Marco Kasper vs Dalibor Dvorsky

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Who would you prefer if you could only have one?

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[BKarchitect]

This isn’t really fair to Dvorsky at the moment given that he’s a year behind and it’s kinda hard to ignore that Kasper is basically not looking out of place on a real NHL first line recently.

So Kasper for sure…right now. Dvorsky may have a similar impact next year. Great rookie AHL season for a teenager.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Comparing a current NHLer that has been producing at a roughly 60 point pace since being promoted to the 1st line, at 20 years old, to a guy who is currently in the AHL at 19, doesn't even seem fair to Dvorsky.

Short of an elite/generational prospect, you've gotta go with the guy proving it now.

But I'm sure there's some geniuses who haven't been paying attention and will still scream about Kasper's limited offensive upside.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Comparing a current NHLer that has been producing at a roughly 60 point pace since being promoted to the 1st line, at 20 years old, to a guy who is currently in the AHL at 19, doesn't even seem fair to Dvorsky.

Short of an elite/generational prospect, you've gotta go with the guy proving it now.

But I'm sure there's some geniuses who haven't been paying attention and will still scream about Kasper's limited offensive upside.

I'm just posting this because Wheeler had Dvorsky at #22 and Kasper at #31, and I thought that was weird.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I'm just posting this because Wheeler had Dvorsky at #22 and Kasper at #31, and I thought that was weird.

Shouldn't be surprising. Wheeler is a known stat watcher who doesn't do f*** all to evaluate other aspects of the game.

 

[biturbo19]

I like Kasper's "upside" or "ceiling" offensively better. He's just a little bit more dynamic all around i think.

 

[ESH]

Comparing a current NHLer that has been producing at a roughly 60 point pace since being promoted to the 1st line, at 20 years old, to a guy who is currently in the AHL at 19, doesn't even seem fair to Dvorsky.

Short of an elite/generational prospect, you've gotta go with the guy proving it now.

But I'm sure there's some geniuses who haven't been paying attention and will still scream about Kasper's limited offensive upside.

“Producing at a 60 point pace”

Just say the dude has 13 points in his last 18 games

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

This should be Danielson vs Dvorsky.

Same draft class. Both in the AHL.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

“Producing at a 60 point pace”

Just say the dude has 13 points in his last 18 games

No thanks.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

This should be Danielson vs Dvorsky.

Same draft class. Both in the AHL.

Because Dvorsky is almost a full year younger and producing at a better rate than Danielson. Produced better the year before too and has a great international resume. Kapser vs Dvorsky is heck of a lot closer than Danielson vs Dvorsky.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Because Dvorsky is almost a full year younger and producing at a better rate than Danielson. Produced better the year before too and has a great international resume. Kapser vs Dvorsky is heck of a lot closer than Danielson vs Dvorsky.

Danielson is producing at pretty much the same rate that Kasper did last year lol.

 

[RedHawkDown]

This should be Danielson vs Dvorsky.

Same draft class. Both in the AHL.

I don't think this is very close at this moment. Dvorsky's main concern was his ability to play his game against men, and he has completely obliterated that concern this year. He has all the tools (and had them since the draft) to be a 2-way 60-70pt 1B/2A centre in the NHL, and he's trending very well to achieve it.

Danielson's also got the tools to be a great defensive 2C, but he's currently not showing enough offensive upside to be trending in that direction. Not to mention that Dvorsky is an entire year younger than Danielson. These 2 guys have gone in opposite directions this past year and I don't think if you made this poll you would have a single non-Detroit fan voting for Danielson.

 

[ToastedRavioli]

This is obviously an unfair comparison given the fact that Dvorsky is 14 months younger. If you compare Kasper's 19 year old season to Dvorsky's current 19 year old season, Dvorsky would blow him out of the water. Kasper is on pace for 31 points this year in the NHL as a 20 year old, which is definitely solid, but acting as if he's clearly a better prospect because of that is odd. If next year Dvorsky cannot stay in the NHL and put up 30 points, then a conversation can be had, but as it stands, Dvorsky has been much better than Kasper when comparing them at the same age.

A more fair comparison would obviously be Danielson Vs. Dvorsky. They were taken 9th and 10th overall in the same draft. As others have mentioned however, this would not really be an interesting conversation as Dvorsky has clearly progressed better as a prospect, especially considering he is actually ~9 months younger than Danielson.

 

[newfy]

Kasper does a lot more without the puck, and is now showing he has real offensive upside, doesnt look out of place on the first line of an NHL team. This poll is going to be lopsided

 

[eojsmada]

This isn’t really fair to Dvorsky at the moment given that he’s a year behind and it’s kinda hard to ignore that Kasper is basically not looking out of place on a real NHL first line recently.

So Kasper for sure…right now. Dvorsky may have a similar impact next year. Great rookie AHL season for a teenager.

My thoughts exactly. It's almost an apples to oranges comparison since Dvorsky hasn't seen the NHL yet to gain a more even footing for comparison.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Dvorsky has been much better than Kasper when comparing them at the same age.

Dvorsky was lightyears from Kasper at 17 and 18.

I still have signficant questions about Dvorsky's overall game. Could easily see him reaching a higher offensive ceiling than Kasper, but on balance I believe Kasper will be far more valuable as a player.

 

[stl76]

A nice stretch of ~11 games for Kasper is not enough to put him over Dvorsky given the rest of their respective developmental history in my (admittedly biased) opinion.

 

[newfy]

A nice stretch of ~11 games for Kasper is not enough to put him over Dvorsky given the rest of their respective developmental history in my (admittedly biased) opinion.

I dunno, Dvorsky played at lower levels where his offence looked good. Kasper does all kinds of stuff where an SHL team has trusted him to play at the highest level for a while and he had solid production in his draft+1 for his age. Dvorsky got a sniff of the SHL in his draft+1 and had to leave for the OHL after looking out of place.

Kasper at lower levels in Sweden or in the O would have pretty eye popping numbers, but he was good enough to skip those stops. The griffins have been a low scoring team for a while, but Kasper was still one of their top producers, even if the numbers werent as big as Dvorskys. Now, on top of that you have some NHL run for Kasper showing he is good in the league as well.