my mind that Utica has a second division pro hockey team. Utica. Jesus. Why not Worcester or Cincinnati or some real city?
In the mid 2000’s I went to Hartford with my boss in a company van. No GPS, no smart phones with Nav. I’m driving and my dumbass boss has a map and is trying to lead us to a work convention.
We take a turn down a street and quickly I realize something is wrong... It wasn’t the basketball sized pot holes that worried me, or the buildings with boarded up windows and graffiti.
As we progress down the street It hits me we’re on a dead end. There were a group of dudes at the very end sitting on outdoor couches, smoking blunts and drinking around 11am. When they saw us they stood up and started approaching the van.
The street was very narrow, but I managed to quickly turn around and gtfo of there. Granted, it probably looked like the scene out of Austin powers but it worked.
I’ve spent plenty of time in rough neighborhoods in Bridgeport, South Norwalk, and the Bronx.. I don’t get shook easily. But that situation had me feeling very vulnerable.
There are some straight up shit holes in Hartford. But, as others have mentioned there are some really nice places right outside of it like West Hartford.
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I'm hopeful we take north americans if all things are equal, as I've said before it's hard to judge a player playing in lesser leagues and it's always an extra year or two adjustment with language, game style, and ice size when you draft outside. It's really more of a gamble when you factor the extra things they have to deal with vs guys who played here all their life.
It would be great if Goat can turn into that. For a goal scorer, he was very passive in shooting in the games I saw. So I would add that to what I want to see from Goat. Play north south, throw hits, get pucks on net, and be a good checker.
I do not think he's going to be a high skilled scorer, but he's athletically gifted enough where he can max out his shifts like he maxes out his reps in the gym. Pick up the intensity, and make the most out of every shift.
I think a line with Barron and Goat on the wings could be a really good line if they start to live up to their abilities.
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What do you guys think of Noel Gunler? Projected to be around where we pick, has a great shot & is Lundkvist's teammate.
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I have seen him a lot and followed him extensively. Gunler is a very talented player, who doesn't shy away from puck battles, which is a huge plus. He is good on breakways and has a good shot. He was given the opportunity on the best team in the league, and did quite well in the CHL and SHL. He is a pest to his opponents and disrupts the transition of other teams. He sees the game well and seems to know where the puck will be. Very intuitive.
Regarding the criticism surrounding his character: I just don't buy it. Everyone close to him gets along with him. He is very open to feedback on the bench, and doesn't for one second come across as being entitled or a brat. Him being ommitted from the u18 and u20 national teams is still a mystery to me.
Strengths:
- Quick release and a great shot
- Unselfish player
- He reads the game well and his vision makes him lethal
- Strong in puck battles using his stick
Opportunities:
- Consistency. He seems to pick his moments and could "do more" at times
- He's still very raw. Needs a year or two to polish
- Needs to bulk up a bit and use his body more along the boards
All in all, I think Gunler at 13 is a steal. It's the type of boom-or-bust player the Rangers should target. We have enough middle 6 prospects. If we walk away with Gunler in the first round, I am happy.
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Unfortunately not. I've been to Binghamton, SWB, Bridgeport, and Hershey. I also saw Charlotte when they were in the ECHL.
CaptTennille
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I agree whole heartedly with your assessment of Gunler. The character issues are over blown and though he occasionally struggles with passivity and decision making, his defensive play got better as the season went on.
The wild thing is that if the public perception of Gunler continues, there is a strong chance he is available for NYR’s second pick in the first.
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