Roster Building thread - Part X - (TDL edition)

[lakeshirts37]

he is good and the line with him Cuylle and Kakko was a very good 3rd line that was great defensively. and again there is nobody out there that would be enough of an upgrade on him to be worthy of giving up assets.

no hes not - he works hard and has a decent shot. The rest is AHL level. They need a real 3C

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Perrault wouldn’t be available for anything verbeek would likely want to move.
Perrault wouldn’t have fallen to us in a redraft.
He also wouldn’t attend our game if he wanted to watch Perrault. Rempe tho

Please go to the 36:45 minute mark.
Brian Boyle mention’s that Verbeek was at a college game on his trip.
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[Daves a mess]

Please go to the 36:45 minute mark.
Brian Boyle mention’s that Verbeek was at a college game on his trip.
Post #922

Oh man. Picture of him in Boston and BOOM goes the weasels

 

[bhamill]

Uh... that's not something you can just turn on in the playoffs... you kind of have to practice it all season.

It's not that the Rangers are bad at any one of those things... it's that they do NONE of those things.

They certainly don’t do them enough. And even the top 10 teams as far as staying out of the box average about 3 power plays given up per game, and that rises in the playoffs. They going to just turn that off in the playoffs? But if you noticed it was a “what if” answering a “what if.” The bottom line is this really has nothing to do with my original point. A comment was made that this team doesn’t score enough. No qualifiers. I responded that the team does in fact score. Because it does.

The point is, if you really want to win, you sould be as efficient at ES as you are on the PP and we aren't.

The playoffs reduce the pool of competition to the best 16 teams. Meaning PKs are much better (generally speaking) and hoping that the PP is going to carry the day is a very flawed approach to winning games.

What? Name one team in history that has scored at the same rate per 60 at even strength and the power play. And all this has zero to do with my point that this team DOES score, in answer to an unqualified “this team doesn’t score enough.” Score enough to be at the top of the f***ing standings. Hahahaha.



IF THE ORIGINAL COMMENT HAD BEEN “THIS TEAM DOESNT SCORE ENOUGH AT 5v5” I WOULDNT HAVE MADE MY REPLY.
Since people seem to be unaware of the context.

 

[Alluckks]

Please go to the 36:45 minute mark.
Brian Boyle mention’s that Verbeek was at a college game on his trip.
Post #922

Perrault is the only player that is a nhl prospect playing in the ncaa

 

[McRanger92]

2 scouts for the Rangers at Yotes-Leafs. We play them Saturday obviously but maybe Drury is trying to corner the market on 6'6 forwards with Bjugstad. I like him and Zucker depending on the price.

 

[AirGut]

2 scouts for the Rangers at Yotes-Leafs. We play them Saturday obviously but maybe Drury is trying to corner the market on 6'6 forwards with Bjugstad. I like him and Zucker depending on the price.

Edstrom-Bjugstad-Rempe

 

[zlev]

no hes not - he works hard and has a decent shot. The rest is AHL level. They need a real 3C

wrong. his speed and defensive play is very much 3rd line NHL tier.

 

[bhamill]

I think zegras is a touch better than that offensively if he's not the one creating most on his own.

He’s still certainly got some runway to improve, he’s still young too, but I see him as a one dimensional offensive 2C. His two 60+ point seasons he also got almost 20 mins a game and scored 15+ points on the PP. That won’t be his usage here. Unless maybe Zibs goes the other way, which is unlikely.

 

[aufheben]

Uh... that's not something you can just turn on in the playoffs... you kind of have to practice it all season.

It's not that the Rangers are bad at any one of those things... it's that they do NONE of those things.

Yeah teams that do all that don’t give up 40+ shots in 5 consecutive games. Again the NHL record is 7 games.

“Find a way” means Zibanejad wakes up and Shesterkin goes into God mode. It’s possible.

 

[NYR94]

2 scouts for the Rangers at Yotes-Leafs. We play them Saturday obviously but maybe Drury is trying to corner the market on 6'6 forwards with Bjugstad. I like him and Zucker depending on the price.

 

[lakeshirts37]

wrong. his speed and defensive play is very much 3rd line NHL tier.

Ok - he’s not the 3C on a legit contender. Go look at who past cup winners had centering their third lines.


Now go look at the the top 16 teams this year. Would you take Jony over any of their 3Cs? Maybeeee RyJo. Youre not winning a cup with Jony f***ing Brodzinski as your 3C

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Uhhh. Most folks on the Rangers side?

 

[bhamill]

Yeah teams that do all that don’t give up 40+ shots in 5 consecutive games. Again the NHL record is 7 games.

“Find a way” means Zibanejad wakes up and Shesterkin goes into God mode. It’s possible.

Do teams that give up 40+ shots per game in 5 consecutive games usually do that during a 11-1 run? Or sit atop the standings? This is one of the best teams in the league, I’m not sure why that is a troublesome fact. No one is claiming they are perfect. No team is dominant this year.

 

[RangerBoy]

What does Arizona want for Bjugstad and Zucker?

Armstrong wants a 1st round pick for Dumba.

The fact that Tanev didn’t go for a first-round pick wasn’t welcome news for the likes of the Philadelphia Flyers (Sean Walker) or Arizona Coyotes (Matt Dumba). I can certainly assure you of that. Both of those front offices are asking for a first-round pick for their respective pending-unrestricted-free-agent right-shot defensemen, so they weren’t doing cartwheels Wednesday night after the Tanev trade was announced.

LeBrun rumblings: What Chris Tanev trade means for the defense market ahead of the deadline

The front offices in Philadelphia and Arizona weren't doing cartwheels Wednesday night after seeing no first-rounder move in the Tanev deal.

theathletic.com

That's dumb-a

 

[Rangers in 7]

Zegras is in his D+5 like Kakko, Othman is in his D+3. And it's not how you start it's where you end up. See also: Lafrenierre. (not that Oth is that level).
Zegras worries me. He's a PP producer, without it hes more like a 45-50 point player and he wont get that here. He also brings no more than his scoring.
Othmann may never score 60, but I won't be at all surprised if he does, while bringing the "hard to play against" thing that this team needs.
Not saying I absolutely wouldn't do it, but it's certainly not a no brainer.

Zegras put up 60 on a crap f***ing team in Anaheim. Furthermore he’s 22, he will be getting PLENTY of PP time going forward. I can’t believe we are even having this conversation. Regardless of the flashy talent as some of you put zegras is immensely more offensively talented then Othmann

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Perrault is the only player that is a nhl prospect playing in the ncaa

???

 

[Daves a mess]

2 scouts for the Rangers at Yotes-Leafs. We play them Saturday obviously but maybe Drury is trying to corner the market on 6'6 forwards with Bjugstad. I like him and Zucker depending on the price.

Reaves Edstrom Rempe

 

[bhamill]

Zegras put up 60 on a crap f***ing team in Anaheim. Furthermore he’s 22, he will be getting PLENTY of PP time going forward. I can’t believe we are even having this conversation. Regardless of the flashy talent as some of you put zegras is immensely more offensively talented then Othmann

He was only on the ice with 4 skaters at a time, ANAs best. The “crap team” goes both ways. Because he was on a crap team he was stapled to pp1 and the first line and got almost 20 mins a night. The fact that we ARENT a crap team means he doesn’t get those opportunities or get forgiven for his defensive ineptitude. His numbers would go down. Significantly. The fact remains without PP time he was a 45-50 point player. I’m not saying he sucks, but I think people overrate him. I mean everyone clamoring for him is ignoring how bad he was this year before he got hurt. AND, I’m interested in more than just offense. I never said Othmann was as good as him offensively, but I can definitely see Othmann scoring 60 points or 45 with no PP time and bring other aspects. Again, I don’t think it’s a wildly terrible trade, but it’s not one I’d be looking to make.

 

[RangerBoy]

Marek reported some teams want both Walker and Seeler.

Boston? The Bruins need a 3rd righty behind McAvoy and Carlo. Shattenkirk is old. They can use another lefty. Lindholm is hurt. Grzelcyk is always hurt. Forbert missed a team meeting. Benched.

 

[RGY]

Boston has traded a lot of assets. What’s left. Most East teams that are buyers are like this.

 

[pld459666]

They certainly don’t do them enough. And even the top 10 teams as far as staying out of the box average about 3 power plays given up per game, and that rises in the playoffs. They going to just turn that off in the playoffs? But if you noticed it was a “what if” answering a “what if.” The bottom line is this really has nothing to do with my original point. A comment was made that this team doesn’t score enough. No qualifiers. I responded that the team does in fact score. Because it does.


What? Name one team in history that has scored at the same rate per 60 at even strength and the power play. And all this has zero to do with my point that this team DOES score, in answer to an unqualified “this team doesn’t score enough.” Score enough to be at the top of the f***ing standings. Hahahaha.



IF THE ORIGINAL COMMENT HAD BEEN “THIS TEAM DOESNT SCORE ENOUGH AT 5v5” I WOULDNT HAVE MADE MY REPLY.
Since people seem to be unaware of the context.

You think 22nd in the league at even strength is efficient?

If you are expecting their PP to win them games when checking gets tighter and attention to detail is ramped up, and most of the better PK units are on display, I believe you would be wrong.

We view the team differently. I think their warts are both significant and very detrimental.

 

[RangersFan1994]

What does Arizona want for Bjugstad and Zucker?

Armstrong wants a 1st round pick for Dumba.

LeBrun rumblings: What Chris Tanev trade means for the defense market ahead of the deadline

The front offices in Philadelphia and Arizona weren't doing cartwheels Wednesday night after seeing no first-rounder move in the Tanev deal.

theathletic.com

That's dumb-a

I rather trade for McBain someone who will be here for me than a year or 2 even if it costs more. McBain has nasty in his game, big physical center and only 24. Would not mind Zucker but isn't he injury prone lately?

 

[bhamill]

You think 22nd in the league at even strength is efficient?

If you are expecting their PP to win them games when checking gets tighter and attention to detail is ramped up, and most of the better PK units are on display, I believe you would be wrong.

We view the team differently. I think their warts are both significant and very detrimental.

I think 8th in goals scored is good. I think FIRST in the standings is very good. Where did say they were efficient at 5v5? Why are you continually trying to argue 5v5 with me while Im talking about overall? I already pointed this out several times. I’m not sure why you are trying to argue something with me that wasn’t what I was talking about to begin with. Are you conflating me with another poster?
I’ve already said they need to be better 5v5 and never said differently.

 

[JimmyG89]

What does Arizona want for Bjugstad and Zucker?

Armstrong wants a 1st round pick for Dumba.

LeBrun rumblings: What Chris Tanev trade means for the defense market ahead of the deadline

The front offices in Philadelphia and Arizona weren't doing cartwheels Wednesday night after seeing no first-rounder move in the Tanev deal.

theathletic.com

That's dumb-a

Bjugstad is lined up as their 2C tonight. I'm more interested if the Coyotes would move Hayton. He's on the top line now and would immediately fill the 3C void not just for now.

Coyotes went center with their last two very high picks. Hayton is an RFA, who knows what their money situation is.

I do like Zucker, he's just been so injury prone.