Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VIII: Autumn in New York

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Goals are only part of the equation. Grabner has scored 35 points twice in his career. He adds nothing in the way of contributing anything to the offense of his line mates. Vesey playing on a line with grinders takes away from his game more than Grabner's. Fast or Desharnais can find a wide open guy going right by the defense, thats Grabner's whole offensive game. Fast and Desharnais are not going to contribute to a traditional offensive approach in the same way that top 9 players will. Part of this is about the future, as well. All things being equal or close to it, ties goes to the guy who's 24 on an ELC and you hope is a solidified top 9 player in a year or two. We can agree to disagree though, no problem with that.

Who cares about what number line he's on? I bet both bottom 6 lines get almost the same 5v5 usage.

I also would expect Jimmy to get PP2 time this season, maybe some PK time too.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think its less about lines "1-4" and more about finding combinations that work.

KZB has more or less torn it up while together and Vesey-DD-Carey looked very good in their only showing. I know that its the smallest of sample sizes but it would really behoove the team to give them a longer look to see if anything is there.

AV runs a pretty even bench in terms of ice time, I'm sure Vesey will get his minutes.


Now the bottom pair D.... that is an issue and it will turn into a bigger one when AV pins Staal's mistakes on ADA and throws Holden back into the mix.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Who cares about what number line he's on? I bet both bottom 6 lines get almost the same 5v5 usage.

I also would expect Jimmy to get PP2 time this season, maybe some PK time too.

Where's his spot on either PP? I wouldn't even expect him to be next guy into the PP rotation. If they use the 4F, 1D set up, I think he's behind Hayes and Miller for PP time. And then, I'd also assume that the next guy they might add to the PP is another defensemen, whoever doesn't get PP2 time from the McDonagh, Skjei, DeAngelo group of players. I also doubt he's on the PK. He didn't play any PK last season, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Avery16]

Finally a proposed trade with moving parts.

I still do not see Nash being moved.

I had Stastny on the list of potential deadline targets at the deadline a few weeks back. He is a free agent to be. I dont like the makeup of the Blues. But now Fabbri is out. And as you mentioned Steen and Berglund are banged up. This can go wrong fast for them.

What I would do is not what I expect Gorton could do. Two different conversations.

 

[nyr2k2]

The lines will be fluid. I wouldn't get too worked up about anything. Chances are the lines we start the first game with will be different by the end of the game.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Where's his spot on either PP? I wouldn't even expect him to be next guy into the PP rotation. If they use the 4F, 1D set up, I think he's behind Hayes and Miller for PP time. And then, I'd also assume that the next guy they might add to the PP is another defensemen, whoever doesn't get PP2 time from the McDonagh, Skjei, DeAngelo group of players. I also doubt he's on the PK. He didn't play any PK last season, but maybe I'm wrong.

In place of Buchnevich just to piss you off.

 

[Machinehead]

The lines will be fluid. I wouldn't get too worked up about anything. Chances are the lines we start the first game with will be different by the end of the game.

The lines are fluid until Buchnevich ends up on the 4th and then we settle in.

 

[Fitzy]

I don't see AV lasting the season.
Ruff is here for a reason IMO.

He's here to be the assistant coach. NHL coaches get demoted all the time.

 

[nyr2k2]

The lines are fluid until Buchnevich ends up on the 4th and then we settle in.

I honestly can't wait for that.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Did I really just read that we should get rid of Smith already?

Not just that, we should retain 50% because that will increase his value. Bernmeister wants to retain 2m+ for 4 years

 

[NYR713]

Skjei and Tony should be a pair. They looked like PB&J when they played that preseason game together. Smith and Staal/Holden as the "veteran defensive shut down" pairing that I know AV loves.

 

[Mikos87]

I think the Rangers will be goalie shopping by Mid-November. Did not like what I saw from Pavs.

Keep an eye on Hammond or Hutton if Pavs doesn't fare well.

 

[eco's bones]

The lines will be fluid. I wouldn't get too worked up about anything. Chances are the lines we start the first game with will be different by the end of the game.

Exactly. People get swept away with this shit. Lines are always being changed. Some things will work and then they won't work. One thing that will kind of have to work up for us is Chytil or Desjardins. If either one of them puts up decent offense we'll be okay.

 

[eco's bones]

The lines are fluid until Buchnevich ends up on the 4th and then we settle in.

IMO--Buchnevich is way more NHL ready this year than last.

 

[Machinehead]

IMO--Buchnevich is way more NHL ready this year than last.

Doesn't matter. AV has already decided what he's decided.

 

[Fugazy]

IMO--Buchnevich is way more NHL ready this year than last.

Agreed. Physically and mentally.

 

[Tawnos]

I feel like several of the forwards got sent down to see who has a Hagelin/Mitchell circa-2011 time down there while Chytil gets his 9 games with the big club.

 

[RGY]

I see Lettieri getting time with the big club this season. Graves/Pionk too so long as Holden is gone and Kampfer clears waivers.

 

[NYR]

He's here to be the assistant coach. NHL coaches get demoted all the time.

How's this for a conspiracy theory.

Maybe GMJG only hung onto AV after his unforgivable failures so he could trade away Stepan/Rannta while already having a scapegoat in place just in case things fail?

No assistant coach ever seems to work out under AV.

#TheArtOfWar #UpperManagement

 

[ZiGOODejad]

pretty excited to see a Chytil Nash Zucc line in the regular season

 

[I Eat Crow]

I think the Rangers will be goalie shopping by Mid-November. Did not like what I saw from Pavs.

Keep an eye on Hammond or Hutton if Pavs doesn't fare well.

We'll see.

I thought he looked fine outside of that f*** up in OT against Philly.

 

[Machinehead]

pretty excited to see a Chytil Nash Zucc line in the regular season

Good fit on paper.

Zucc drives play and Chytil looks like Zucc Jr. Should help Nash fill holes in his game.

Nash provides them with an elite finisher at even strength.

 

[BBKers]

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2017-2018 (46)

NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (23)

[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status|Team 2017 |Drafted/Acquired |Age 2017

1| F | J.T. Miller |$2.750.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011) |24

2| F | Kevin Hayes |$2,600,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Chicago (2010)- signed w/NYR as UFA |25

3| D | Brady Skjei (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #28 NYR (2012) |23

4| F | Jimmy Vesey (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #66 Nashville (2012)- signed w/NYR as UFA |24

5| F | Rick Nash (NMC) |$7,800,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 overall Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) - acquired through trade|33

6| D | Nick Holden |$1,650,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |30

7| F | Michael Grabner |$1,600,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #14 Vancover Canucks (2006) - signed w/NYR as UFA |30

8| F | Ondrej Pavelec |$1,300,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #41 Atlanta Flames (2009) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29

9| F | David Desharnais |$1,000,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |31

10|F |Paul Carey |$650,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R5 #135 Colorado (2007) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29

11|D |Steve Kampfer |$650,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R4 #93 (2007) Anaheim - acquired through trade |29

12| D | Ryan McDonagh |$4,700,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007) - acquired unsigned through trade|28

13| F | Mats Zuccarello (NTC) |$4,500,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |30

14| F | Pavel Buchnevich (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #75 NYR (2013) |22

15| D | Anthony DeAngelo (ELC)|$863,333* |RFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 Tampa Bay (2014) |22

16| F | Chris Kreider |$4,625,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |26

17| F | Jesper Fast(h) LTIR |$1,850.000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #157 NYR (2010) |26

18|F |Filip Chytil (ELC-S) |$925,000* |RFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL l |R1 #21 NYR (2017) |18

19| G | Henrik Lundqvist (NMC)|$8,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000) |35

20| D | Kevin Shattenkirk (NTC)|$6,650,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #14 Colorado Avalanche (2007) - signed w/NYR as UFA|28

21| D | Marc Staal (NMC => NTC)|$5,750,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 NYR (2005) |30

22| D | Brendan Smith (NTC) |$4,350,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #27 Detroit Red Wings (2007) - acquired through trade|28

23| F | Mika Zibanejad |$5,325,000 |UFA 2022 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #6 Ottawa Senators (2011) - acquired through trade |24[/table]



TOTALS

SALARY CAP: $75,000,000

BUYOUTS (Dan Girardi): $2,611,111

SALARY HIT: $70,838,333

SALARY HIT WITH BUYOUT:$73,449,444

CAP SPACE: $1,550,556

LTIR: Jesper Fast (until November?)

13 FWD - 8 D - 2 G

AVERAGE AGE ~ 27.1 years



PTO - Camp Tryouts

[table="head;width=4200]1|F | Andrew Desjardins |$0 |UFA 2017 |Chicago Blackhawks/NHL |Undrafted - still skating w/NYR on a PTO |31[/table]



CONTRACTED 2017/2018 BUT LIKELY ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (23)

[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status |Team 2017 |Drafted |Age 2017

24|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #65 NYR (2013) |23

25|F |Adam Chapie (ELC) |$800.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26

26|F |Cristoval Nieves(ELC) |$755.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |23

27|F |Steven Fogarty (ELC) inj. |$750.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #72 NYR (2011) |24

28|F |Malte Strömwall (ELC) |$742.500* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #198 Calgary (started w NYR) |24

29|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$656,667* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #110 NYR (2013) |22

30|F |Daniel Catenacci |$650,000 |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #77 Buffalo (2011)- acquired through trade |23

31|D |John Gilmour (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #198 Calgary (2012) - signed w/NYR as UFA|24

32| F| Matt Puempel |$725.000 |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #24 Ottawa (2011) - waiver claim 2016 |24

33|F |Cole Schneider |$650,000 |UFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |27

34|F |Vinni Lettieri (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22

35|D |Neil Pionk (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22

36|G|Chris Nell (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |23

37| D| Alexei Bereglazov (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted (started w NYR) |23

38|F |Robin Kovacs (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #62 NYR (2015) |21

39|G|Brandon Halverson (ELC)|$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2014) |21

40|D |Vince Pedrie (ELC) |$767,500* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22

41|F |Ryan Gropp (ELC) |$839.166* |RFA 2020 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #41 NYR (2015) |21

42|G |Alexander Georgiev(ELC)|$792,500* |RFA 2020 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |21

43|D |Sean Day (ELC-S) |$775,833* |RFA 2020 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #81 NYR (2016) |19

44|F |Dawson Leedahl (ELC)|$749,167* |RFA 2020 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |21

45|F |Gabriel Fontaine (ELC)|$736,667* |RFA 2020 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R6 #171 NYR (2016) |20

46|D |Sergey Zborovskiy (ELC)|$734,166* |RFA 2020 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #79 NYR (2015) |20

(47)| F | Lias Andersson (ELC-S)|$925,000* |UFA 2020 |loaned to Frolunda/SHL |R1 #7 NYR (2017) |19

(48)|F |Timothy Gettinger (ELC-S)|$736,667* |RFA 2020 |Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/OHL|R5 #141 NYR (2016) |19

(49)|F |Henrik Samuelsson @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #27 Arizona Coyotes (2012) |23

(50)|F |Scott Kosmachuk @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #70 Winnipeg Jets (2012) |23

(51)|F | Dan DeSalvo@ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |25

(52)|D | Brenden Kotyk@ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |26

(53)|F |Joe Whitney@ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |29

(54)|F |Eric Selleck @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |30[/table]



* - has additional bonus money in contract

ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract

NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract

NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

@ - signed to an AHL deal with Hartford Wolfpack



PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (12)

[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team 2017| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted

1|G |Igor Shestyorkin |HC SKA /KHL |6' 1"| 190 | Russia |L|December 30, 1995 |R4 #118 NYR (2014)

2|F |Patrik Virta |TPS/Liiga Finland |5' 9" | 180 | Finland |R|March 6, 1996 |R7 #207 NYR (2017)

3|D |Tyler Nanne |Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA |6' 0" | 180 | USA |R|March 17, 1996 |R5 #142 NYR (2014)

4|F |Daniel Bernhardt |BIK Karlskoga/Allsvenskan |6' 3" | 190 | Sweden |L|April 11, 1996 |R4 #119 NYR (2015)

5|D |Brandon Crawley |London Knights/OHL |6' 2" | 205 | USA |L|February 2, 1997 |R4 #123 NYR (2017)

6|F |Dominik Lakatos |Bili Tygri Liberec/Czech Extraliga|6' 0"| 180 |Czech Republic |L|April 8, 1997 |R6 #157 NYR (2017)

7|G |Adam Huska |UConn Huskies/NCAA |6' 4" | 205 | Slovakia |L|May 12, 1997 |R7 #184 NYR (2015)

8|F |Ty Ronning |Vancouver Giants/WHL |5' 9" | 170 | Canada |R|October 20, 1997 |R7 #201 NYR (2016)

9|G |Tyler Wall |UMass Lowell River Hawks/NCAA |6' 3" | 215 | Canada |R|January 14, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2016)

10|D |Tarmo Reunanen | HC TPS/Liiga |6' 0" | 181 | Finland |L|March 1, 1998 |R4 #98 NYR (2016)

11|F |Morgan Barron |Cornell/NCAA |6' 3" | 210 | Canada |R|December 02, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2017)

12|D |Calle Själin |Leksands IF/Allsvenskan |6' 1" | 179 | Sweden |L|September 2, 1999 |R5 #145 NYR (2017)

(13)|F |Carl Klingberg |EV Zug/NLA - rights retained |6' 3" | 212 | Sweden |R|January 28, 1991 |R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)

(14)|F |Niklas Jensen |Jokerit/KHL - rights retained |6' 3" | 216 | Denmark |R|March 6, 1993 |R1 #29 Vancouver (2011)[/table]



2018 DRAFT PICKS (6)

• 1st round NYR
  
• 2nd round NYR
  
• 3rd round NYR
  
• 4th round NYR
  
• 5th round NYR
  
• 6th round NYR
  

• We gained a 2nd round pick from Ottawa when we traded Derrick Brassard
  
• We then lost Ottawas 2nd round pick to Detroit in the trade for Brendan Smith
  
• We then also lost our 7th round pick to Ottawa in the trade for Mika Zibanejad

2019 DRAFT PICKS (7)

• 1st round NYR
  
• 2nd round NYR
  
• 3rd round NYR
  
• 4th round NYR
  
• 5th round NYR
  
• 6th round NYR
  
• 7th round NYR
  

2020 DRAFT PICKS (7)

• 1st round NYR
  
• 2nd round NYR
  
• 3rd round NYR
  
• 4th round NYR
  
• 5th round NYR
  
• 6th round NYR
  
• 7th round NYR
  

 

[Avery16]

Those lines do look exciting

 

[Mikos87]

Vesey is on the 4th because of the Chemistry Grabner-Hayes-Miller had... they produced a lot of offense for the team last year, and will take advantage of the mis-matches again. With Chytiljuice, I think having him with the skill out there is a good thing, just hope that Buch stops feeding him the suicide passes. I counted 2 so far, but they look like they are developing chemistry. Top line.. if Zibby hustles... and I'd expect Zucc to get on his case if he doesn't, then that's a legitimate top line. 4th is questionable. Desharnais and Vesey would do better higher in the line up, but they may take advantage of mis-matches... question is... which line is going shut teams down?

Or will they keep rolling and hope that speed and puck movement wins out? I'm not sure I see a playoff team if they can't match up defensively. If you look at the Metro, a bunch of teams changed their d-zone coverage, it's going to be tough to score, and you can't bank on power plays.