Exactly. And Igor knows what team is in front of him. He knows we’re in a tailspin and no one is playing well and the roster is flawed. So we just moved a 20 min a night middle pair D out and replaced him with an injured career #7. Meanwhile he’s got 92M guaranteed coming his way from the age of 30-38. I’m sure Igor’s best days are totalllllly still to come.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)
- Thread starter Leonardo87
- Start date
- Status
Exactly. And Igor knows what team is in front of him. He knows we’re in a tailspin and no one is playing well and the roster is flawed. So we just moved a 20 min a night middle pair D out and replaced him with an injured career #7. Meanwhile he’s got 92M guaranteed coming his way from the age of 30-38. I’m sure Igor’s best days are totalllllly still to come.
- Jul 6, 2017
- 14,810
- 14,127
AirGut
Registered User
I'm really trying to figure out what you types genuinely wanted the Rangers to do here?
Long-term scorched earth rebuild? The Rangers? What reality do you come from?
Did you not see what the Devils spent the last 5 years dealing with in net and they STILL haven't found a long-term goalie option? Shestyorkin is ours for good now.
will1066
If you score four, you better f'n win the game
- Oct 12, 2008
- 52,667
- 75,998
I need a break. Get off the screen and come back for the game.
McRanger92
Registered User
- Jun 7, 2017
- 14,719
- 27,422
Posted this in the GDT like a dope
There's a loooooot of work for Drury to do on defense. You dont sign Igor to that money to sit around and run
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Jones-Mancini
Ruhwedel
I expect the entire left side to be overhauled in the coming months. Rangers NEED veteran defenseman who can move the puck. Preferably guys on multi year deals. Thats where that deadline cap space is going. And I think Lindgren, Miller, Kakko, Jones can all be dangled.
There's a loooooot of work for Drury to do on defense. You dont sign Igor to that money to sit around and run
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Jones-Mancini
Ruhwedel
I expect the entire left side to be overhauled in the coming months. Rangers NEED veteran defenseman who can move the puck. Preferably guys on multi year deals. Thats where that deadline cap space is going. And I think Lindgren, Miller, Kakko, Jones can all be dangled.
noncents
Registered User
- Feb 25, 2022
- 3,212
- 3,945
3 hours it took for the revisionism of Trouba into a "20 min a night middle pair D" narrative
leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
Did they make any money in that movie they made on them a couple of years ago ?
LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
Obv Drury & "you types" learned nothing from the Hank yrs
Paying any goalie 1/8th or the cap is flat out stupid & means we will NOT be able to put a team in front of him.
Even if/when the cap goes up, it'll STILL be wayyyyyyyy to much.
We need a team, not an overpaid goalie (and by overpaid I only mean because that's too much for any goalie, not because I don't like him or feel he's not damn good)
I didn’t say he was good at it. That is factually the exact role he was playing. He was replaced by… no one. Mancini is not ready for the NHL.
noncents
Registered User
- Feb 25, 2022
- 3,212
- 3,945
don't be obtuse. The description was factual but the implication was one of value. You're also conflating 2 things - trouba deal value in a vacuum, and the broader cap picture.
agreed that mancini isn't ready. try ruhwedel. the D isn't ready until Lindgren is gone anyway.
put it this way - if these are the top 8 NYR Dmen when igor's deal kicks in, i'll be right there with you. (fox lindgren schneider miller jones mancini ruhwedel robertson)
- Jan 18, 2012
- 35,409
- 54,164
The only redeeming moves now is to gut out the rest of the 'soft core' and dead weight. While adding a team defining player like Tkachuk.
then I'll be ok with the Igor deal.
then I'll be ok with the Igor deal.
noncents
Registered User
- Feb 25, 2022
- 3,212
- 3,945
also i just want to take this time to tell y'all that i'm pretty sure there's gonna be a lot of happy campers when this next crop of NYR prospects makes the team. there's perrault and othmann, but the rest are relentless and they can skate.
Jaro Chmelar is this teams future and he's gonna ruin the opposing teams day.
Jaro Chmelar is this teams future and he's gonna ruin the opposing teams day.
not at all
IF IF IF IF there is no immediate nmc
we still have Garand + Quick + Domingue
we can still flip shesty
prefer to keep younger cheaper Garand even tho there is a huge drop off from elite vez guy to rookie
BUT
rookie return is minimal due to minimal track record
so worth it
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Definitely seems like the Rangers are fishing around looking to move him. With Millie saying that and Staple throwing out the Mika for Miller offer.
MrAlmost
Beer league hero.
- Jun 3, 2010
- 2,955
- 3,760
With Igor signing i think I now believe moreso that the Rangers will make edge changes. I still like frederic to replace vesey and berard to take Smiths spot. Or vice versa. Lindgren is don't know. It was a short showing from berard, but he played with a willingness we need more of. And maybe frederic will be cheapish to resign.
The reality is probably thats all our fun for the year. Haha
The reality is probably thats all our fun for the year. Haha
Trouba was hated - mostly because of his cap hit. At Lindgren money he would have been just mediocre and not vilified. This year he has been sulking and sucked, but we still have less depth in front of Igor from a technical standpoint now. We didn’t maintain very much of the cap space we opened up either, so the cap benefit is essentially eliminated. Yes, we have tons of room to play at the TDL, if we even stay in the playoff picture, but we can’t add players with term unless we’re moving out more money with term. We need at least two top-4 D and realistically we need a top-six C. I don’t see us getting it with the chips we have remaining to move and the amount of cap we have. All we did was lock ourselves into mediocrity.
Also Igor turns 30 three months into this extension and has a 92M guaranteed coming his way. In this country club? With mediocrity in front of him every night? Probably have already seen the best we’ll ever see from him.
Shesterkybomb
Registered User
- Dec 30, 2016
- 17,748
- 19,474
UAGoalieGuy
Registered User
Probably insurance because Vak is on the IR and the Rangers only have 6 healthy dmen
Fun fact, the oldest dman on the Rangers now is Lindgren (7 days older then Fox) at 26 years old.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
- 80,086
- 17,740
noncents
Registered User
- Feb 25, 2022
- 3,212
- 3,945
i don't want to litigate Trouba's defensive value, just gonna say: less bad depth isn't a bad thing.
in terms of your *subjective* analysis of the team and of Igor's range of contribution over the lifetime of this deal, i think it's unnecessarily negative. I don't agree. I think there is a path here, starting with moving lindgren and leveraging depth at W (prospect and roster player) to bring in a top-4 LHD.
As far as country club culture and how it relates to projecting Igor's effectiveness, i also don't share your negativity there. As far as i'm concerned, ditching Trouba helps the culture. Igor not only gives a shit but plays well when the games are big. That matters to me for culture.
You wanna see the sky falling here? That's your prerogative - i hear your argument. I'm not even disputing the possibility of your version of things coming to pass. I just choose to see it differently. I see a different range of outcomes.
McRanger92
Registered User
- Jun 7, 2017
- 14,719
- 27,422
Mika has a ton of value around the league if he is willing to waive. 8mil isnt prohibitive for a team to take on a 70 point center who plays every situation (some better than others, but they dont know that). We got rid of Trouba with no money retained and recieved value back, albiet small. These guys are well regarded around the league. Even if we are sick of them after a decade of coming up short.
HatTrick Swayze
Just Be Nice
This is hilarious. This is like when someone dating above their station gets over the top defensive when other people hit on their partner.
Shesterkybomb
Registered User
- Dec 30, 2016
- 17,748
- 19,474
- Status
Latest posts
-
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #91: 2025 Trade Deadline edition- Latest: Catanddogguitarrr
-
-
