Roster Building thread - Part X - (TDL edition)

[McRanger92]

As hard as Drury would have to swallow, I wouldn’t rule out a very expensive reacquisition of Buchnevich. Brining him back into the locker room would be a home run.

Ive been thinking this myself recently. Im no Buchnevich lover but the fit is perfect.

 

[IDvsEGO]

No way. Zegras is overrated and abysmal defensively. All style no substance. It would only be a matter of time before he became one of this boards main whipping boys. No to trading Othmann or Kakko for Zegras.

I think zegras has more than flash, but Anaheim hasn’t forced him to bring more.
He hasn’t played a meaningful game since college?
I don’t wanna move Kakko because I think we need Kakko more, but zegras for Othmann wouldn’t be too far off.

 

[kovazub94]

No way. Zegras is overrated and abysmal defensively. All style no substance. It would only be a matter of time before he became one of this boards main whipping boys. No to trading Othmann or Kakko for Zegras.

Do you think that other things being equal when Othmann becomes an NHL he will be better on defense than Zegras? Some takes are truly mind blowing. This deal is not happening but if Zegras were to be available for Othmann, 1st and Goodrow you lock this deal in a sec as a big win for the Rangers.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

absolutely, he's basically just as good as anyone that's available. not giving up assets for a minor upgrade at best.

He is not good and the only reason he is where he is is because Bonino was simply horrible. They need to upgrade and they need center depth. There has to be a deal out there that will provide an upgrade at a cost they can work with.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Do you think that other things being equal when Othmann becomes an NHL he will be better on defense than Zegras? Some takes are truly mind blowing. This deal is not happening but if Zegras were to be available for Othmann, 1st and Goodrow you lock this deal in a sec as a big win for the Rangers.

Yes, I think Othmann will be the better player and more responsible defensively when he gets his feet wet in the NHL, and he also plays with an edge which I like. I don't want to see him traded in a package for Zegras. Other prospects such as Berard or Sykora as part of a package then maybe.

 

[duhmetreE]

How has Othmann looked in the AHL? Is he still looking like a next season addition?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I think zegras has more than flash, but Anaheim hasn’t forced him to bring more.
He hasn’t played a meaningful game since college?
I don’t wanna move Kakko because I think we need Kakko more, but zegras for Othmann wouldn’t be too far off.

I wouldn't do it for Othmann as I have already stated and we are forgetting Zegras is pretty damn expensive.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

lol im listening to NHL radio and Boomer Gordon is raving about the MSG fan commercials, he loves them unironically

 

[huerter]

I think zegras has more than flash, but Anaheim hasn’t forced him to bring more.
He hasn’t played a meaningful game since college?
I don’t wanna move Kakko because I think we need Kakko more, but zegras for Othmann wouldn’t be too far off.

flash and dash?

How has Othmann looked in the AHL? Is he still looking like a next season addition?

He's not that close. Details need a lot of work.

 

[bl02]

How has Othmann looked in the AHL? Is he still looking like a next season addition?

Last 10-15 games 5 on 5? Meh.
Berard way more impressive. More visible. Quicker. Creates on his own.

 

[bhamill]

What happens if we play a series against a team that doesn’t take a lot of penalties?

What if we make them take penalties by doing the things that make teams take penalties: forechecking, cycling with possession, going to the net, second effort in the O zone... Sometimes taking penalties is better than letting a player drive to the goal... Anyway, we can "what if" all day: what if we play a team that really doesn't give up any 5V5 goals? What if...
It's not like I said "f*** that, no more 5v5 goals needed!" All I said is we should stop acting like this team doesn't score. Because we DO. As I said, I'd love more 5v5 (and all situation) goals from this team, and fewer all situations goals against... Doesn't mean this team doesn't score which is what I was answering, It wasn't a 5v5 post I was replying to.

 

[Raspewtin]

How has Othmann looked in the AHL? Is he still looking like a next season addition?

imo no. he's got a lot to improve on at ES. maybe a mid year call up and never go back but definitely not now.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Please do not trade Kakko.

Shesty will end up taking a friendly deal but our success will hinge on him and set his value.

Would love for an Eberle or Gourde if Othmann and Perrault are off the table. Pretty much only deal I can think of I'd want to trade a first and dip into the reserves.

Maybe Hanifin but I don't see them utilizing any new LD in the proper way (moving Lindgren off Fox's pair).

Just some random thoughts. I trust Drury to this point though. What if we get a wildcard move like Buch and then a cheap 3C.

A Buch reunion would be cool as hell but also annoying and it will cost an arm and a leg and a couple of teeth

 

[bhamill]

I don’t think anyone is “good” with Brodzinski as the 3C but the question is as much about price as it is the state of the roster on paper.

Exactly. How much of an upgrade can you get at what cost? If the right deal is there, do it; if not, don't.

 

[kovazub94]

Yes, I think Othmann will be the better player and more responsible defensively when he gets his feet wet in the NHL, and he also plays with an edge which I like. I don't want to see him traded in a package for Zegras. Other prospects such as Berard or Sykora as part of a package then maybe.

Based on two games where we saw Othmann he's been noted to skate around somewhat aimlessly when the Rangers were defending. Not too unexpected from a player who's getting his first taste of the NHL but Zegras with all his deficiencies is still miles ahead of him at the moment. Is he coming back from the injury this season?

 

[aufheben]

What if we make them take penalties by doing the things that make teams take penalties: forechecking, cycling with possession, going to the net, second effort in the O zone... Sometimes taking penalties is better than letting a player drive to the goal... Anyway, we can "what if" all day: what if we play a team that really doesn't give up any 5V5 goals? What if...
It's not like I said "f*** that, no more 5v5 goals needed!" All I said is we should stop acting like this team doesn't score. Because we DO. As I said, I'd love more 5v5 (and all situation) goals from this team, and fewer all situations goals against... Doesn't mean this team doesn't score which is what I was answering, It wasn't a 5v5 post I was replying to.

Making the other team take penalties requires good puck possession, i.e. not giving up 40 shots a night.

 

[bhamill]

btw i dont want to trade othmann at all....however if the deal truly is othman, goodrow, and a pick for zegras you guys would be out of your minds to not pull the trigger on that.

othmann and zegras are a year apart and zegras has already put up two 60 point seasons.....othmann will be a good player but give me a break people

Zegras is in his D+5 like Kakko, Othman is in his D+3. And it's not how you start it's where you end up. See also: Lafrenierre. (not that Oth is that level).
Zegras worries me. He's a PP producer, without it hes more like a 45-50 point player and he wont get that here. He also brings no more than his scoring.
Othmann may never score 60, but I won't be at all surprised if he does, while bringing the "hard to play against" thing that this team needs.
Not saying I absolutely wouldn't do it, but it's certainly not a no brainer.

 

[duhmetreE]

Making the other team take penalties requires good puck possession, i.e. not giving up 40 shots a night.

At least Shesty is at his best in those type of games

 

[bhamill]

Making the other team take penalties requires good puck possession, i.e. not giving up 40 shots a night.

When you are also getting 40 shots a night, and usually better quality than your opposition, you do have good possession. This team is 8th in scoring and fifth in defending, even with their awful stretch which they have rebounded from nicely. The sky isn't falling.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

I feel pretty confident that IF the Rangers do trade Kakko, it will not be for players like Vatrano and/or Henrique.

As hard as Drury would have to swallow, I wouldn’t rule out a very expensive reacquisition of Buchnevich. Bringing him back into the locker room would be a home run.

I would absolutely be down for this! It seems to me he was the best fit for that KREIDER of Zibinajad line.

As hard as Drury would have to swallow, I wouldn’t rule out a very expensive reacquisition of Buchnevich. Bringing him back into the locker room would be a home run.

Any insider information on this?

 

[bernmeister]

Kakko and 1st for Trevor
Tank-1rw for Robertson/ Jones
LD 6 foot and 200lbs or above for 3rd rder or less

no x 2
stop vets for youth

just do a 2nd, a 3rd and a mid level prospect for Eberle and call it a deadline. Seattle has gotta be selling, they're 7 points out of a playoff spot.

again no
stop w/vets for youth

I could see them packing in Othmann and a pick with Goodrow for Zegras. I don't know though.

Anaheim has centers and the Rangers have wingers. It does make sense.

ANA fans here disagree, but IMO Oth + Berard as a base + a + is win win and should get it done

I don’t think anyone is “good” with Brodzinski as the 3C but the question is as much about price as it is the state of the roster on paper.

I am good w/him for now
chemistry is important
Open to upgrading later, when opportunity presents itself
but for now
Cuylle - Brodz - KK
is working
LEAVE IT ALONE

 

[JimmyG89]

Get f***ed Debbies

 

[McRanger92]

Get f***ed Debbies

Devils would be smart to ask CBJ about Merzlikins

 

[GAGLine]

Trade Targets: Noah Hanifin is holding the Calgary Flames hostage in trade talks

The list of teams Hanifin is whispering he’s interested in signing with is limiting Calgary’s market.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

Henrique is eminently capable of holding down a second line center role. The Ducks are reportedly looking for second and third-round picks, plus another third-round pick to retain half.

The truth is the Ducks really aren’t looking to move Vatrano

 

[bobbop]

I would absolutely be down for this! It seems to me he was the best fit for that KREIDER of Zibinajad line.


Any insider information on this?

No inside info. But I would watch the Blues and assess their playoff chances every day.