Roster Building thread - Part X - (TDL edition)

[Daves a mess]

I think Drury badly wants to make a multiple season add, but he is at the mercy of opposing GMs with what they are willing to trade. Buchnevich and Vatrano are both top 6 caliber guys who have chemistry with the locker room and by all accounts are available. There arent many others who make an impact at that level.

Panarin is putting up non-McDavid MVP numbers, Igor has 1 year on his contract after this one. The roster and coaching staff know its put up or shut up time. I think Drury will try to get his depth adds out of the way early and work hard to the deadline for the final swing.

Exactly. Agree.

Now what are we giving up to get that?


I'd suck as a GM. I'd blow up trades not to give up Edstrom or Rempe haha.

 

[McRanger92]

Exactly. Agree.

Now what are we giving up to get that?

I think Perrault is untouchable. I think they say Othmann is but for a guy of Buch's caliber he has to be on the table. Kakko is another guy that can definitely go in the right deal. We have a truckload of young wingers. Sykora and Berard have an uphill battle to make this roster being blocked by more talented young players and the 2 Giants. The Dolan/Sphere stuff with the picks was clearly a bargaining tool. I really dont want to give up players for rentals but a high end guy like Eberle/Hanifin/Guentzel is worth a pick in the 20s for sure.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I think Drury badly wants to make a multiple season add, but he is at the mercy of opposing GMs with what they are willing to trade. Buchnevich and Vatrano are both top 6 caliber guys who have chemistry with the locker room and by all accounts are available. There arent many others who make an impact at that level.

Panarin is putting up non-McDavid MVP numbers, Igor has 1 year on his contract after this one. The roster and coaching staff know its put up or shut up time. I think Drury will try to get his depth adds out of the way early and work hard to the deadline for the final swing.

Yes, some experts seem to think it’s going to be two adds (1 significant and one minor one). I see several moves even if they are positional depth swaps. Last year we did 7 trades leading up to and through TDL and 2022 it was 5. I’m thinking 4+ and to your point, they’ll wait someone out for the last piece to come cheaper than expected. There could be 2 significant pieces even if some salary is going out.

 

[McRanger92]

Yes, some experts seem to think it’s going to be two adds (1 significant and one minor one). I see several moves even if they are positional depth swaps. Last year we did 7 trades leading up to and through TDL and 2022 it was 5. I’m thinking 4+ and to your point, they’ll wait someone out for the last piece to come cheaper than expected. There could be 2 significant pieces even if some salary is going out.

Yeah I think Drury can add an effective 3C and a depth defenseman for futures we dont care about. But the team is primed for another really good player. That top line wing spot needs to be upgraded, not for Mika, but for the fact that we only have 5 top 6 players currently. There is a trickle down effect for the rest of the roster.

 

[Daves a mess]

I think Perrault is untouchable. I think they say Othmann is but for a guy of Buch's caliber he has to be on the table. Kakko is another guy that can definitely go in the right deal. We have a truckload of young wingers. Sykora and Berard have an uphill battle to make this roster being blocked by more talented young players and the 2 Giants. The Dolan/Sphere stuff with the picks was clearly a bargaining tool. I really dont want to give up players for rentals but a high end guy like Eberle/Hanifin/Guentzel is worth a pick in the 20s for sure.

Oh man. If we give up Othmann+ for Buch this place will be comic gold.

But yeah point stands. I don't think Hanifan/ Rangers is gonna happen.
The return on Buch is gonna sting.
Like Killer Hornet pain. As would Hanifan.


Somebody good has to go on Mikas RW. Buch, Vatrano, Eberle.

Don't see Drury being comfortable with Johnny as the 3rd line center. Maybe I'm way off. Don't know.

Zac as the 7th D man? Yeah.. Maybe not.

 

[McRanger92]

Oh man. If we give up Othmann+ for Buch this place will be comic gold.

But yeah point stands. I don't think Hanifan/ Rangers is gonna happen, the return on Buch is gonna sting. Like Killer Hornet pain. As would Hanifan.


Somebody good has to go on Mikas RW. Buch, Vatrano, Eberle.

Don't see Drury being comfortable with Johnny as the 3rd line center. Maybe I'm way off. Don't know.

Zac as the 7th D man? Yeah.. Maybe not.

Jonny has been great for what he has been asked to do. The problem is that they need insurance if there is an injury at C. Wennberg is my top choice because he is an all situations guy who can move up and down. Kurlay & Dowd bring playoff energy and are also good options.

I know the chart zealots hate the big stay at home D-men but the Rangers needed it, again, to protect against injury. Zac Jones isnt coming in to play PK if Trouba or Lindgren goes down. Edmundson or Seeler would be a good add there.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

It's laughable. Some people need their phones taken away during games.

GDT's are a cesspool. It doesn't matter what they do. I don't even bother anymore.

 

[McRanger92]

GDT's are a cesspool. It doesn't matter what they do. I don't even bother anymore.

I like going in there to lob bombs during moments of weakness lol. Cant take anything in there seriously

 

[Daves a mess]

Jonny has been great for what he has been asked to do. The problem is that they need insurance if there is an injury at C. Wennberg is my top choice because he is an all situations guy who can move up and down. Kurlay & Dowd bring playoff energy and are also good options.

I know the chart zealots hate the big stay at home D-men but the Rangers needed it, again, to protect against injury. Zac Jones isnt coming in to play PK if Trouba or Lindgren goes down. Edmundson or Seeler would be a good add there.

I can see Zac Jones literally picked up, and thrown into the netting during an intense puck battle in front if Igor.

No part of his body touches glass on the way over.

 

[McRanger92]

I can see Zac Jones literally picked up, and thrown into the netting during an intense puck battle in front if Igor.

No part of his body touches glass on the way over.

He is an NHL player but not a 7th defenseman for a Cup contender. Id be surprised if he and Robertson are both here in a week

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Excited to see Drury trade Kakko for the non needle movers that Anaheim has

 

[kovazub94]

The Rangers could go 16-1 and win the cup and the 48 hours following that one loss would have more posts from some posters than all the rest of the postseason. Especially if their wins weren’t “the right way.”

We’d be starting the next season and you’d have people still flinging stuff in here like “they weren’t even a top 5 team last year, but this shit front office and bad team will get a lifetime pass for a fluke!”

It sucks. I mentioned before I don’t even go into GDT during games or PGT after a loss but now first posts even after wins is the same joy deflating “eh, it was a game” or “I’d rather watch paint dry instead of this”. What?!?!? For fans every win should be joyful as a starting point. Instead we see incessant Trouba sucks or Lindgren sucks or Goodrow sucks or Zibanejad sucks etc. It’s TIRESOME and it became a mainstream in the last 4-5 years. These folks wouldn’t survive wins during Torts era when there was nowhere near the level of high end talent as there’s now so most wins would be deemed coyote ugly.

 

[Guyute]

Frank said Buch’s next contract will start with an 8. No thanks.

 

[McRanger92]

Excited to see Drury trade Kakko for the non needle movers that Anaheim has

Seems way to obvious to me. This has been discussed for a month+ and there is no reason for Drury to break. I think he definitely would like Vatrano but getting him with retention will cost a first. He'd help despite what some say because he is an active shooter and a tenacious player his teammates love, but I dont see that as a true needle mover.

I think the Henrique stuff is from Verbeek trying to get a better return.

Frank said Buch’s next contract will start with an 8. No thanks.

Maybe he gives us a hometown discount LOL

 

[SA16]

Frank said Buch’s next contract will start with an 8. No thanks.

You wouldn't sign him for 800k?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Frank said Buch’s next contract will start with an 8. No thanks.

Yes, but he's signed through next year I think.

 

[Guyute]

Yes, but he's signed through next year I think.

We need to re-sign Kakko and Schneider this summer, Laf, Miller, and Shesterkin next summer. It’s not gonna happen.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

It's laughable. Some people need their phones taken away during games.

 

[DanielBrassard]

We need to re-sign Kakko and Schneider this summer, Laf, Miller, and Shesterkin next summer. It’s not gonna happen.

Kakko and Schneider won't be getting big raises anyway. Rangers could definitely afford Buch. But it's not going to happen because the GM seems to not be a fan.

 

[huerter]

He is an NHL player but not a 7th defenseman for a Cup contender. Id be surprised if he and Robertson are both here in a week

It would be weird timing for Robertson to retire.

 

[Vitto79]

Excited to see Drury trade Kakko for the non needle movers that Anaheim has

It only makes sense for Zegras and more of an offseason move

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Up in the Blue Seats Ppwith Andrew Harts, Brian Boyle, Mollie Walker and HHOF Larry Brooks:

 

[PuckLuck3043]

We need to re-sign Kakko and Schneider this summer, Laf, Miller, and Shesterkin next summer. It’s not gonna happen.

Yes, I know, I'm not saying to extend him. It's just that they would get him for 2 playoff runs. 5.8 is still expensive though so who knows.I don't think it's going to happen anyway because Drury would look bad because of what the return was and what it would now cost. That would take balls.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Zegras is in his D+5 like Kakko, Othman is in his D+3. And it's not how you start it's where you end up. See also: Lafrenierre. (not that Oth is that level).
Zegras worries me. He's a PP producer, without it hes more like a 45-50 point player and he wont get that here. He also brings no more than his scoring.
Othmann may never score 60, but I won't be at all surprised if he does, while bringing the "hard to play against" thing that this team needs.
Not saying I absolutely wouldn't do it, but it's certainly not a no brainer.

I think zegras is a touch better than that offensively if he's not the one creating most on his own.

 

[McRanger92]

Kakko and Schneider won't be getting big raises anyway. Rangers could definitely afford Buch. But it's not going to happen because the GM seems to not be a fan.

I think this is fan speculation more than anything. I dont think Buch was traded because he was disliked by the organization. They need to make space for the young wingers (an olive branch to an unhappy Krapsfoft perhaps) and didnt want to move Strome as he was center and tight with Panarin. The trade was bad but it made sense logistically. It also allowed us to have the space to sign Trocheck.

Now do I think Drury is hesitant to eat an enormous helping of crow to get him back? I bet its not his first choice, but Buch is available and a good fit, the conversation between Drury and Armstong needs to at least take place, and Im sure to some extent it has.