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Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

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Miller1983 said:
This NEEDS to happen. He would be a major improvement. I would think a mid level prospect and a 2nd but he will def get major interest might cost a 1st if we resign him. But it would be worth it IMO
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Literally any time you can have 15 mil+ between two dmen who wont play PP you do it in a heartbeat.

The turn on Lindy is even more tilting than the turn on Shesty.
 
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NYR Viper said:
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It fits with a spare forward only and ~$3m in cap space. Yes, I assumed modest raises for Quick and Kakko and signed a 4th line center for $1.5m although maybe one of the younger players can fill that hole. Or maybe they don't sign Pitlick and give Edstrom a shot on the 4th line. Either way, it fits.

Also as a side note, the long term deals for high end players were the norm prior to COVID when the salary cap was increasing every year. I get the sense that we will see similar things this off-season with the cap expected to grow considerably over the next 4+ years as the league has grown and the players have paid the owners back. a 7 year deal @ $7m for a top-4 27 year old d-man is going to look better and better as we move along.
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Let's get crazy and include Chytil for Lindholm if he will sign for 6.5-7 mill per year. He can then play RW with Zibs and Kreider or the Rangers could stretch the lineup out and roll him as a 3C which could be a match up nightmare. The Rangers would still need a player who can play 3C but its possible Pinto could be available and Kappo could be great trade bait.

The other short term benefit is if we traded Lindgren and Chytil for Lindholm and Hanifin at 50% the Rangers would have extra cap space to improve RW for this year. Wont happen but I am sure but imagine a Tarasenko, Vatrano etc along with Hanifin and Lindholm.....cup favorites.
 
Avery16 said:
The move on defense is next season, assuming we can't keep Gus. For now, move on from Jones and upgrade our 7D.

Take Lindgren out and you screw up our top pair. Fox always struggles without Lindgren. How many people thought Leetch should have a better partner than Beuk in the 90s? Not Leetch. Not Richter.

Hard to tell if those goals last night were more on Shesty or on our D coverage. What will Housley do to adjust?
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You are telling me that Fox a Norris winning dman can only play with Lindgren?

The love affair with this guy is just weird at this point.
 
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throwing big money at Hanifin would just be making the Trouba mistake all over again. except without the leadership qualities and Big Hitz.

he would be an upgrade on Lindgren for this year though but i'm not giving up Kakko for him. it's going to be a big time sellers market for him too.
 
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zlev said:
throwing big money at Hanifin would just be making the Trouba mistake all over again. except without the leadership qualities and Big Hitz.

he would be an upgrade on Lindgren for this year though but i'm not giving up Kakko for him. it's going to be a big time sellers market for him too.
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Call me crazy but I'd sign Trouba tomorrow at age 27 for 7 years @ $7m per season. $7m this off-season isn't the same as $8m when Trouba signed.
 
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people here say this all the time but Miller would be a perfect partner for Fox. it's not like Miller-Trouba has been any good at all this year so what is there to lose? we have what we need right in front of us but the coach wont do it. three coaches in a row can't tell that Miller-Trouba is bad.
 
RangersFan1994 said:
Need more than just Lafy. I wish Kreider had a mean streak. 1 player in the top 6 that does this, is not enough. The ones with good depth have a balance of that. Even a Sam Bennett type would ignite some life in this team. Remember when Avery became a Ranger, someone like that.
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True, need more than Laffy. Troch does it too, but really could use some more. Othmann will likely settle in in the top 6, but I doubt we see that before Jan, if then. Eventually one of Cuylee, Berard or Sykora will probably make top six as well.
I remember Kreider just shithammering people as a rookie and getting unwarranted majors left and right, just for being stronger than the players he hit. The officials neutered him.
 
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Avery16 said:
You're crazy.
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I'm confused as to why. He's a top-4 d-man who puts up 30-35 points a year and plays a very physical style (Trouba). Hanifan is a smooth skating, rangy d-man who is easily a top-4 guy, maybe top-pairing. $7m in cap dollars is not that much money for a prime position on the team.
 
NYR Viper said:
I'm confused as to why. He's a top-4 d-man who puts up 30-35 points a year and plays a very physical style (Trouba). Hanifan is a smooth skating, rangy d-man who is easily a top-4 guy, maybe top-pairing. $7m in cap dollars is not that much money for a prime position on the team.
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I misread "tomorrow at age 27", but even though I like Trouba I don't think his play merits that contract. I would hope at the very least you wouldn't still give him a NMC.
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
I laugh at how some people point to grit in a game where the defense blows and the goalie blows even more.

Yeah smashing some faces would have changed the above.
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Doesn't matter now but it does in the playoffs when you are getting your dicks kicked in and the other team is physically destroying you
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
I laugh at how some people point to grit in a game where the defense blows and the goalie blows even more.

Yeah smashing some faces would have changed the above.
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Being a stiffer presence often avoids defensive breakdowns later in the play and subsequent shitty goaltending.

An average NHLer level of compete from Zibanejad keeps the puck in the zone last night and avoids Troubas stupid pinch, the rush down the ice, Gus terrible 2 on 1 defense, and a subsequent PPG.

You know this.
 
effen said:
Being a stiffer presence often avoids defensive breakdowns later in the play and subsequent shitty goaltending.

An average NHLer level of compete from Zibanejad keeps the puck in the zone last night and avoids Troubas stupid pinch, the rush down the ice, Gus terrible 2 on 1 defense, and a subsequent PPG.

You know this.
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This was in response to someone who was clearly talking about the response to Lindgren getting smoked.

Also Trouba’s stupid pinch was on him.
 
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