Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Takeahnase]

I haven’t watched enough Sens games recently to make a judgement about all this BT speculation, but they haven’t made the playoffs the last five years and are the definition of mediocrity. The response seems to be that they don’t have goaltending, yet the same dudes who clamor for a captain who perennially leads his team to mid-table at best want to jettison our world-class goalie for Johnny Rando between the pipes.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but it is confusing.

Plus, I despise his brother and I probably don’t like him either unless I hear how Brady used to beat the shit out of Matthew 3 times a week.

 

[will1066]

This was an interesting part and apologies for leaving it out.

"And I think to the question of where his game is, I think he's going to have to make a commitment........to get bigger. I think he needs to change his offseason a bit."

He'll get bigger. Right.

 

[and 99 others]

Sens want D help
do not want to give up Sanderson or Brady T

Fox, Vesey, Smith + future NYR 2nd
for
Kleven, Pinto, Grieg + future Sens 1st

Kleven is a 1st rounder already here, great size RD on elc
Pinto + Grieg are useful pivots

Sens can say they got the best piece but we got most value
add quality youth
START LISTENING TO BERN

I love a good bern trade proposal and have nothing to add other than Tyler Kleven is left handed

 

[Boris Zubov]

He'll get bigger. Right.

Yeah, all 3 of them basically rolled their eyes at that. The consensus was "that's tough at his age".

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He catches other teams off guard by going to the net/attacking the middle


How is the defensive system or coaching not getting tweaked?

This has been the same story for 4 coaching staffs.

It’s not the coaches outside of accountability.

 

[will1066]

Yeah, all 3 of them basically rolled their eyes at that. The consensus was "that's tough at his age".

There's no reason why he can't bulk up. Muscle depletion begins at 50. Ask @GoAwayPanarin . It's a question of dedication.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

There's no reason why he can't bulk up. Muscle depletion begins at 50. Ask @GoAwayPanarin . It's a question of dedication.

It actually typically begins before that!

This is more @Chytilmania’s area of expertise though.

 

[effen]

Why does it not feel like that left side is anywhere close to correct?

Because the teams going up against the right side of that look so much worse to our eyes.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

How come this idiot isn’t fired yet

 

[Peltz]

Reading is useful my friend
I see dif from you, and main prob is Zib pulling Chris and everyone else down
but instead of acknowledging that
and focusing on dumping Zib and Lindgren, you insist on ditching Kreider

I watch the games CAREFULLY
the culprit is Zib, not Kreider
learn to speak the truth
for as it is said
the truth shall set you free

You can't hope to move zib without moving Kreider first. And Kreider will actually yield a great return.

 

[Filip Chytil]

He'll get bigger. Right.

Tell Mika it's time to jump on some massive amounts of PEDs, keep the long hair flowing, and go for the Arnold in Conan look.

 

[will1066]

Tell Mika it's time to jump on some massive amounts of PEDs, keep the long hair flowing, and go for the Arnold in Conan look.

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I'm afraid this massive bulk will affect his vaunted one-timer. Psychologically he's not the pillaging type either.

 

[Siddi]

Speculated by whom? HFNYR? Other than this board & posters on twitter there's been basically zero chatter about him. For two reasons, one his NMC & more importantly, he sucks. The word is out and his value has basically tanked...scouts around the league aren't blind, they see what we see & have access to more inside info than we do.

Finally, although most would like to believe otherwise, Brooks doesn't usually spout off about rumors unless he's heard something from a source or the team directly. He's not pulling shit out of thin air. When he speculates his opinion about guys the team should target, he always makes that clear.

Enough chatter that Mollie had to clarify that his NMC was still intact.

So we agree that he wont be going anywhere anytime soon. As I said earlier, lets hope for everyones sanity that he turns it around.

I'm afraid this massive bulk will affect his vaunted one-timer. Psychologically he's not the pillaging type either.

We can always introduce him to a thunder stone. Worked for Pikachu!

 

[Machinehead]

How come this idiot isn’t fired yet

Me on everyone in the admissions department.

 

[Machinehead]

King of the one timer is much funnier than the vegan stuff.

 

[Siddi]

King of the one timer is much funnier than the vegan stuff.

Is he even vegan?

 

[will1066]

Me on everyone in the admissions department.

Me on everyone in my department, including my boss.

 

[bernmeister]

I love a good bern trade proposal and have nothing to add other than Tyler Kleven is left handed

if I got that wrong, thanks for letting me know
still a keeper and if we are def moving on from Lindy, that's even better for right now

 

[Machinehead]

Is he even vegan?

No.

If you google "Mika Zibanejad vegan," the first result is HF.

His favorite food is burgers IIRC.

 

[duhmetreE]

Yeah, all 3 of them basically rolled their eyes at that. The consensus was "that's tough at his age".

It’s really not, if he actually wants to. Lifestyle is the issue.

He broke out that one season because he trained hard in the off season with Kreider.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Sens want D help
do not want to give up Sanderson or Brady T

Fox, Vesey, Smith + future NYR 2nd
for
Kleven, Pinto, Grieg + future Sens 1st

Kleven is a 1st rounder already here, great size RD on elc
Pinto + Grieg are useful pivots

Sens can say they got the best piece but we got most value
add quality youth
START LISTENING TO BERN

Any GM that trades Fox in that crap Sens deal should be fired immediately. That is a hot garbage for a top 10 dman (arguably top 5).

Fox has elite hockey IQ. That is not easily replaced. Bern if skating were everything, you would have a point. However it's not; see Gauthier, Kapanen, John Moore, etc.

You tend to fall in love with big and fast, hence Kreider is your golden child. I agree those are admirable traits but that is NOT everything that makes up a player.

Please stop trying to trade our best defensemen. It's as ludicrous as it gets.

 

[bernmeister]

You can't hope to move zib without moving Kreider first. And Kreider will actually yield a great return.

there is no reason to rush Kreider out the door, assuming end of the day he is worth moving and that is not a foregone conclusion

I also REALLY don't want Zib to win by pushing us to move CK to induce him
We are within our rights to play who we want
If the guy had McDavid level production and we did this, that would be one thing
He now sucks and that justifies us sitting him for as long as it takes to move him

I agree he is not an option for all 30 whatev teams
but we only need 1 trading partner

we have local close enuf Jersey and LI
and LA, VAN and maybe Nash

go there

 

[will1066]

No.

If you google "Mika Zibanejad vegan," the first result is HF.

His favorite food is burgers IIRC.

I found this:

Mika Zibanejad News, Biography, NHL Records, Stats & Facts

Get all the latest Mika Zibanejad news, stats, performance, facts, history, and biography. Also, Get Mika Zibanejad's latest career stats, wins, championships, rings and more at NHL Sportskeeda.

www.sportskeeda.com

 

[GAGLine]

How come this idiot isn’t fired yet

I'm sorry. You'll have to be more specific.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Reading is useful my friend
I see dif from you, and main prob is Zib pulling Chris and everyone else down
but instead of acknowledging that
and focusing on dumping Zib and Lindgren, you insist on ditching Kreider

I watch the games CAREFULLY
the culprit is Zib, not Kreider
learn to speak the truth
for as it is said
the truth shall set you free

If you are watching games and think Kreider is playing well and not having success ONLY because of Zib, you are more delusional that I've ever thought. I love Kreider but he's checked out and gives crap efforts every game at this point.