Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part X — Active Roster in OP (09/28)
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Amazing Kreiderman
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Howden is waiver exempt. Just not slide eligible. Those aren't the same thing. CBA is confusing haha
Err… I meant Howden's contract year wouldn't slide and Andersson's would
Irishguy42
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Howden doesn't require waivers, but his ELC does not slide. Neither does Hajek's.
Andersson's ELC does slide this season.
For Hajek to stay, we would have had to find a taker for Staal or Smith. We weren't going to keep him here to press box him. No one wants Staal's contract, and it seems like Smith will be worthwhile to hold onto for the time being.
Andersson could end up playing 72 games in the NHL this year and it wouldn't surprise anyone. There's nothing wrong with one of your top prospects getting frontline minutes in the minors if you view him as a frontline player in the NHL. I'm confident that Anderson will force his way up this year, and sooner rather than later.
Look I thought he was the best player out of Chytil & Howden but odds are that they view him as a 2nd line, all-purpose center, and Filip and Brett fill other roles.
Also, I liked the chemistry between Howden & Letteri, and they actually made Vesey look good out there. If that's your "4th line" then that's a very good slot for all 4 guys in the sense that it facilitates minutes in the upper end of the line up.
I'm more concerned about asset management at the upper end of the line up and the collective as opposed to individual players.
For example, I expect Buchnevich to be an offensive catalyst, but I also see a poorly slotted set of wingers on lines 2 & 3.
Kreider-Zibs-Buch- Perfectly okay with this as the top line. Is it a top line on a contender? No, not with the lack of consistency all 3 players have shown.
Spoons-Hayes-Zucc- Is this going to be an effective two-way line? No. But I liked the chemistry between Spooner and Zucc, and all 3 of these guys can pass and score. 2nd line on a winning team? Don't think so. You hope two of the UFAs have a great season for a killer return in a trade. Heck I would trade Zucc out as a rental and re-sign if the Rangers can't get a Panarin or a Stone.
Names-Chytil-Fast- You put two experienced wingers who can play defense next to a center that is going to focus on offense. If this mix doesn't work, then you swap Hayes and Chytil, and let Spooner-Chytil-Zucc get sheltered offensive minutes, and use Hayes in a checking role with Fast and Names. And I'm not a fan of Names.
Vesey-Howden-Lettieri- Maybe the hunger of the two rookies rubs off on Jimmy and he shows more effort on a nightly basis. You bank on Vinny becoming a poor man's Callahan. Maybe he learns to kill penalties effectively. If he does, then you've got yourself a hell of a find, because Howden plays a north-south two way game that is consistent and effective. If Howden is a good two way center that PKs and produces 5v5, and ends up as a Plus version of a Jay Beagle then that's an excellent center to have. You win with those guys. Beagle had a season where he put up 30 points 5v5, which is very good in this day and age from a 12-14 minute player who goes up against top lines.
I look at that line-up above, and think to myself, that I would want 4 slots moved out (in italics).
You can have Belesky take over Vesey for this year, and sign a UFA next or maybe a kid surprises. A Vesey trade will be a lateral hockey deal because of his salary next year. If he plays well, then you keep him.
Names is a tougher trade. You will have to eat a contract coming back. If he sucks, then you have the option of buying him out. It's all a matter of the role that he can fill, because right now, I just don't see him filling one effectively.
Hayes & Zucc are rentals, and Hayes will get you a much better than expected return because he's a center with size that can handle a two way game. A contract, 1st and a good prospect isn't out of the question.
With Zucc, you either get a 1st and a low end prospect/contract, or a good prospect and a 2nd/3rd. I would be very happy with draft picks, since that adds to your currency bucket.
Say you move out Names, and this is your line up next year.
Kreider-Zibs-Buch
Panarin-Chytil-Kravstov
Spooner-Anderson-Fast
Dzingle-Howden-Lettieri
You're maybe 1 year away from contending with the recent picks, and cap space that's going to be open.
If both Spooner and Names are out, without much salary coming back, then guess what, you can really load up with another UFA like Silverberg or a Donskoi.
Look I thought he was the best player out of Chytil & Howden but odds are that they view him as a 2nd line, all-purpose center, and Filip and Brett fill other roles.
Also, I liked the chemistry between Howden & Letteri, and they actually made Vesey look good out there. If that's your "4th line" then that's a very good slot for all 4 guys in the sense that it facilitates minutes in the upper end of the line up.
I'm more concerned about asset management at the upper end of the line up and the collective as opposed to individual players.
For example, I expect Buchnevich to be an offensive catalyst, but I also see a poorly slotted set of wingers on lines 2 & 3.
Kreider-Zibs-Buch- Perfectly okay with this as the top line. Is it a top line on a contender? No, not with the lack of consistency all 3 players have shown.
Spoons-Hayes-Zucc- Is this going to be an effective two-way line? No. But I liked the chemistry between Spooner and Zucc, and all 3 of these guys can pass and score. 2nd line on a winning team? Don't think so. You hope two of the UFAs have a great season for a killer return in a trade. Heck I would trade Zucc out as a rental and re-sign if the Rangers can't get a Panarin or a Stone.
Names-Chytil-Fast- You put two experienced wingers who can play defense next to a center that is going to focus on offense. If this mix doesn't work, then you swap Hayes and Chytil, and let Spooner-Chytil-Zucc get sheltered offensive minutes, and use Hayes in a checking role with Fast and Names. And I'm not a fan of Names.
Vesey-Howden-Lettieri- Maybe the hunger of the two rookies rubs off on Jimmy and he shows more effort on a nightly basis. You bank on Vinny becoming a poor man's Callahan. Maybe he learns to kill penalties effectively. If he does, then you've got yourself a hell of a find, because Howden plays a north-south two way game that is consistent and effective. If Howden is a good two way center that PKs and produces 5v5, and ends up as a Plus version of a Jay Beagle then that's an excellent center to have. You win with those guys. Beagle had a season where he put up 30 points 5v5, which is very good in this day and age from a 12-14 minute player who goes up against top lines.
I look at that line-up above, and think to myself, that I would want 4 slots moved out (in italics).
You can have Belesky take over Vesey for this year, and sign a UFA next or maybe a kid surprises. A Vesey trade will be a lateral hockey deal because of his salary next year. If he plays well, then you keep him.
Names is a tougher trade. You will have to eat a contract coming back. If he sucks, then you have the option of buying him out. It's all a matter of the role that he can fill, because right now, I just don't see him filling one effectively.
Hayes & Zucc are rentals, and Hayes will get you a much better than expected return because he's a center with size that can handle a two way game. A contract, 1st and a good prospect isn't out of the question.
With Zucc, you either get a 1st and a low end prospect/contract, or a good prospect and a 2nd/3rd. I would be very happy with draft picks, since that adds to your currency bucket.
Say you move out Names, and this is your line up next year.
Kreider-Zibs-Buch
Panarin-Chytil-Kravstov
Spooner-Anderson-Fast
Dzingle-Howden-Lettieri
You're maybe 1 year away from contending with the recent picks, and cap space that's going to be open.
If both Spooner and Names are out, without much salary coming back, then guess what, you can really load up with another UFA like Silverberg or a Donskoi.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Let's just list the Big Five and what the contract status is. There are 3 things to look at with regards to sending them down:
- Waiver exemption (W)
- Slide eligibility (S)
- Non-accrued pro-season (N)
Chytil: W, S, N
Andersson: W, S
Howden, Hajek, Lindgren: W
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I Eat Crow
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The Rangers aren't going to contend until they have a top pairing defenseman capable of playing 25 minutes a night in all situations. I like Hajek the best out of our current defensive prospects, but I don't see him or anyone currently in the organization as that player.
This player isn't in the organization yet. It's going to take some time to find that player, whether it be through trade or draft, unless Karlsson wants to come here on team friendly terms.
This player isn't in the organization yet. It's going to take some time to find that player, whether it be through trade or draft, unless Karlsson wants to come here on team friendly terms.
Hire Sather
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PlamsUnlimited
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We've been cloning Brian and Jeff. Stay tuned
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We don't know yet that neither Lundqvist nor Miller have that upside.
At their peak Stralman/Staal were 25 minute guys.
If you look around the league, most of the people who would be considered #1 D were not considered to have that kind of ability well into their careers.
Who are the guys who had those expectations and hit the mark? Doughty, Hedman, Pietriangelo and OEL and Jones? I guess Dougie Hamilton too.
Who are the guys who had those expectations and hit the mark? Doughty, Hedman, Pietriangelo and OEL and Jones? I guess Dougie Hamilton too.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Finally got around to listening to JG's Q&A after the final cuts.
Nothing earth shattering, but he more or less admitted that they chose to cater to Staal than to keep Hajek and make Marc an extra.
Very annoyed with that. When Marc tanks it this month he should be relegated to the 8th guy with Hajek taking those minutes.
Nothing earth shattering, but he more or less admitted that they chose to cater to Staal than to keep Hajek and make Marc an extra.
Very annoyed with that. When Marc tanks it this month he should be relegated to the 8th guy with Hajek taking those minutes.
Lots of the standard stuff we'll hear around the league from every team but the Hajek stuff came towards the end.
His expectations for this team are not all that high.
Machinehead
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Machinehead
Fox Mafia Consigliere
Wonder what Panarin will wear here
9 is retired and 72 is Chytil.
81
Hopefully 18 becomes available if he wants some numerical combination that = 9.
Machinehead
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Why don’t you watch this seasons games and see what happens? Emphasizes SEE
silverfish
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I saw enough in the 19 games he attempted to play at the NHL level last year. Which was corroborated by bad metrics. Which will probably happen again this year because he's not a good 5v5 player. Emphasizes PROBABLY
Not here to make any declarations, one way or the other, Bob, but I envy your confidence.
LaffyTaffy
Brooklyn-Belarussian
AFAIK Chytil chose 72 as that is the year his father was born (mine too actually, then again I am 7 months older than Chytil). I also don't think that it is an ugly number at all, anything in the 70s is hot.
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